6 coppers to take him down or 1 member of the public with his bike? 
 

 

 

2 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

If legislation relating to breaching the peace is resulting in a de facto blasphemy law then the wording of the CJA 1998 needs to be reviewed because that was never the intention

Simply burning a religious text without any aggravating factors should not be a criminal offence in a liberal democracy

Whatever point he was making with the Isreali flag, it had no bearing on his arrest and charge

I agree re the flag. It’s just obvious he’s got another agenda. 

But is burning a religious text not aggravated? 
 

If I walked into a cathedral mid mass and said “this is what I think of your bible” & set fire to it, is that not stirring shit up? 
 

He’s tarnishing every follower of the Koran with the same brush. i don’t think he should be charged by the way. But I’m not overly worried by his arrest . Clearly burning a religious book, done a certain way could be seen as breach of the peace. Just not sure this is such.

Just now, royal white said:

I wonder if the seconds series will show other countries that many are coming from, the countries which some Brits pay thousands to visit every year. 

All misses the point anyway. 

We know why folk come from crime ridden, God forsaken shit holes.

We also know what effect it is having on our society and economy.

Such things are just an effort to continue to push the progressive attitudes onto the public, whilst not wanting to confront the elephants.

For a while the west tended to help remove dodgy regimes and was then criticised.

Some justified. Some not.

Once gone, the vacuum gets filled with tribal conflicts and the populous shoot and stab each other. Refugees want away.

Leave the countries to sort themselves out loads want away.

Can't win.

So simply stop allowing so many in.

4 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

I agree re the flag. It’s just obvious he’s got another agenda. 

But is burning a religious text not aggravated? 
 

If I walked into a cathedral mid mass and said “this is what I think of your bible” & set fire to it, is that not stirring shit up? 
 

He’s tarnishing every follower of the Koran with the same brush. i don’t think he should be charged by the way. But I’m not overly worried by his arrest . Clearly burning a religious book, done a certain way could be seen as breach of the peace. Just not sure this is such.

Simply burning a religious text in public should not be an aggravating feature, no

Walking into a cathedral during the middle of mass and burning a Bible would be an aggravating feature, as would standing outside a mosque and burning a Quran as worshippers enter 

Although I wouldn't personally burn a religious text of any faith, in no way should it be illegal for someone to chose to do simply that

24 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Simply burning a religious text in public should not be an aggravating feature, no

Walking into a cathedral during the middle of mass and burning a Bible would be an aggravating feature, as would standing outside a mosque and burning a Quran as worshippers enter 

Although I wouldn't personally burn a religious text of any faith, in no way should it be illegal for someone to chose to do simply that

sounds like he's done it deliberately to cause offence. Can't say I've any sympathy for him.

Take your point re blasphemy laws, but if he turned up on match day and set fire to e.g. Lofty's 58 cup final shirt he'd get a good kicking, and deservedly so.

1 hour ago, royal white said:

I wonder if the second series will show other countries that many are coming from, the countries which some Brits pay thousands to visit every year. 

Aye wonder if they picked Albania or Vietnam for this series?

17 minutes ago, wakey said:

Take your point re blasphemy laws, but if he turned up on match day and set fire to e.g. Lofty's 58 cup final shirt he'd get a good kicking, and deservedly so.

But he shouldn't (and in reality wouldn't) be charged for the offence caused

50 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

But he shouldn't (and in reality wouldn't) be charged for the offence caused

Maybe, not sure he wouldn't, especially if it resulted in a massive kick off.

Either way, the world would be a better place if folk didn't go round trying to make other folk angry.

7 minutes ago, wakey said:

Either way, the world would be a better place if folk didn't go round trying to make other folk angry.

I think it's possible to express contempt without deliberately wanting to anger people

It might anger people as a consequence but that's a different thing

2 hours ago, royal white said:

I wonder if the second series will show other countries that many are coming from, the countries which some Brits pay thousands to visit every year. 

No idea . 
just mentioned the show as it’s pertinent to the discussions on here with some of the people holding the same views as some posters and the same arguments made on it. 
I found it interesting,and bemusing  , was wondering if anyone else did but, apparently it’s made by communist 4 , deals with the wrong countries and everyone knows why everyone’s leaving anyway so I’m obviously behind the curve 😄

 

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15 hours ago, DazBob said:

Does it?

No mate. Nod back off. 'Wondering' might strain the likes of you.

11 hours ago, Zico said:

what conclusion did you come to?

That the drunken Midlander was an absolute cunt whichever way you slice it. The driver is grafting and earning a living so earns my respect.

You didn't expect that, did you?

The contrary cunt will choke on his organic muesli when he gets up and reads this. He was polishing up his 'R' word pistol (I suspect that pistol polishing is a big part of his existence).

The conclusion I reached was that the drunk was the instigator. Full stop.

7 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Channel 4 you say?

Move all the production team to Mogadishu. 

Or to the California wild fires.

A den of leftie vipers.

6 hours ago, royal white said:

I wonder if the second series will show other countries that many are coming from, the countries which some Brits pay thousands to visit every year. 

...or that master oppresser Albania. Must be shocking over there.

6 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

All misses the point anyway. 

We know why folk come from crime ridden, God forsaken shit holes.

We also know what effect it is having on our society and economy.

Such things are just an effort to continue to push the progressive attitudes onto the public, whilst not wanting to confront the elephants.

For a while the west tended to help remove dodgy regimes and was then criticised.

Some justified. Some not.

Once gone, the vacuum gets filled with tribal conflicts and the populous shoot and stab each other. Refugees want away.

Leave the countries to sort themselves out loads want away.

Can't win.

So simply stop allowing so many in.

Such common sense. Probably has no place on here.

8 hours ago, bolty58 said:

That the drunken Midlander was an absolute cunt whichever way you slice it. The driver is grafting and earning a living so earns my respect.

You didn't expect that, did you?

The contrary cunt will choke on his organic muesli when he gets up and reads this. He was polishing up his 'R' word pistol (I suspect that pistol polishing is a big part of his existence).

The conclusion I reached was that the drunk was the instigator. Full stop.

R is for Reasonable 

59 minutes ago, Zico said:

R is for Reasonable 

C is for Contrary. And Cunt.

24 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

C is for Contrary. And Cunt.

Challenging

23 hours ago, gonzo said:

Aye wonder if they picked Albania or Vietnam for this series?

Is nt the point that this about the ‘send them back home’ brigade. Albania and Vietnam both have return agreements in place. 

2 hours ago, Ani said:

Is nt the point that this about the ‘send them back home’ brigade. Albania and Vietnam both have return agreements in place. 

Suppose you have to find them first.

42 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Suppose you have to find them first.

Aye.

We can't ever have a returns agreement with everyone neither. As things stand.

 

 

I’d send etetee back to wales

Its all democratic ,all about the will of the people.

So we will just cancel those local elections , that we know we will lose.

Meanwhile in an African asylum state we cry out for elections

🫢

3 minutes ago, crawshawbooth said:

Its all democratic ,all about the will of the people.

So we will just cancel those local elections , that we know we will lose.

Meanwhile in an African asylum state we cry out for elections

🫢

I see you've been sucking on Nigel's teat and swallowing a bit too much. They've not been cancelled. They've been postponed because of changes to Council Authorities. It happens every time these types of changes are made.

Thank you so much for explaining it all to me.

Who is Nigel ?

Cancelled.