Meanwhile in Israel

[gonzo]

11 hours ago, royal white said:

Hardly rocket science is it.

Kind of is, really.

[London Wanderer]

6 hours ago, Jol_BWFC said:

 

Israelis playing billy big bollocks and getting a slapping by a bigger/better firm. They should stick to targeting women and kids, like in Gaza.

Tel Aviv fans are notorious. 
 

Their lovely fans were chanting ‘no schools in Gaza because there are no children left’ & roaming the streets taunting anyone who looked like an Arab. 
 

I don’t think anyone can deny they didn’t deserve a doing. Clearly the lads driving the car were equally extremist in their views though. And no doubt innocent people just wanting to watch their team would have been caught up. 

[gonzo]

Fighting over football and sectarianism.

It'll never catch on.

[deeane Koontz]

More fuss over this than thousands of kids getting blown to pieces . Strange world

Edited November 9 by deeane Koontz

[London Wanderer]

1 minute ago, deeane Koontz said:

More fuss over this than thousands of kids getting blown to pieces . Strange world

They have to kill the kids remember, in order to get to Hamas.

A necessary evil 

Apparently 

[bolty58]

1 minute ago, deeane Koontz said:

More fuss over this than terrorist scumbags hiding behind kids and getting them blown to pieces . Strange world

 

[jayjayoghani]

Not often governments defend fans involved in football violence either. Can't imagine a UK govt doing it! 

[RoadRunnerFan]

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

Fighting over football and sectarianism.

It'll never catch on.

Maccabi were chanting 'Hello hello we are the Benny Boys" itk

Edited November 9 by RoadRunnerFan

[BobyBrno]

The condemnation by governments is about more than football violence. The same condemnation that was given to the ‘far right’ riots after the Southport stabbings.

[London Wanderer]

13 hours ago, wanderer1984 said:

Wrong.

What's a phobia of something?

You're obsessing over the word itself rather than its definition and examples. Islamophobia and Antisemitism both involved fear of the other, prejudice and hatred. Both exist. It's odd you choose to recognise one, but discredit the other and take the piss out of raising awareness.  

Amsterdam last night being an example of the hatred from both sides. London has seen a huge increase in hatred directed towards Jews. The Southport riots also showed how prevalent Islamophobia is. It's everywhere at the moment on both sides. 

13 hours ago, wanderer1984 said:

Answer it then ... I know why you can't.

Do you? Why can't I? 
 

My point was it was such a simplistic post, that lacked any understanding of the wider conflict or the reality of daily life in Gaza. There is widespread evidence of the IDF attacking residential areas, with no warnings, in designated safe areas. Journalists and aid workers have been targeted whilst doing their job. There's no denying that innocent people following guidance to evacuate or go to shelters have been massacred on mass. 

Yet your response is, 'they'd be crazy to take their kids there' or 'why can't everyone else take them in'.

It's one of those posts where you wonder how it's even possible to respond, because the majority of it makes no sense. I'll discuss it with you mate, but might be best to focus on one thing at a time. 

[deeane Koontz]

Looks like the evil cunts have just bombed a home and killed 13 kids.

[deeane Koontz]

Let's see what Lammy has to say about this 🤔 

 

[bolty58]

22 minutes ago, deeane Koontz said:

Looks like the evil cunts have just bombed a home and killed 13 kids.

Some of their missiles got past the iron dome?

[deeane Koontz]

3 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Some of their missiles got past the iron dome?

It's the folk who are currently committing genocide. 

The ones who have slaughtered thousands of kids. Bombing schools, hospitals and shelters for displaced people,  Those ones.

[bolty58]

8 hours ago, deeane Koontz said:

It's the folk who are currently committing genocide. 

The ones who have slaughtered thousands of kids. Bombing schools, hospitals and shelters for displaced people,  Those ones.

Schools, hospitals and shelters where the terrorists you appear to support are hiding behind displaced people.

Criticise the hiders not the seekers.

I see Qatar is losing patience with them now. Looks like they will lose their hiding place there soon.

[wanderer1984]

On 09/11/2024 at 11:35, London Wanderer said:

You're obsessing over the word itself rather than its definition and examples. Islamophobia and Antisemitism both involved fear of the other, prejudice and hatred. Both exist. It's odd you choose to recognise one, but discredit the other and take the piss out of raising awareness.  

