Anyone felt the pinch yet?

Notice a good proportion of my hotels are quiet this week. But with the jubilee round the corner and pride the week after maybe folk are simply saving their trips for that.

Cant help but feel the media are driving a lot of it. They seem hell bent on us heading into a recession. Making people panic and stop spending.

They should be telling everyone its all gravy.

Only area Ive felt it is diesel. £154 to fill my van the other day. That's taking the piss.

12 minutes ago, Spider said:

Oh

A trade deal must never have gotten a mention then from the Leave campaign.

I was sure it did. I must be wrong 😁

Brexiteers have forgotten all their own bullshit. It’s a condition.

#obsessed

26 minutes ago, Spider said:

Oh

A trade deal must never have gotten a mention then from the Leave campaign.

I was sure it did. I must be wrong 😁

No one said it didn't. And just for your benefit as you seem to struggle with reality, much work has already been completed with the individual states. And additionally, the fta has been largely completed. You can read about it, but you won't, obviously. 

The stumbling block, as described above, is the Biden presidency and its approach. 

7 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

No one said it didn't. And just for your benefit as you seem to struggle with reality, much work has already been completed with the individual states. And additionally, the fta has been largely completed. You can read about it, but you won't, obviously. 

The stumbling block, as described above, is the Biden presidency and its approach. 

Facts - ignored

Rumours - facts

21 minutes ago, globaldiver said:

Facts - ignored

Rumours - facts

Ah well, moaners gotta moan.

 

I have no issue with how we’ve always traded with the US.

As always I may be being too subtle.

My point was that the leave campaign made a huge song and dance about easy trade deals. They don’t do that anymore.

whatever is happening is irrelevant to the point. Hope that’s clear.

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

 And additionally, the fta has been largely completed.

Brexit has been largely completed too.

Or in English, neither have been completed.

Gas is working out at £10 a day now

bonkers 

2 minutes ago, radcliffe white said:

Gas is working out at £10 a day now

bonkers 

Gas & electric I’m about £15 per day. 

1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Gas & electric I’m about £15 per day. 

Yeah about the same then

 

 

1 minute ago, radcliffe white said:

Yeah about the same then

 

 

Luckily I’m out of here Sunday… save me a few bob next couple of weeks. 

10 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Gas & electric I’m about £15 per day. 

Yup, same, 

10 quid gas and about 4 quid leccy. 

House is constantly cold too

It's cheaper to come to work

4 minutes ago, Dr Faustus said:

It's cheaper to come to work

I'm glad I work from home. Trade is so quiet right now that I'd be really struggling if I had the overheads of a shop.

1 hour ago, Traf said:

I'm glad I work from home. Trade is so quiet right now that I'd be really struggling if I had the overheads of a shop.

I'll call you later actually, as I need a Vegas trip booking for next September...

Only really realised how much everything has gone up lately, and now understanbding why so many are struggling and worrying so much.

Mortgage up, energy, fuel, food cost, insurance policies all up...in total its just more than a mininmum weekely wage increase per month for me, and we are quite pro-active with the gas / elec.

More increases coming, its going to get very grim.

Sad times.

 

 

12 minutes ago, Pablo said:

Only really realised how much everything has gone up lately, and now understanbding why so many are struggling and worrying so much.

Mortgage up, energy, fuel, food cost, insurance policies all up...in total its just more than a mininmum weekely wage increase per month for me, and we are quite pro-active with the gas / elec.

More increases coming, its going to get very grim.

Sad times.

This is the thing.
When a couple of your regular outgoings go up, you should grin and bear it, but everything has gone up apart from wages.

5 minutes ago, Traf said:

This is the thing.
When a couple of your regular outgoings go up, you should grin and bear it, but everything has gone up apart from wages.

Exactly, and people need help.

On 08/12/2022 at 19:17, Tonge moor green jacket said:

 

The stumbling block, as described above, is the Biden presidency and its approach. 

What? It's the same approach to a trade deal with the UK as Obama and Trump i.e. now that we are no longer part of the EU bloc we are small fry and have lost all the trade deals we previously enjoyed. Successive presidents have made it clear (well actually it's the cross-party Ways and Means committee who decide these things) that their priority is to secure trade deals with China and the EU and the tiny, tiny, tiny UK market is now at the back of the queue.

The stumbling block is Brexit where we sacrificed our negotiating strength - negotiating strength that we gained when we joined the EU negotiating bloc in the first place - even Thatcher recognised that FFS.

On 11/11/2022 at 08:14, gonzo said:

The NHS is an absolute money pit. 

From supplies to contracts. In my old job it was well known amongst contractors, if its NHS, name your price. 

Could whack 10-20% on any price and you'd still get it.

 

The same is true of Defence Estates who I've worked with and other government departmental procurement - they pay through the nose. One of the primary reasons for this is laziness and ineptitude - they use procurement frameworks which are incredibly uncompetitive and aren't refreshed anywhere near often enough - so the same old suppliers get contract after contract regardless of how shit or expensive they are - and most of it is decided on political influence and contacts. As a nation, we are incompetent at business.

