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Meanwhile in Israel

Is it kicking off big time or is this just everyday stuff they deal with or a bit of both?

 

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6 hours ago, Zico said:

let's say it is real

6 innocents killed to get 1 terrorist 

is that acceptable to those supporting and backing Isreal to victory?

C'est la guerre.

6 hours ago, gonzo said:

I pretty much get all my news from Sky News and occasionally BBC.

Am I allowed to believe what they report?

You can believe absolutely anything you want matey - as can I.

9 hours ago, royal white said:

 

The archived link is there for you to see 👍

I’ve only mentioned the telegram* post in the last hour, it’s you and casino who have been mentioning it throughout the day but now you don’t want to bore everyone. Weird that 🤷🏻

Ive not seen any evidence that he was in a terror cell, saying that ive not seen any evidence of any Hamas operator being killed actually being part of Hamas. Maybe it’s all innocent people that have been killed 🙄

 

 

Eiten Fischberger's archive post looks as dodgy as that telegram screenshot 😂 Anyone can upload to these archive sites. It's proof of nothing. But yes - let's not bore everyone by arguing like 4 year olds for days on end about whether it is legit or not 🙂 You think he led a terror cell, I think the evidence is unconvincing, agree to disagree? 

Bit of an overreaction mate. Israel have killed plenty of legitimate Hamas fighters.

I think it looks more likely this is a case of them deliberately targeting a journalist they didn't like. It wouldn't be the first time. 

Bit concerned to realise there's no definitive proof I'm not in Hamas.

Or that Bolty's not, come to think of it.

18 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Eiten Fischberger's archive post looks as dodgy as that telegram screenshot 😂 Anyone can upload to these archive sites. It's proof of nothing. But yes - let's not bore everyone by arguing like 4 year olds for days on end about whether it is legit or not 🙂 You think he led a terror cell, I think the evidence is unconvincing, agree to disagree? 

Bit of an overreaction mate. Israel have killed plenty of legitimate Hamas fighters.

I think it looks more likely this is a case of them deliberately targeting a journalist they didn't like. It wouldn't be the first time. 

Weird, you and @Casino both keep mentioning telegram and asking if @Boby Brnohas it now you don’t want to talk about it. Here’s another link for you.

 

Ive  not said I think he leads a terror cell. if you’re working for HAMAS it’s likely you will end up dead. 

14 minutes ago, royal white said:

Weird, you and @Casino both keep mentioning telegram and asking if @Boby Brnohas it now you don’t want to talk about it. Here’s another link for you.

 

Ive  not said I think he leads a terror cell. if you’re working for HAMAS it’s likely you will end up dead. 

What’s with all these Twitter links? It proves nothing for either sides argument. Very lovely ‘case study’ photo though 👌

“The IDF said that Anas Al-Sharif led a terror cell directing rocket fire at Israeli civilians and soldiers”

 If you also don’t think he’s leading a terror cell, then I think we can both agree the evidence is pretty weak.

 Hamas were the governing dictatorship in Gaza. Doctors & nurses work under their healthcare system. As did many other public services and media outlets. There are plenty of independent agencies & groups in Gaza , but it’s very difficult not to have had some level of involvement with Hamas.

Thats some death list if we’re expecting every person who’s ever been involved with them to be ‘likely to end up dead’. 
 

A very odd justification for his death. And the 4 other innocent journalists. 
 

I think that they didn’t like what he was saying 👍 

 

13 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

What’s with all these Twitter links? It proves nothing for either sides argument. Very lovely ‘case study’ photo though 👌

“The IDF said that Anas Al-Sharif led a terror cell directing rocket fire at Israeli civilians and soldiers”

 If you also don’t think he’s leading a terror cell, then I think we can both agree the evidence is pretty weak.

 Hamas were the governing dictatorship in Gaza. Doctors & nurses work under their healthcare system. As did many other public services and media outlets. There are plenty of independent agencies & groups in Gaza , but it’s very difficult not to have had some level of involvement with Hamas.

Thats some death list if we’re expecting every person who’s ever been involved with them to be ‘likely to end up dead’. 
 

A very odd justification for his death. And the 4 other innocent journalists. 
 

I think that they didn’t like what he was saying 👍 

 


Again you struggle with simple reading. How has “anyone working for HAMAS is likely to end up dead” ended up being “every person who’s been involved  with them” stop making shit up. 

You might see it as an odd jusifiication but it’s pretty much the truth.

You were quick to say the telegram post is fake but have shown nothing to back up Your claim. BB asked and now I’ll ask. Why is it fake? 

1 hour ago, royal white said:

Weird, you and @Casino both keep mentioning telegram and asking if @Boby Brnohas it now you don’t want to talk about it. Here’s another link for you.

 

Ive  not said I think he leads a terror cell. if you’re working for HAMAS it’s likely you will end up dead. 

