Is it kicking off big time or is this just everyday stuff they deal with or a bit of both?

 

1 hour ago, bolton va va said:

Nothing has changed. There's no chance of a ceasefire or an end to the conflict unless the palestinian terrorists release the hostages unharmed.

And the Palestinian hostages kidnapped & stuck in Israeli prisons. Many before Oct 7th. Should they be released as well? 

2 hours ago, bolton va va said:

unless the palestinian terrorists release the hostages unharmed.

You think there are any left?

1 hour ago, Zico said:

They could release them tomorrow and there's still no chance of it ending

If the hostages were released unharmed, I think there is a slim chance of moving the Trump peace deal on to the other 19 points but as long as the hostages are held there is no chance...........though even if it moved on, I think it would fall apart at one of the other points.

1 hour ago, London Wanderer said:

And the Palestinian hostages kidnapped & stuck in Israeli prisons. Many before Oct 7th. Should they be released as well? 

palestinian hostages,  ha ha ha.  palestinian prisoners released in exchange for hostages have included convicted murderers & terrorists.

46 minutes ago, Casino said:

You think there are any left?

There were supposed to be 20 Jewish hostages still alive but it' slooking like the palestinian terrorists have murdered 2 more.

1 hour ago, bolton va va said:

palestinian hostages,  ha ha ha.  palestinian prisoners released in exchange for hostages have included convicted murderers & terrorists.

And uncharged/untried teenagers?

Folk locked up for resisting Israelis stealing their land?

Just for balance

1 hour ago, bolton va va said:

There were supposed to be 20 Jewish hostages still alive but it' slooking like the palestinian terrorists have murdered 2 more.

I hope some are released alive. But I honestly cant see it

8 hours ago, Sweep said:

Theres your problem.... 

Would you expect them to approve of a terrorist state on their doorstep? Like living next door to the ill fated ISIS 'state'. No thanks.

The most likely outcome is that the murderous scumbags of Hamas will reject this potential deal and Gaza city and its tunnels will be completely destroyed. I could be wrong. A small percentage chance they will see there is no other option unless 'martyrdom' is more important to them.

6 hours ago, bolton va va said:

palestinian hostages,  ha ha ha.  palestinian prisoners released in exchange for hostages have included convicted murderers & terrorists.

Yes many hostages.

Israel have an administrative detention law where they aren’t required to give a reason for arrest or even give the detainee a right to trial. No doubt some are arrested for valid reasons. However, Israel’s data showed that only a quarter detained were fighters . There is widespread evidence of Israel taking innocent civilians, even journalists & children & locking them away. With no right to trial & no reason given . If that’s not taking hostages, then I’ve no idea what is. 
 

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/07/israel-must-end-mass-incommunicado-detention-and-torture-of-palestinians-from-gaza/

 And this was happening long, long before Oct 7th.

Laugh away mate… you’ve just come across as another one with absolutely no knowledge of the other side in this conflict. Painting it as simple as Israel vs the terrorists… whilst making a bit of a fool of yourself 👍

7 hours ago, bolton va va said:

If the hostages were released unharmed, I think there is a slim chance of moving the Trump peace deal on to the other 19 points but as long as the hostages are held there is no chance...........though even if it moved on, I think it would fall apart at one of the other points.

Two things

They are definitely not unharmed, be it physically or mentally, it's something they will probably never recover from 

BN doesn't care, they are not his priority, it's never been about getting the hostages back, they want Gaza for themselves, that's what it's about

37 minutes ago, Zico said:

Two things

They are definitely not unharmed, be it physically or mentally, it's something they will probably never recover from 

BN doesn't care, they are not his priority, it's never been about getting the hostages back, they want Gaza for themselves, that's what it's about

I reckon the Bolton News does care even if only a little bit.

41 minutes ago, Zico said:

Two things

They are definitely not unharmed, be it physically or mentally, it's something they will probably never recover from 

BN doesn't care, they are not his priority, it's never been about getting the hostages back, they want Gaza for themselves, that's what it's about

I think BN’s priority has been to stay as PM in order to stay out of jail.  That’s why he’s had to have evil far-right members in his cabinet coalition (Bezalel Smotrich and Itamar Ben-Gvir) and humour their open desires for ethnic cleansing in Gaza and the West Bank.

2 hours ago, Zico said:

 BN doesn't care, they are not his priority, it's never been about getting the hostages back, they want Gaza for themselves, that's what it's about

Drivel. Supreme drivel at that.

49 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

Drivel. Supreme drivel at that.

Point me in the direction of something that says otherwise

I'll wait 

3 hours ago, Zico said:

Point me in the direction of something that says otherwise

I'll wait 

You won't wait long.

The most recently proposed agreement.

Next!

I hope Bolty has taken his blood pressure tablets today.  The humanitarian aid flotilla is due to arrive in Gaza tomorrow - let’s hope it gets through. Greta Thunberg deserves a nomination for the Nobel peace prize for this 💪 🎻.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-flotilla-says-unlit-vessels-approached-its-boats-prompting-security-2025-10-01/

58 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

You won't wait long.

The most recently proposed agreement.

Next!

so it took two years of destroying gaza before they could come up with a plan that involves returning the hostages?

well I'm glad they got there in the end

I would absolutely piss myself if Greta Thunberg got the Nobel Peace Prize and not because I'm an incontinent old flag shagger

3 hours ago, Bertie said:

I hope Bolty has taken his blood pressure tablets today.  The humanitarian aid flotilla is due to arrive in Gaza tomorrow - let’s hope it gets through. Greta Thunberg deserves a nomination for the Nobel peace prize for this 💪 🎻.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-flotilla-says-unlit-vessels-approached-its-boats-prompting-security-2025-10-01/

Calm down now 😆

She does proper trigger some blokes though. The outrage is very odd. 

22 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Calm down now 😆

She does proper trigger some blokes though. The outrage is very odd. 

It's generally old gammons.

It's bizarre how much she triggers them. Bizarre but hilarious.

4 hours ago, Zico said:

so it took two years of destroying gaza before they could come up with a plan that involves returning the hostages?

well I'm glad they got there in the end

Even if you’re the die hard pro Israel type, like Bolty is, the kind that thinks Israel should be a country, but Palestine not. I still don’t get why you could think this has been only about getting the hostages back.

 The hostage’ families have been out protesting regularly, claiming that their governments tactics hasn’t been the best way to bring them back. 

1 hour ago, DazBob said:

It's generally old gammons.

It's bizarre how much she triggers them. Bizarre but hilarious.

Bizarre is an understatement. The sadistic weirdo said he wanted to slap her about the last time we brought her up. 

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10 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Even if you’re the die hard pro Israel type, like Bolty is, the kind that thinks Israel should be a country, but Palestine not. I still don’t get why you could think this has been only about getting the hostages back.

 The hostage’ families have been out protesting regularly, claiming that their governments tactics hasn’t been the best way to bring them back. 

No doubt many of the hostages have been blown to bits by Israeli bombs anyway. They even murdered a few who were in the process of escaping, even though they were obviously unarmed and waving a white flag at the time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Alon_Shamriz,_Yotam_Haim,_and_Samer_Talalka

12 hours ago, Zico said:

so it took two years of destroying gaza before they could come up with a plan that involves returning the hostages?

well I'm glad they got there in the end

Define 'they'.

3 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Define 'they'.

They/them 

The Israeli government