Compare and contrast with EU funding in the UK e.g. ESF and ERDF where procurement rules were clear, stringent, rigorously monitored and failure to deliver meant clawback. The only problem with EU funding was that the British government were tasked with managing some of the funds - but at least they had to meet the EU rules so they couldn't wander too far down the path of cronyism and incompetence.

 

 

1 hour ago, Wanderlust said:

What? It's the same approach to a trade deal with the UK as Obama and Trump i.e. now that we are no longer part of the EU bloc we are small fry and have lost all the trade deals we previously enjoyed. Successive presidents have made it clear (well actually it's the cross-party Ways and Means committee who decide these things) that their priority is to secure trade deals with China and the EU and the tiny, tiny, tiny UK market is now at the back of the queue.

The stumbling block is Brexit where we sacrificed our negotiating strength - negotiating strength that we gained when we joined the EU negotiating bloc in the first place - even Thatcher recognised that FFS.

Strange then that the deal is essentially done. Techical details largely agreed. 

An arrangement that relaxes the protectionism of both the EU and the USA, and allows for an even better flow of goods.

Yes, the current president isn't happy about brexit, not that it's any of his business, but if he chooses to cut off his nose to spite his face, then so be it. He'll be gone soon though thankfully. 

Since leaving some relaxations have already occurred, which I have pointed out previously. So even without an fta, trade is already more relaxed than when we were in the EU.

Funny how such things are never mentioned by remain centric individuals.

Nor for that the arrest of certain individuals over there, nor the huge battle amongst members over energy pricing etc, with hostile words and accusations. 

Nor the fact that the UK has been playing a huge role in helping them wash away their reliance on Russian gas, even whilst not being a member.

Could go on.

 

2 hours ago, Wanderlust said:

What? It's the same approach to a trade deal with the UK as Obama and Trump i.e. now that we are no longer part of the EU bloc we are small fry and have lost all the trade deals we previously enjoyed. Successive presidents have made it clear (well actually it's the cross-party Ways and Means committee who decide these things) that their priority is to secure trade deals with China and the EU and the tiny, tiny, tiny UK market is now at the back of the queue.

The stumbling block is Brexit where we sacrificed our negotiating strength - negotiating strength that we gained when we joined the EU negotiating bloc in the first place - even Thatcher recognised that FFS.

Quite amazing that you believe that as you write it. Such blinkered nonsense.

If we had such a great strong hand when in the EU, how come the EU don’t have a FTA with the US?

generally we run a trade surplus with the US.

 

Kids school have done a clothes drive this morning, they've got families in dire need, and it's not the ones claiming. 

Wife's taken down 3 bags of kids clothes, people have been sending them in and parents can take 6 pieces of clothing per kid. Wife's ironed and folded them all so they look nicer. Must be grim to be in that position. 

Headteacher has said they have about 5/6 families who are up sheet creek with it, struggling with essentials... again.. Hard working families who just can't face it. 

We're lucky, we both work, (although I've just been shown the door I've got a list of recruiters wanting me for January) and we're on a decent wage. Being a workaholic helps. We're going to pop down to asda later and buy 5 food hampers worth..said to my wife... if it sorts out 3/4 meals for a family of 4, could make the world of difference. 

Puts perspective on things, 

3 hours ago, only1swanny said:

Kids school have done a clothes drive this morning, they've got families in dire need, and it's not the ones claiming. 

Wife's taken down 3 bags of kids clothes, people have been sending them in and parents can take 6 pieces of clothing per kid. Wife's ironed and folded them all so they look nicer. Must be grim to be in that position. 

Headteacher has said they have about 5/6 families who are up sheet creek with it, struggling with essentials... again.. Hard working families who just can't face it. 

We're lucky, we both work, (although I've just been shown the door I've got a list of recruiters wanting me for January) and we're on a decent wage. Being a workaholic helps. We're going to pop down to asda later and buy 5 food hampers worth..said to my wife... if it sorts out 3/4 meals for a family of 4, could make the world of difference. 

Puts perspective on things, 

You forgot to blame the boat people, so just doing that here for you mate.

Nice work on helping out.

7 hours ago, only1swanny said:

Kids school have done a clothes drive this morning, they've got families in dire need, and it's not the ones claiming. 

Wife's taken down 3 bags of kids clothes, people have been sending them in and parents can take 6 pieces of clothing per kid. Wife's ironed and folded them all so they look nicer. Must be grim to be in that position. 

Headteacher has said they have about 5/6 families who are up sheet creek with it, struggling with essentials... again.. Hard working families who just can't face it. 

We're lucky, we both work, (although I've just been shown the door I've got a list of recruiters wanting me for January) and we're on a decent wage. Being a workaholic helps. We're going to pop down to asda later and buy 5 food hampers worth..said to my wife... if it sorts out 3/4 meals for a family of 4, could make the world of difference. 

Puts perspective on things, 

Good work Swanny

We’re planning on not bothering with a lot of the usual “buy for the sake of it” Christmas food and getting foodbank stuff instead