Aye which is fair enough 

Looking at the thread he has certainly gone to great lengths to show it's legit 

Doesn't justify killing the other 6 

Unless he was using them as a human shield of course 

Same old story, using Hamas as an excuse to lay destruction on gaza, kill as many Palestinians et al as they can and take it for themselves

47 minutes ago, Zico said:

 

Same old story, using Hamas as an excuse to lay destruction on gaza, kill as many Palestinians et al as they can and take it for themselves

Twaddle.

Making sure the murderous savages, their aides and supporters are completely eliminated.

Just now, bolty58 said:

Twaddle.

Making sure the murderous savages, their aides and supporters are completely eliminated.

Ourt of interest, do you see it all completely black and white - so it's 100% Israel good, and 100% Palestine bad?

And to be clear, I don't have any preference or skin in the game, I'd be happy for the lot of them, both sides to be completely wiped out, so the rest of the world can move on. There will never be peace between the two sides, it's just not possible.

16 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Twaddle.

Making sure the murderous savages, their aides and supporters are completely eliminated.

do you think that everyone who has been killed so far, and those who have been denied aid etc, all fall in that category?

18 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Twaddle.

Making sure the murderous savages, their aides and supporters are completely eliminated.

Another genuine question - are you ok therefore with all the Palestinian babies/children who have been killed in the conflict? Acceptable collateral?

1 hour ago, royal white said:


Again you struggle with simple reading. How has “anyone working for HAMAS is likely to end up dead” ended up being “every person who’s been involved  with them” stop making shit up. 

You might see it as an odd jusifiication but it’s pretty much the truth.

You were quick to say the telegram post is fake but have shown nothing to back up Your claim. BB asked and now I’ll ask. Why is it fake? 

Straight back in with the rattled insults that I can’t read and I’m making stuff up. Lovely discussion skills again 😉

I’m simply stating that people like Doctors are working for the Hamas health ministry. 

Should they expect to die ? 

In what capacity did this fella’s media work support Hamas to target Israeli civilians?

Ive seen nothing yet that justifies he was a terrorist. Which is why I think it’s more likely he & his colleagues were targeted because the IDF didn’t like his journalism 👍 

I’ll try saying it again - we don’t need a 3 day pathetic back & forth about whether it’s fake or legit. Neither of us can prove it. I’m just telling you what I think. Now let’s move on x

 

 

31 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Straight back in with the rattled insults that I can’t read and I’m making stuff up. Lovely discussion skills again 😉

I’m simply stating that people like Doctors are working for the Hamas health ministry. 

Should they expect to die ? 

In what capacity did this fella’s media work support Hamas to target Israeli civilians?

Ive seen nothing yet that justifies he was a terrorist. Which is why I think it’s more likely he & his colleagues were targeted because the IDF didn’t like his journalism 👍 

I’ll try saying it again - we don’t need a 3 day pathetic back & forth about whether it’s fake or legit. Neither of us can prove it. I’m just telling you what I think. Now let’s move on x

 

 

Rattled insults 😂😂 just stop making things up, you do it constantly, it’s weird.

Ive no idea what capacity he worked with HAMAS, as ive already told you 🤦🏻 obviously many others do. It could be something as simple as telling HAMAS where IRD are on the ground, if that’s the case he deserved to die. 

Why do You think it’s fake? Try and Post something to back up your claim. You was all for it yesterday now you want to leave it 😂

3 hours ago, royal white said:

Rattled insults 😂😂 just stop making things up, you do it constantly, it’s weird.

Ive no idea what capacity he worked with HAMAS, as ive already told you 🤦🏻 obviously many others do. It could be something as simple as telling HAMAS where IRD are on the ground, if that’s the case he deserved to die. 

Why do You think it’s fake? Try and Post something to back up your claim. You was all for it yesterday now you want to leave it 😂

You really can’t let anything go can you? 😂😂

I’ve not made anything up. I don’t think it looks convincing. You do. Neither of us have posted anything that backs up our claim.

 It’s fine mate, it’s ok to agree to disagree and move on.

 

Edited by London Wanderer

23 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

You really can’t let anything go can you? 😂😂

I’ve not made anything up. I don’t think it looks convincing. You do. Neither of us have posted anything that backs up our claim.

 It’s fine mate, it’s ok to agree to disagree and move on.

 

As I said earlier, it was  a different story yesterday when you and @Casino were at it. What’s changed? I thought you may have had something to back Your claim up “I don’t think it looks convincing” is comical really. Feel free to Post something when you find it.  

7 hours ago, wakey said:

Bit concerned to realise there's no definitive proof I'm not in Hamas.

Or that Bolty's not, come to think of it.

Absolutely. 

Me neither- although maybe my family is from Al Queda stock. 

The problem with the fog of war- misinformation is a specific weapon. 

Was regaled of a tale today- one of the photos of a malnourished Gazan child, was doctored and used without full explanation. 

