Is it kicking off big time or is this just everyday stuff they deal with or a bit of both?

 

3 minutes ago, stevieb said:

 classic response 

If you've got one you're winning. 

Same with the Jews by the way. Count how many of them you have. Anything over zero you win. You multi cultural bastard 

I’ve spent lots of time over the last 30 years in Turkey on business, all Muslims, lovely people and good friends… I’m in textile game, our business is Jewish owned, many of our suppliers are Muslim Brits, most of them decent folk. None of them Muslim terrorists. 

Edited October 11, 20232 yr by Mounts Kipper

Just now, Mounts Kipper said:

I’ve spent lots of time over the last 30 years in Turkey on business, all Muslims, lovely people and good friends. 

And the Jews? 😂 

1 hour ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Keep your eye on Serbia/Kosovo

And Azerbaijan/Armenia 

11 minutes ago, royal white said:

So  why would you say “the timing was poor” 🤷🏻‍♂️

Why do you think the timing was poor? It's pretty obvious no? 

But it's all in the context of a wider conflict that has been going on for yonks and both sides always protest when things flare up. The protest organisers made it clear it was against the occupation, the protestors in your video were at that location and were chanting free Palestine whilst waving Palestine flags. I don't think you need to be Sherlock Holmes to see they aren't celebrating Hamas. 

I'm in no denial that a small minority of Muslims in this country have celebrated. But lets not go around labelling every person with a Palestine flag a terrorist. Doesn't really help ease any tensions. 

1 minute ago, kent_white said:

And Azerbaijan/Armenia 

China / Taiwan will be the catalyst 

We've all gotta feel for Zelensky here. He's gone from top billing to being a short arsed beggar no ones arsed about. 

2 minutes ago, stevieb said:

And the Jews? 😂 

See amended post above, I take folk at face value whatever colour or religion. 

2 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Why do you think the timing was poor? It's pretty obvious no? 

But it's all in the context of a wider conflict that has been going on for yonks and both sides always protest when things flare up. The protest organisers made it clear it was against the occupation, the protestors in your video were at that location and were chanting free Palestine whilst waving Palestine flags. I don't think you need to be Sherlock Holmes to see they aren't celebrating Hamas. 

I'm in no denial that a small minority of Muslims in this country have celebrated. But lets not go around labelling every person with a Palestine flag a terrorist. Doesn't really help ease any tensions. 

You’re confusing yourself again. If the video wasn’t after the attacks, like you claimed, then why would the timing be poor? 
 

If you’re taking to the streets hours after an attack on Israel (not Palestine) setting off fireworks, lighting flares, waving flags then I’m taking it as you’re celebrating the attack. You can look at it whatever you way want, that’s your choice. 

9 minutes ago, kent_white said:

And Azerbaijan/Armenia 

And Daubhill/Deane 

2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

See amended post above, I take folk at face value whatever colour or religion. 

OK. 

If you can... Take Saturdays paraglider "invasion" from Hamas as the instigation event for this war. 

Killed 250. Dreadful. 

Do you think Israel using the F16s that we, the UK, use to strategically target people / places we know house the targets we want to kill rathe than flatten everything, but instead Israel then just flatten everything... Whilst giving 24 hours to exit gaza... Whilst bombing that exit route is justifiable? 

I'm no London Wanderer apologist by any stretch of the imagination but this fucking stinks 

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, stevieb said:

OK. 

If you can... Take Saturdays paraglider "invasion" from Hamas as the instigation event for this war. 

Killed 250. Dreadful. 

Do you think Israel using the F16s that we, the UK, use to strategically target people / places we know house the targets we want to kill rathe than flatten everything, but instead Israel then just flatten everything... Whilst giving 24 hours to exit gaza... Whilst bombing that exit route is justifiable? 

I'm no London Wanderer apologist by any stretch of the imagination but this fucking stinks 

The UK doesn't have any F16s.

Just now, Cheese said:

The UK doesn't have any F16s.

I'm not a plane nonce soz.

Substitute f16s for jet fighters that aren't goat shaggers on paragliders. 

Is the lack of condemnation of the same by Israel simply down to the fact they attacked” first “ and weren’t invaded as Ukraine was? 
 

does seem a totally different reaction to essentially the same thing 

7 minutes ago, stevieb said:

OK. 

If you can... Take Saturdays paraglider "invasion" from Hamas as the instigation event for this war. 

Killed 250. Dreadful. 

Do you think Israel using the F16s that we, the UK, use to strategically target people / places we know house the targets we want to kill rathe than flatten everything, but instead Israel then just flatten everything... Whilst giving 24 hours to exit gaza... Whilst bombing that exit route is justifiable? 

I'm no London Wanderer apologist by any stretch of the imagination but this fucking stinks 

 

 

 

Bombing an exit route isn’t justifiable if the Israelis have cleared the route for civilians, whether they have bombed it or not I don’t know, gut feeling is that they wouldn’t do that. I’d like to see neutral proof that they did.

20 minutes ago, royal white said:

If you’re taking to the streets hours after an attack on Israel

Think you need to go back and check your video mate. it's all a bit boring. 

Video filmed on Monday (two days after the Hamas attack on Saturday) strangely enough at the same time a protest was organised against the Israel occupation. 

Can we stop now ? 

Edited October 11, 20232 yr by London Wanderer

3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Bombing an exit route isn’t justifiable if the Israelis have cleared the route for civilians, whether they have bombed it or not I don’t know, gut feeling is that they wouldn’t do that. I’d like to see neutral proof that they did.

If they do manage to exit safely... 

Where do they exit to? 

2 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Think you need to go back and check your video mate. it's all a bit boring. 

Video filmed on Monday. Two days after the Hamas attack on Saturday. Strangely enough at the same time a protest was organised against the Israel occupation. 

