Slow news day, or end of the world?

”Aggressive” new variant has landed in Moscow. Makes people, even those that have been vaccinated, more poorly than previous types.

Time for Uncle Joe to push the button? Short term pain.

Just now, Mounts Kipper said:

I think you are right patients with Covid were  retuned to care homes it wasn’t just asymptomatic folk. I agree there should be an enquiry. 

Good to have you back ❤️

3 minutes ago, Spider said:

Even if an enquiry finds that Hancock issued a written instruction that all pensioners  were to be kicked back to their care homes and fed a steady diet of Covid 19 and dog dirt, I suspect Boris saying sorry will be enough.

He won't actually say he's sorry it happened, he'll say he's sorry some people got upset about it.

Hes already claiming its cleared him

I cant keep up

So are we saying the government instructed private and council care homes what to do and they have all just done it? 
 

not been keeping up with all this been busy. 

5 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I think you are right patients already with Covid symptoms were returned to care homes it wasn’t just asymptomatic folk. I agree there should be an enquiry. 

As they were in hospital, the patients were known to have covid. The asymptomatic aspect applies to other folk in the care homes and staff. They could spread it without knowing. 

The issue then becomes a lack of knowledge of the disease and how to deal with it. Additionally, almost certainly very few care homes would have had sufficient infrastructure to deal with it, even if they routinely isolated and managed folk with infections. This thing was beyond what they were used to and able to cope with.

Add insufficient equipment into that, and a perfect storm results.

Of course, when the inquiry eventually concludes, it may decide that decisions were inadequate: given the novelty of the illness should standard procedures have been knocked on the head, until it was known to be safe?

 

36 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

As they were in hospital, the patients were known to have covid. 

 

I thought they just fucked everybody off from hospital, whether they were in with covid or not

And seeing as they may have been asymptomatic its a big fat BOOM

im not overly sure what else they couldve done, but im not the court

"Let the bodies pile up"

14 hours ago, Casino said:

I thought they just fucked everybody off from hospital, whether they were in with covid or not

And seeing as they may have been asymptomatic its a big fat BOOM

im not overly sure what else they couldve done, but im not the court

Pretty much yes. I modified my words as they didn't convey the proper picture.

The asymptomatic aspect has played a big role all round.

So as the inability to properly isolate individuals with it. Even hospitals with better facilities have struggled, so care homes were onto a loser.

Ultimately comes down to money and resources. Would.it have been political acceptable to have had large areas of isolatable treatment wards lying unused in case of a pandemic- probably not.

Now, maybe.

Good job they got all the big decisions right, we would have been in trouble if they hadn`t.

Edited April 28, 20224 yr by Nowack
Right thread

 

2 hours ago, Rudy said:

 

Well they made it, what did they expect?

 

I smell bullshit. Fucking weasel.

 

 

Yep. Thought as much

Lying fuck.

 

 

 

Angela Rayner was present at Sir Keir Starmer lockdown beers, Labour confirm | Politics News | Sky News

Tut tut.....

1 hour ago, jeep said:

Angela Rayner was present at Sir Keir Starmer lockdown beers, Labour confirm | Politics News | Sky News

Tut tut.....

More to it than just that too. Adverts seen for people to join in and get pissed.

Sooner or later if one lot keeps digging for dirt, another lot will dig back.

All very sad really. 

I do hope Angela's legs were on show on zoom though.

 

3 hours ago, jeep said:

Angela Rayner was present at Sir Keir Starmer lockdown beers, Labour confirm | Politics News | Sky News

Tut tut.....

I’ve moved on as instructed.

26 minutes ago, Spider said:

I’ve moved on as instructed.

Labour hasn't.

3 hours ago, jeep said:

Angela Rayner was present at Sir Keir Starmer lockdown beers, Labour confirm | Politics News | Sky News

Tut tut.....

Can’t be right false story

all piss in same pot 

37 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Labour hasn't.

Nor should they.

4 hours ago, jeep said:

Angela Rayner was present at Sir Keir Starmer lockdown beers, Labour confirm | Politics News | Sky News

Tut tut.....

Boris’ fault I’m sure 

41 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Nor should they.

But it's OK when they do it?

They can clear the entire Labour front bench for me

Im still in the “they weren’t running the country” camp on this though.

Its not going away. It shouldn’t until people take responsibility. 

2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

But it's OK when they do it?

Nope.

16 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

More to it than just that too. Adverts seen for people to join in and get pissed.

Sooner or later if one lot keeps digging for dirt, another lot will dig back.

All very sad really. 

I do hope Angela's legs were on show on zoom though.

 

Not really comparable and no law was broken. It's red meat for Daily Mail readers though.

https://www.indy100.com/news/keir-starmer-beer-party-lockdown

Also worth bearing in mind that if Covid hit before May was ousted and she was in No.10 instead of Johnson, does anyone think these parties would have happened, because I doubt it.

3 hours ago, Winchester White said:

Not really comparable and no law was broken. It's red meat for Daily Mail readers though.

https://www.indy100.com/news/keir-starmer-beer-party-lockdown

Also worth bearing in mind that if Covid hit before May was ousted and she was in No.10 instead of Johnson, does anyone think these parties would have happened, because I doubt it.

That's precisely what the met and the tories said initially. Then low and behold something changes and the law is broken.

Folk have done more digging and some of the rules supposedly in place at the time of the breaches weren't. 

Questions being asked as to whether it was legitimate to travel the country for a do where some folk gathered in doors, drunk beer and held a question session/quiz over zoom. Remarkably similar, except one was in a place of work and one wasn't.

Very easy to see how areas become grey. By incessant pushing, labour have now brought scrutiny upon themselves. 

You can cut the crap about Mail readers too. Of course the paper will report such things. As the mirror and star will the other way. It's what they do.

Doesn't detract from the fact that arguments can and will he made into both sets of activities. Which is over the top and wasteful.