Meanwhile In England

[royal white]

2 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Oh, petal, you're doing your old gishy gallop thing again.

I'm afraid, your gold star has to be taken back.

Maybe next week.

No where does he try to tell people not to make the journey, this would have been a great time and platform for him. Obviously he just wanted a few lines in a red top to boost his profile. 

[Not in Crawley]

12 minutes ago, royal white said:

No where does he try to tell people not to make the journey, this would have been a great time and platform for him. Obviously he just wanted a few lines in a red top to boost his profile. 

OK then lad, as I say, you know best 😁

[Spider]

Problem solved lads - we’ve just bought the French a slap up dinner and they’ve “pwomised, ‘and on ‘eart” to stop the bots for us.

We believe them, don’t we?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64916446

[kent_white]

1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said:

Yes there is, it's all pretty accessible which is why this new legislation won't get passed.

There was a recent radio 4 programme about it, and the numbers missing because of lack of processing was scary if I recall.

Can you access it for me - and then present it to me in a readable format so that I can make an informed decision please?  😁

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 hour ago, Spider said:

Problem solved lads - we’ve just bought the French a slap up dinner and they’ve “pwomised, ‘and on ‘eart” to stop the bots for us.

We believe them, don’t we?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64916446

Since the previous agreement, reports are saying around 50% of crossings are being prevented. Hence why they are moving launch sites further south.

Things seem to be moving in the right direction. 

Still work to do.

[globaldiver]

1 hour ago, Spider said:

Problem solved lads - we’ve just bought the French a slap up dinner and they’ve “pwomised, ‘and on ‘eart” to stop the bots for us.

We believe them, don’t we?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64916446

Another scratch of the surface. Where do we find detail of what has been achieved to date with our French friends?

[Not in Crawley]

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

Can you access it for me - and then present it to me in a readable format so that I can make an informed decision please?  😁

😄 not a problem.

[Mounts Kipper]

3 hours ago, Not in Crawley said:

Did you read the article?

He was still an illegal immigrant. He'd have been slung out now. You do see the issue, don't you?

There are safe routes for war torn countries… see Ukraine & Syria. So no I don’t see the issue…the message must be find a safe route & don’t travel on an illegal and unsafe route. Don’t you agree that’s the correct and proper message to send. 

Edited March 10, 2023 by Mounts Kipper

[Not in Crawley]

16 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

There are safe routes for war torn countries… see Ukraine & Syria. So no I don’t see the issue…the message must be find a safe route & don’t travel on an illegal and unsafe route. Don’t you agree that’s the correct and proper message to send. 

They weren't at war when he travelled. It had ended. He would have been sent home under these new proposals.

If people are desperate they will make horrible choices none of us would want to, you are applying the logic of a person safe in a country, many are desperate. They wouldn't make the journey otherwise.

I mean, Dritan will be in Oldham, go and watch it, see his life and those of thousands of others and why they make these decisions.

[Winchester White]

I still don't understand where this phrase illegal immigrant came from?

As I understand it an illegal immigrant is someone who has travelled here and has not claimed asylum or has claimed asylum  but disappeared since. Am I wrong?

If you haven't even reached our shores and are on a dinghy in the English Channel, how are you an illegal immigrant? Or was that what the set of laws passed last year did?

[Mounts Kipper]

22 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

They weren't at war when he travelled. It had ended. He would have been sent home under these new proposals.

If people are desperate they will make horrible choices none of us would want to, you are applying the logic of a person safe in a country, many are desperate. They wouldn't make the journey otherwise.

I mean, Dritan will be in Oldham, go and watch it, see his life and those of thousands of others and why they make these decisions.

It’s great he’s made a new life for himself, however he could of died on crossing, he could of chose asylum in the first country he landed in and he should of done that.. the UK can’t absorb the number of folk who want to come here, the government were voted in to control our borders and need to make sure they get on top of it before the next election. We need to somehow stop illegal routes, that will save life’s and allow us to take more folk via legal and safe routes… no one should oppose that remit. 

[Not in Crawley]

5 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

It’s great he’s made a new life for himself, however he could of died on crossing, he could of chose asylum in the first country he landed in and he should of done that.. the UK can’t absorb the number of folk who want to come here, the government were voted in to control our borders and need to make sure they get on top of it before the next election. We need to somehow stop illegal routes, that will save life’s and allow us to take more folk via legal and safe routes… no one should oppose that remit. 