Can we stop now ? 

Of course. Just read my earlier post. It’s not difficult, even for you. Toodle pip. X

1 minute ago, stevieb said:

If they do manage to exit safely... 

Where do they exit to? 

Egypt I think. 

2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Egypt I think. 

Yeah and that's where they'll stay. 

3 minutes ago, royal white said:

Of course. Just read my earlier post. It’s not difficult, even for you. Toodle pip. X

🤣Got there in the end eh

Two days = a few hours

 Palestine flag and flares = terrorist barbarians 🙄

 you don’t need to believe everything Mike Graham says. He seems to have taken a break from Israel / Palestine to blame the Luton airport fire on ULEZ 

3 minutes ago, stevieb said:

OK. 

If you can... Take Saturdays paraglider "invasion" from Hamas as the instigation event for this war. 

Killed 250. Dreadful. 

Do you think Israel using the F16s that we, the UK, use to strategically target people / places we know house the targets we want to kill rathe than flatten everything, but instead Israel then just flatten everything... Whilst giving 24 hours to exit gaza... Whilst bombing that exit route is justifiable? 

I'm no London Wanderer apologist by any stretch of the imagination but this fucking stinks 

 

 

 

There comes a point when enough is enough. If Israelis followed a Muslim faith this wouldn't be happening.

London Wanderer is against the Jewish religion taking over a maily Muslim area.  But he's happy for Muslims to come to mainly Christian occupied European countries.

He's a hypocrite, as shown in many other posts.

I feel for the Palestinians but is it them that voted hamas in power?

As previously mentioned ... Palestine have had plenty of opportunity to negotiate how the area is formed but declined.

As for the UK flag waving ... its a bit of both. They came out in force when the first atrocities came to light when hamas started this episode at the music festival. To me it's the only thing they could be celebrating given the timing.

Hope ALL civilians are given entry to safe passage but don't think that part of the world will be happy till the Jewish community in that area is gone.

1 hour ago, MickyD said:

Just had a quick google.

USA’s air power is made up of:

Air Force 5,217 Army 4,409 Navy 2,464 Total 13,247
 

Maths obviously isn’t their strength!

 

https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/largest-air-forces-in-the-world/#:~:text=The world's largest air forces,to the Army and Navy.

I'm pretty sure that'll include all types, not all of them will be used in combat roles so it's slightly misleading but they do still have the biggest numbers.

Unfortunately the ones that are combat types aren't all constantly  mission capable, they're having some big problems with serviceability and have also made a real mess with procurement in certain areas. So many flight hours have gone into many of these jets for decades already and now it seems like they're stretched across so many places they're needed, Europe, ME, Pacific, South Korea not to mention US home defence.

That seems like a lot of pretty serious plates to keep spinning to me! China is the biggest concern, maybe soon they'll start thinking about making compromises in other areas of the globe to ensure they can maintain a big enough deterrent?

Edited October 11, 20232 yr by Marc505

10 hours ago, gonzo said:

Some reckon this is all part of kicking off WW3.

Iran get stuck in and all hell breaks loose.

Then China have a pop at Taiwan.

 

I think that's the direction on travel. 

I speak with people in Taiwan everyday, some of them reckon a Chinese "invasion" will happen within 12 months. And to be honest, some want it, some don't. 

Edited October 12, 20232 yr by Sweep

6 hours ago, Sweep said:

I think that's the direction on travel. 

I speak with people in Taiwan everyday, sine if them reckon a Chinese "invasion" will happen within 12 months. And to be honest, some want it, some don't. 

Why would some folk want to be invaded?

8 hours ago, wanderer1984 said:

There comes a point when enough is enough. If Israelis followed a Muslim faith this wouldn't be happening.

London Wanderer is against the Jewish religion taking over a maily Muslim area.  But he's happy for Muslims to come to mainly Christian occupied European countries.

He's a hypocrite, as shown in many other posts.

I feel for the Palestinians but is it them that voted hamas in power?

As previously mentioned ... Palestine have had plenty of opportunity to negotiate how the area is formed but declined.

As for the UK flag waving ... its a bit of both. They came out in force when the first atrocities came to light when hamas started this episode at the music festival. To me it's the only thing they could be celebrating given the timing.

Hope ALL civilians are given entry to safe passage but don't think that part of the world will be happy till the Jewish community in that area is gone.

Ahhh I see

So we’re being taken over here now are we? Is that how you see our Muslim citizens here? The ones we invited, they’re invaders. 

 A while back you posted a video of Neo Nazi’s speech (a man with swastika tattoos) and openly admitted to agreeing with his points on immigration and British identity.

Now you’re lecturing me on Israel and calling me a hypocrite 🤣🤣

I’ve said more than once that I can see both sides on this. I do understand why innocent Palestinians don’t need to lose any more land. But I also understand the defence mentality of the Israelis. But funnily enough, being disliked isn’t a reason to take more land off people. 
 

It’s an awful conflict that will require both sides to turn the other cheek. Can’t see that happening now and there’s a risk this could all escalate. 
 

Like you, I want peace. We’ve all got a responsibility in the material we share online and misinformation is rife. Especially you’re posting videos of people. I was only commenting on ONE video and Mike Grahams interpretation. The video is taken on Monday at an anti-occupation demonstration that was clearly organised to oppose Israel. Not great timing but it’s always the way when this conflict flares up. Some scum bags did come out on Saturday. You say in force, does anyone actually know the number and what percentage of our Muslim community they represent? 
 

As you say, it’s a bit of both. The video I commented on was protestors. 

Edited October 12, 20232 yr by London Wanderer

11 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Why would some folk want to be invaded?

They want to be under Chinese rule. The same as some Ukrainians want to be under Russian rule