6 coppers to take him down or 1 member of the public with his bike? 
 

 

 

36 minutes ago, Spider said:

Mate

He needed utterly nuetralising. He had a backpack on as well I think.

Bottom line, those coppers have done everything right and those kicks could (and should) have been much harder.

How we think we'd like them to deal with it and how they have to do are two different things 

I think it sets a dangerous precedent when police are allowed to kick folk in the head 

The consequences for both parties can be serious 

But at the moment we don't have you can kick them in the head if you think they've done something nasty policy 

So I reckon they are in a spot of bother 

Some islamic cult place in Crewe  (Ahmadi religion of peace and light) was busted by 500 dibble this morning , arrests for rape , forced marriage and modern slavery made.

Anyway well done on neutralising him, if armed coppers were on the scene it could have been a different ending. However after watching the full video I’m a bit disappointed to see the old bill running away at first. On another note I think it’s time for all police to be armed or at least have one armed officer per patrol, anyone refusing should be given a desk job or speed camera duties. 

29 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

How we think we'd like them to deal with it and how they have to do are two different things 

I think it sets a dangerous precedent when police are allowed to kick folk in the head 

The consequences for both parties can be serious 

But at the moment we don't have you can kick them in the head if you think they've done something nasty policy 

So I reckon they are in a spot of bother 

They were kicking him in the head because he had hold of a knife and had Just committed a terrorist attack.

It was just a casual kicking with over zealous police. They were trying to control a terrorist by with whatever means necessary.

Have you done much anti terror training? 

You speak like he's just some random piss head that's being restrained.

He's an active terrorist with a knife in his hand wearing rucksack and had just attempted to murder the general public.

They were kicking him to make him release the knife and probably knock the lunatic concussed to control the situation.

 

3 minutes ago, gonzo said:

They were kicking him in the head because he had hold of a knife and had Just committed a terrorist attack.

It was just a casual kicking with over zealous police. They were trying to control a terrorist by with whatever means necessary.

Have you done much anti terror training? 

You speak like he's just some random piss head that's being restrained.

He's an active terrorist with a knife in his hand wearing rucksack and had just attempted to murder the general public.

They were kicking him to make him release the knife and probably knock the lunatic concussed to control the situation.

 

I find it hard to comprehend that some people find that hard to comprehend...... in the coppers shoes i would have been more worried about the rucksack than the fucking knife!!...... but lets just ask him politely to put the knife down shall we?

6 minutes ago, royal white said:

Anyway well done on neutralising him, if armed coppers were on the scene it could have been a different ending. However after watching the full video I’m a bit disappointed to see the old bill running away at first. On another note I think it’s time for all police to be armed or at least have one armed officer per patrol, anyone refusing should be given a desk job or speed camera duties. 

I thought that too but they then dealt with him so I wonder if they retreated to assess the situation and regroup which seems sensible but I am just guessing.

I understand the reluctance for all coppers to be armed but we do need more unfortunately.

26 minutes ago, burnden said:

Some islamic cult place in Crewe  (Ahmadi religion of peace and light) was busted by 500 dibble this morning , arrests for rape , forced marriage and modern slavery made.

Not a Muslim cult but still well worth the arrests and there'll be more to come hope fully.

 

1 minute ago, frank_spencer said:

Not a Muslim cult but still well worth the arrests and there'll be more to come hope fully.

 

They follow the quran and the five pillars of Islam

 

Regarding the police use of force it will all come down to was it 'reasonable, proportionate and necessary'. In this case I'd suggest they have nowt to worry about.

Edited April 29Apr 29 by Alf Hartigan
Regarding the Golders Green arrest.

6 minutes ago, frank_spencer said:

Not a Muslim cult but still well worth the arrests and there'll be more to come hope fully.

 

Based in Shia islam and second largest branch of islam with 10-20% of muslims worldwide according to Google. 

2 hours ago, Nowack said:

That would have been brilliant to be honest. 

not as good as seeing him finger his arse, like you do with a ferret 

1 hour ago, DirtySanchez said:

How we think we'd like them to deal with it and how they have to do are two different things 

I think it sets a dangerous precedent when police are allowed to kick folk in the head 

The consequences for both parties can be serious 

But at the moment we don't have you can kick them in the head if you think they've done something nasty policy 

So I reckon they are in a spot of bother 

Likely because of his size, the tasers hadn't properly neutralised him and also he still had a firm grip of the knife

He also had a backpack on, which  plausibly could've contained explosives

Given he was a clear risk to public safety and the tasers had already been utilised, what action do you suggest they should've taken to neutralise the threat?

1 minute ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Likely because of his size, the tasers hadn't properly neutralised him and also he still had a firm grip of the knife

He also had a backpack on, which  plausibly could've contained explosives

Given he was a clear risk to public safety and the tasers had already been utilised, what action do you suggest they should've taken to neutralise the threat?

finger his arse, like you would do a ferret

21 minutes ago, burnden said:

Based in Shia islam and second largest branch of islam with 10-20% of muslims worldwide according to Google. 

Just going off reports from Muslim reporters.