The photo originally showed the child and his sibling. The latter, like his mother, was in good health and not hugely underweight.

It had been doctored to edit him out.

The sickly child actually had a liver condition causing his problems, and even his mother wasn't claiming starvation.

This story may also be bollocks, or be true.

Maybe all us Hamas members should meet up and discuss how to remove Israel.

 

1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Absolutely. 

Me neither- although maybe my family is from Al Queda stock. 

The problem with the fog of war- misinformation is a specific weapon. 

Was regaled of a tale today- one of the photos of a malnourished Gazan child, was doctored and used without full explanation. 

The photo originally showed the child and his sibling. The latter, like his mother, was in good health and not hugely underweight.

It had been doctored to edit him out.

The sickly child actually had a liver condition causing his problems, and even his mother wasn't claiming starvation.

This story may also be bollocks, or be true.

Maybe all us Hamas members should meet up and discuss how to remove Israel.

 

Who regaled you with that tale? Seeing as you've stopped watching/reading/listening to either side....

12 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Absolutely. 

Me neither- although maybe my family is from Al Queda stock. 

The problem with the fog of war- misinformation is a specific weapon. 

Was regaled of a tale today- one of the photos of a malnourished Gazan child, was doctored and used without full explanation. 

The photo originally showed the child and his sibling. The latter, like his mother, was in good health and not hugely underweight.

It had been doctored to edit him out.

The sickly child actually had a liver condition causing his problems, and even his mother wasn't claiming starvation.

This story may also be bollocks, or be true.

Maybe all us Hamas members should meet up and discuss how to remove Israel.

 

Yep, that was the poor kid on the front of the express that was posted on here. Poor sod has a history of illnesses and it’s was made out that he was being starved. It was then shared worldwide, a day later the truth came out. I’m pretty sure I posted about it on here. 

The WW verify team will be busy tonight.😉

(They’ll be martyrs tomorrow)

 

1 hour ago, royal white said:

As I said earlier, it was  a different story yesterday when you and @Casino were at it. What’s changed? I thought you may have had something to back Your claim up “I don’t think it looks convincing” is comical really. Feel free to Post something when you find it.  

Are you still going 😂😂

 I’m glad you find it comical 

Nothing has changed, the story is the same. Myself & Casino are still dubious of the ‘evidence’ being presented to us.

 We don’t need to provide you with anything. Neither you or I have the evidence to prove our views.

You just need to let it go.

 Let’s see if you can …. 

Edited by London Wanderer

36 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

The WW verify team will be busy tonight.😉

(They’ll be martyrs tomorrow)

 

Seems legit if the organisation has verified it too 

1 hour ago, BobyBrno said:

The WW verify team will be busy tonight.😉

(They’ll be martyrs tomorrow)

 

5 terrorists eliminated from the air

see

they can be accurate if they try

59 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Are you still going 😂😂

 I’m glad you find it comical 

Nothing has changed, the story is the same. Myself & Casino are still dubious of the ‘evidence’ being presented to us.

 We don’t need to provide you with anything. Neither you or I have the evidence to prove our views.

You just need to let it go.

 Let’s see if you can …. 

Dubious of the evidence 😂😂 but can’t provide anything to say it’s fake. 
 

If you reply I’ll come back, it’s how it works, if you don’t want to engage any further just ignore me. Good to see that COGAT is on your list of verified posters now though 🤦🏻😂

4 hours ago, royal white said:

Yep, that was the poor kid on the front of the express that was posted on here. Poor sod has a history of illnesses and it’s was made out that he was being starved. It was then shared worldwide, a day later the truth came out. I’m pretty sure I posted about it on here. 

You did. He's got a number of congenital health conditions. None of which should cause him to look like that. 

Try and find a child with a similar health condition in the UK that looks like a skeleton. You won't find one - because they will be getting adequate nutrition and medication. Both of which this poor kid is no longer recieving. 

The World Health Organisation are quoting 227 deaths relating to malnutrition - with 103 being children. And 87 adults starving to death in the last 5 weeks. 

So if that's the case - there will be hundreds if not thousands nearing starvation. 

And it's now not a simple as just sending loads of food in. Once people are starving - they are at risk of something called re-feeding syndrome, which is fatal in about 1 in 5 cases. Basically their electrolytes (phosphates, potassium, magnesium etc) are completely to pot and the insulin surge caused by carbohydrates in the food will deplete their blood of them. Causing all sorts of mayhem.

Expect lots of cardiac arrests, respiratory failures and seizures unless they begin re-feeding under medical supervision. Which they can't do because there's likely too many people to treat/a lack of facilities and equipment/lots of dead Drs/Nurses and Dietitians.

God knows how they are going to manage that without letting teams of foreign medics in to support the efforts. 

That's of course - if the famine which is being reported is true. If it's not then we've nothing to worry about. 

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