Amsterdam last night being an example of the hatred from both sides. London has seen a huge increase in hatred directed towards Jews. The Southport riots also showed how prevalent Islamophobia is. It's everywhere at the moment on both sides. 

Do you? Why can't I? 
 

My point was it was such a simplistic post, that lacked any understanding of the wider conflict or the reality of daily life in Gaza. There is widespread evidence of the IDF attacking residential areas, with no warnings, in designated safe areas. Journalists and aid workers have been targeted whilst doing their job. There's no denying that innocent people following guidance to evacuate or go to shelters have been massacred on mass. 

Yet your response is, 'they'd be crazy to take their kids there' or 'why can't everyone else take them in'.

It's one of those posts where you wonder how it's even possible to respond, because the majority of it makes no sense. I'll discuss it with you mate, but might be best to focus on one thing at a time. 

You have your views ... I've got mine. We'll never agree on this subject.

I don't need to explain why I hold strong views against Islam ... its pretty obvious if you look at the atrocities around the world and on UK soil which has affected many including a family member.

You crack on defending them.

 

 

 

[London Wanderer]

7 hours ago, wanderer1984 said:

You have your views ... I've got mine. We'll never agree on this subject.

I don't need to explain why I hold strong views against Islam ... its pretty obvious if you look at the atrocities around the world and on UK soil which has affected many including a family member.

You crack on defending them.

 

 

 

Yes I’m defending terrorism by criticising Israel’s response & claiming Islamophobia exists😂😂

Fck me you’re Bolty in disguise sometimes.

Other people on here have been affected by Islamism as well, including myself. Vast majority of folk dying & fighting to resist extreme Islam are Muslims.

 I’d love for an end to extreme Islam & its grip on politics, who wouldn’t? But with 1.9 billion Muslims worldwide, your generalisations just don’t represent reality. 

Edited November 11 by London Wanderer

[wanderer1984]

26 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Yes I’m defending terrorism by criticising Israel’s response & claiming Islamophobia exists😂😂

Fck me you’re Bolty in disguise sometimes.

Other people on here have been affected by Islamism as well, including myself. Vast majority of folk dying & fighting to resist extreme Islam are Muslims.

 I’d love for an end to extreme Islam & its grip on politics, who wouldn’t? But with 1.9 billion Muslims worldwide, your generalisations just don’t represent reality. 

👍🏻

[bolty58]

1 hour ago, wanderer1984 said:

👍🏻

"Bolty in disguise"  I hope you found a better looking mask matey 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

12 hours ago, wanderer1984 said:

You have your views ... I've got mine. We'll never agree on this subject.

I don't need to explain why I hold strong views against Islam ... its pretty obvious if you look at the atrocities around the world and on UK soil which has affected many including a family member.

You crack on defending them.

 

 

 

I watched the first part of a channel 4 documentary last night, about the shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes.

Fascinating, disturbing, frightening etc.

Wouldn't have happened without Islamic extremism.

The next part is about the repercussions. 

Always the authorities and never the actors who are to blame.

Same in this conflict.

Terrorists hole up behind their own, so when they're targeted, innocents also get killed.

It's then used as a media tool as a means of deflection. 

And it apparently works.

No wonder Israel continues on its path- absolutely nothing about the terrorist groups suggests trustworthiness to adhere to a peace deal etc.

[wanderer1984]

24 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I watched the first part of a channel 4 documentary last night, about the shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes.

Fascinating, disturbing, frightening etc.

Wouldn't have happened without Islamic extremism.

The next part is about the repercussions. 

Always the authorities and never the actors who are to blame.

Same in this conflict.

Terrorists hole up behind their own, so when they're targeted, innocents also get killed.

It's then used as a media tool as a means of deflection. 

And it apparently works.

No wonder Israel continues on its path- absolutely nothing about the terrorist groups suggests trustworthiness to adhere to a peace deal etc.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Agree in the most, but there are some who will hate all of them, irrespective of their view.

On the other hand, it is vital that this tag doesn't prevent authorities from doing what is necessary. 

[frank_spencer]

3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Agree in the most, but there are some who will hate all of them, irrespective of their view.

On the other hand, it is vital that this tag doesn't prevent authorities from doing what is necessary. 

In the same way that criticism of the actions of the Israeli government can't be dismissed with cries of antisemitism.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

4 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Agree in the most, but there are some who will hate all of them, irrespective of their view.

To be fair, in that instance it's most likely to just be racism

[Duck Egg]