Based on teachings from Shia Islam and Christianity lead by a yank.

https://5pillarsuk.com/2026/04/29/police-raid-crewe-based-ahmadi-cult-exposed-by-5pillars/?fbclid=IwdGRjcARfMnZjbGNrBF8ySGV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDDM1MDY4NTUzMTcyOAABHhmzFJIkEEchu889bNhkADJ8_McKP-vn_m-RmLMSwgMsP41qutJjLIPQSKJB_aem_mYHuo0eujy0uH6NV6J5Fyw

1 hour ago, royal white said:

Anyway well done on neutralising him, if armed coppers were on the scene it could have been a different ending. However after watching the full video I’m a bit disappointed to see the old bill running away at first. On another note I think it’s time for all police to be armed or at least have one armed officer per patrol, anyone refusing should be given a desk job or speed camera duties. 

Proper multinational cult, not just your usual Islamic extremists

25 minutes ago, frank_spencer said:

Just going off reports from Muslim reporters.

Based on teachings from Shia Islam and Christianity lead by a yank.

https://5pillarsuk.com/2026/04/29/police-raid-crewe-based-ahmadi-cult-exposed-by-5pillars/?fbclid=IwdGRjcARfMnZjbGNrBF8ySGV4dG4DYWVtAjExAHNydGMGYXBwX2lkDDM1MDY4NTUzMTcyOAABHhmzFJIkEEchu889bNhkADJ8_McKP-vn_m-RmLMSwgMsP41qutJjLIPQSKJB_aem_mYHuo0eujy0uH6NV6J5Fyw

Hate to be all Bolty like but I'd think about your source on this matter tbf.

3 hours ago, DirtySanchez said:

Thing is the police don't want to be armed

Could be due to things fucking up and they're in the shit or they just have a sense of duty that they can do their job without them 

The reality is though in the modern world they can’t. Nobody is scared of police now. Lads running round with knives all over the gaff. Wheelies on their electric bikes weaving in and out of traffic. 

Police are just too small these days. Some of the ones who appear to deal with disturbances here are tiny. 

why anyone would do the job these days is beyond me. 

58 minutes ago, Alf Hartigan said:

Regarding the police use of force it will all come down to was it 'reasonable, proportionate and necessary'. In this case I'd suggest they have nowt to worry about.

I don't think it was proportionate.......they should have kicked his head into a mush.

17 minutes ago, bolton va va said:

I don't think it was proportionate.......they should have kicked his head into a mush.

As far as I'm aware, the officers from the airport incident haven't been charged with anything. 

Given that this mon had stabbed folk, and was coming at officers with a knife, I'd be very surprised if they were subject to any disciplinary proceedings.

1 hour ago, Alf Hartigan said:

Regarding the police use of force it will all come down to was it 'reasonable, proportionate and necessary'. In this case I'd suggest they have nowt to worry about.

 

4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

As far as I'm aware, the officers from the airport incident haven't been charged with anything. 

Given that this mon had stabbed folk, and was coming at officers with a knife, I'd be very surprised if they were subject to any disciplinary proceedings.

With the modern world there will need some checks etc. they can’t just say it’s fine without a discussion as that’s the world we live in. 
 

as mentioned previously this was a terror attack with an armed lunatic. It should be police with guns responding. I accept heavy handed can be bad but I think that’s it’s worse to end up having an enquiry discussing points where it could have been stopped 

5 minutes ago, Big E said:

 

With the modern world there will need some checks etc. they can’t just say it’s fine without a discussion as that’s the world we live in. 
 

as mentioned previously this was a terror attack with an armed lunatic. It should be police with guns responding. I accept heavy handed can be bad but I think that’s it’s worse to end up having an enquiry discussing points where it could have been stopped 

I thought the airport police officer who did the main kick when the cunt was on the floor could have been in trouble, but no way will the Golders Green cops be in trouble. Don't get me wrong they will face an investigation into but would be amazed if owt comes of it. All the officers involved will be suspended whilst the investigation into them is carried out. I don't know what happened with the airport officer btw.

2 hours ago, DirtySanchez said:

How we think we'd like them to deal with it and how they have to do are two different things 

I think it sets a dangerous precedent when police are allowed to kick folk in the head 

The consequences for both parties can be serious 

But at the moment we don't have you can kick them in the head if you think they've done something nasty policy 

So I reckon they are in a spot of bother 

It’s a fucking terror attack lad

 what were you hoping for?

a nice deescalation chat & a slice of baclava ? 

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

Hate to be all Bolty like but I'd think about your source on this matter tbf.

No doubting they took inspiration from islam along with other religions but labeling them a Muslim/islamic cult is just as factual as labelling The Manson Family as a Christian cult.

 

10 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

It’s a fucking terror attack lad

 what were you hoping for?

a nice deescalation chat & a slice of baclava ? 

Tackling a shoplifter like that would be cause for concern but after what he's done a few boots to the noggin seem minor.

1 minute ago, frank_spencer said:

No doubting they took inspiration from islam along with other religions but labeling them a Muslim/islamic cult is just as factual as labelling The Manson Family as a Christian cult.

The Manson Family WAS a Christian cult. Unless you think there's one definitive version of Christianity, and anyone who follows a different one is wrong?