But, people will keep trying, just trying to shut down routes isn't going to simply stop it. His parents wouldn't want to have sent him, they felt they had no choice. Actually the bulk of the story is about the Foster system.

Which is why it needs a much more holistic and humane approach with closer partnership working in Europe.

Anyway, I do get your point, but honestly go and have a watch, it's a great show and it certainly opened up me to.a lot of issues I know I wasn't aware of.

[Zico]

On 09/03/2023 at 21:59, gonzo said:

The Albanians are all over Blackpool now having already conquered the north west. They have every area covered with runners.

Mad how they have managed to take over areas with what seems like little resistance.

Cash laundered through the 6 million Turkish barbers across the north west too

I've posted this before 

my mum reckons the albanians are taking over horwich

she tells me this one guy started off working in the kitchen at leos

now he owns several barbars and cafes on lee lane, far more than are required, you can spot them all because they all have the same black and red signage

he also opened a pound shop, then went in the other pound shops intimidating the owners about how he was the top pound shop in the area now

 

 

[Spider]

7 minutes ago, Zico said:

I've posted this before 

my mum reckons the albanians are taking over horwich

she tells me this one guy started off working in the kitchen at leos

now he owns several barbars and cafes on lee lane, far more than are required, you can spot them all because they all have the same black and red signage

he also opened a pound shop, then went in the other pound shops intimidating the owners about how he was the top pound shop in the area now

 

 

She may have a point.

There’s a new shop just opened and all it sells are bowls of tavë kosi and portraits of Enver Hoxha.

The owner drives a BMW with headlights that turn into machine guns.

Still no darkies in the parish though.

[Cheese]

10 minutes ago, Zico said:

I've posted this before 

my mum reckons the albanians are taking over horwich

she tells me this one guy started off working in the kitchen at leos

now he owns several barbars and cafes on lee lane, far more than are required, you can spot them all because they all have the same black and red signage

he also opened a pound shop, then went in the other pound shops intimidating the owners about how he was the top pound shop in the area now

I've just had a quick google and counted 46 barbershops and salons in Horwich. Madness.

[Spider]

41 minutes ago, Cheese said:

I've just had a quick google and counted 46 barbershops and salons in Horwich. Madness.

I know you’re kidding, but I reckon that’s correct

[Cheese]

1 minute ago, Spider said:

I know you’re kidding, but I reckon that’s correct

I'm not. I actually checked. 26 barbershops, and 20 salons.

Edited March 11, 2023 by Cheese

[Spider]

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

I'm not. I actually checked. 26 barbershops, and 20 salons.

The people of Horwich spend all their money on their eyebrows apparently.

All run by Albanians. Called Janine.

[Traf]

1 hour ago, Zico said:

he was the top pound shop in the area now

That'd be a good sitcom...

[Zico]

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

I've just had a quick google and counted 46 barbershops and salons in Horwich. Madness.

Aye 

He could've tried other niches but went with an already very saturated market

This in turn is what fuels suspicions

[Jol_BWFC]

Good for money laundering, hair dressers. 

[London Wanderer]

8 hours ago, Zico said:

I've posted this before 

my mum reckons the albanians are taking over horwich

she tells me this one guy started off working in the kitchen at leos

now he owns several barbars and cafes on lee lane, far more than are required, you can spot them all because they all have the same black and red signage

he also opened a pound shop, then went in the other pound shops intimidating the owners about how he was the top pound shop in the area now

 

 

Never knew Royal White was your mam

[Mounts Kipper]

10 hours ago, Zico said:

I've posted this before 

my mum reckons the albanians are taking over horwich

she tells me this one guy started off working in the kitchen at leos

now he owns several barbars and cafes on lee lane, far more than are required, you can spot them all because they all have the same black and red signage

he also opened a pound shop, then went in the other pound shops intimidating the owners about how he was the top pound shop in the area now

 

 

It’ll not end well, and to think some folk are gullible enough to think they are genuine asylum seekers. 

[globaldiver]

13 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

It’ll not end well, and to think some folk are gullible enough to think they are genuine asylum seekers. 

Some on here!

[Cheese]

17 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

It’ll not end well, and to think some folk are gullible enough to think they are genuine asylum seekers. 

Maybe these Albanians in Horwich had the money and skills to move here and set up a better life for themselves and their families? You know, like Brit's who emigrate to Spain...