Meanwhile in Israel

[Sweep]

57 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

According to Hamas. A terrorist organisation. 

True, no doubt they do inflate and report false numbers, as I'm sure the other side do.

Whilst I don't particularly trust anything Israel says, I certainly wouldn't trust anything reported by Hamas

[Sweep]

9 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Let them delude themselves all they want. Everyone really knows why this is has happened right now.

Blinkens blundering Bidenites had been at this since May 2024 and got nowhere. The Don fires out a warning about all hell breaking loose and suddenly Hamas will negotiate in good faith.

The world will remember that this ended (maybe temporarily) because of Trumps threat. It won't be remembered as a sleepwalkers legacy.

Already talk of the ceasefire collapsing before it's taken effect, as Netanyahu is delaying the vote to approve it, as it could lead to the collapse of his Government. I presume that if the ceasefire is successful then it's all down to Trumpton, but it if's not then it's nothing to do with Trump at all, and it's all Bidens fault 🙂

[Guest]

1 hour ago, BobyBrno said:

Well yes. No one on here is defending Israel. I am discrediting a terrorist organisation. Are you defending them or even giving credence to their claims?

I mean if we take the view that both are massively economical with the truth and that believing one over the other is a nonsense then we can probably start from there. 

Israel have refused to comment about the reports of rocket attacks.

[BobyBrno]

13 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

I mean if we take the view that both are massively economical with the truth and that believing one over the other is a nonsense then we can probably start from there. 

Israel have refused to comment about the reports of rocket attacks.

Israel always refuse to comment because incidents like this can take days or even weeks to confirm. It’s remarkable how Hamas can determine numbers so quickly. (They never report Hamas numbers)

It’s remarkable, or maybe not, how people can jump on a terrorist organisations propaganda as quickly. 

[London Wanderer]

3 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

According to Hamas. A terrorist organisation. 

🙄
 

[London Wanderer]

There are many other sources & studies that verify the fact that thousands of women & kids have been killed.

Trying to dispute it because Hamas are a terrorist organisation bonkers. Nothing more than deflection. 

 Palestine isn’t a country where independent organisations & NGOs can’t operate. The evidence is in plain sight.

https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/more-women-and-children-killed-gaza-israeli-military-any-other-recent-conflict

 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

Israel always refuse to comment because incidents like this can take days or even weeks to confirm. It’s remarkable how Hamas can determine numbers so quickly. (They never report Hamas numbers)

It’s remarkable, or maybe not, how people can jump on a terrorist organisations propaganda as quickly. 

I don’t think it takes Israel days or weeks to confirm if they fired rockets or not. 

[deeane Koontz]

7 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

According to Hamas. A terrorist organisation. 

I'm sure Israel, the ones who have been bombing schools and refugee camps are just as trustworthy

[Casino]

7 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

No one on here is defending Israel. 

nonsense

anything goes for a few on here

because theres some bad arabs, everybody is fair game

its pathetic

[wanderer1984]

2 hours ago, Casino said:

nonsense

anything goes for a few on here

because theres some bad arabs, everybody is fair game

its pathetic

Go on then ...  What you doing to help those in need that the anything goes crew aren't? 

[Zico]

9 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

Well yes. No one on here is defending Israel. I am discrediting a terrorist organisation. Are you defending them or even giving credence to their claims?

Yes they are

You included 

"They must be allowed to defend themselves" 

"Collateral damage"

"Human shields"

Etc

[BobyBrno]

9 minutes ago, Zico said:

Yes they are

You included 

"They must be allowed to defend themselves" 

"Collateral damage"

"Human shields"

Etc

By ‘here’ I was talking about this incident. It’s just one of many where Hamas are the source of the information. The ceasefire hasn’t been implemented yet so both sides are still at war. 

[BobyBrno]

2 hours ago, deeane Koontz said:

I'm sure Israel, the ones who have been bombing schools and refugee camps are just as trustworthy

Well here is their latest update on the ongoing war. It’s up to you whether you believe the Israelis or the terrorists. 
 

 

[Casino]

25 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

By ‘here’ I was talking about this incident. It’s just one of many where Hamas are the source of the information. The ceasefire hasn’t been implemented yet so both sides are still at war. 

We wont be hearing from anybody independent

Its what happens when you kill or ban journos

[BobyBrno]

Well here is a ‘journalist’ that was killed. Having said that, it’s from an Israeli source so who knows. Fog of war and all that.

 

[Not in Crawley]

Christ, you follow any old crap that fits your narrative.

Please follow that odd link BB has posted.

Bless your old cottons 😄

[bolty58]

15 hours ago, Sweep said:

Already talk of the ceasefire collapsing before it's taken effect, as Netanyahu is delaying the vote to approve it, as it could lead to the collapse of his Government. I presume that if the ceasefire is successful then it's all down to the Trumpinator, but it if's not then it's nothing to do with Trump at all, and it's all Bidens fault 🙂

Yes, all perfectly true.

[bolty58]

9 hours ago, deeane Koontz said:

I'm sure Israel, the ones who have been bombing schools and refugee camps are at least as trustworthy as the scumbags hiding behind women, children and the infirm.

Finished off for you free of charge pal.

[bolty58]

9 hours ago, Casino said:

nonsense

anything goes for a few on here

because theres some bad arabs, everybody is fair game

its pathetic

How appropriate. Balance.

I think your anti semitic position is pathetic.

I wonder how long it will take your side (don't bother denying it) to forget the horror and destruction they brought upon themselves and have another go? Ten years? Twenty?

[bolty58]

6 hours ago, Zico said:

Yes they are

You included 

"They must be allowed to defend themselves" 

"Collateral damage"

"Human shields"

Etc

And me. Don't leave me out. 100% on the side of Israel against murderous savages.

[bolty58]

5 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

Well here is a ‘journalist’ that was killed. Having said that, it’s from an Israeli source so who knows. Fog of war and all that.

 

Extra virgins for this mon if was holding down two jobs.

[BobyBrno]

54 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Christ, you follow any old crap that fits your narrative.

Please follow that odd link BB has posted.

Bless your old cottons 😄

As you can clearly see, I don’t follow them. 👍

[London Wanderer]

10 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

Well here is their latest update on the ongoing war. It’s up to you whether you believe the Israelis or the terrorists. 
 

 

Describing this conflict as Israel vs the terrorists is incredibly naive.

It’s far more complex than that & the statement ignores the extremism on both sides. 
 

Cherry picking at its finest.

We know Hamas have lied. As have Israel. We also know that countless innocent aid workers & journalists have been killed & deliberately targeted. 

 

[Casino]

5 hours ago, bolty58 said:

How appropriate. Balance.

I think your anti semitic position is pathetic.

I wonder how long it will take your side (don't bother denying it) to forget the horror and destruction they brought upon themselves and have another go? Ten years? Twenty?

They, ffs

Babies arent 'they'

And if the israeli terrorists had killed my kids, Id not rest til I had my revenge

Oh, as for ani semitic, my only issue with Jews is they avoided double chemistry in 1978

 

[BobyBrno]

2 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

Describing this conflict as Israel vs the terrorists is incredibly naive.

It’s far more complex than that & the statement ignores the extremism on both sides. 
 

Cherry picking at its finest.

We know Hamas have lied. As have Israel. We also know that countless innocent aid workers & journalists have been killed & deliberately targeted. 

 

Thank you for explaining that to me. To be fair, I thought it was complex in 1973 but it’s obviously gone much more complex for someone like me.