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Went today.  Fanzone was great.  Beers and food lovely.  Then the novelty of buying a beer and taking it on to the terraces was awesome.  Game? Meh.  It'll never catch on. Zero atmosphere as body builders all barge each other about a bit for a go on the egg. Not for me 

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6 hours ago, Big E said:

Really poor marketing, no posters hardly anywhere. 
 

tickets are ridiculous. Last World Cup they were £10 now they are about £40 in most stands. Just not sustainable for a northern sport. A bloke I know from Widnes did about 8 matches last time with his 3 kids but now the same would be over £100 a game. Last time it was about £25 

A world cup shouldn't need marketing  

Not sure doing so would fill the grounds 

Seems like they've decided to try and milk the hardcore fans with the prices 

Posted
16 minutes ago, Zico said:

A world cup shouldn't need marketing  

Not sure doing so would fill the grounds 

Seems like they've decided to try and milk the hardcore fans with the prices 

Why does the football world Cup get so much then?

If non RL folk don't know about it, they're less likely to pop along out of curiosity. 

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6 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Why does the football world Cup get so much then?

If non RL folk don't know about it, they're less likely to pop along out of curiosity. 

Because it's popular and lots of people are watching it, so everyone wants to cash in  

I'd go so far as saying the actual WC isn't marketed that much at all, but lots of other things are done so off the back of it 

RL just isn't a big draw, anyone who likes it is going if the price is right

I caught some of the Australia v Scotland game at Coventry, there was barely anyone there, no amount of marketing was getting day trippers in if the prices are daft 

Posted
18 minutes ago, royal white said:

I might be wrong but Rugby league attendance's at club level seem to be a lot better than Rugby union yet when it comes to the national sides it’s reversed.  

That's mostly to do with rugby league starting as a collection of clubs in the north when it split from rugby union. 

It didn't have the infrastructure or the influence that rugby union had in other countries and the rugby union authorities would never allow it to spread like rugby union did.

Rugby union was "amateur" until 1995, which is probably why the focus in that sport is on the international teams.

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Zico said:

Because it's popular and lots of people are watching it, so everyone wants to cash in  

I'd go so far as saying the actual WC isn't marketed that much at all, but lots of other things are done so off the back of it 

RL just isn't a big draw, anyone who likes it is going if the price is right

I caught some of the Australia v Scotland game at Coventry, there was barely anyone there, no amount of marketing was getting day trippers in if the prices are daft 

It was always going to be a shite attendance in Coventry as nobody that isn't a stone's throw from the M62 gives a shit about Rugby League.

RL is England's shinty.

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Think the rugby union premiership averages 50% more than super league across the board but might be wrong.

Union in our part of the world had the 5 nations as competitive international fixtures every year without even thinking about tours so it was always front and centre for them.

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33 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

That's mostly to do with rugby league starting as a collection of clubs in the north when it split from rugby union. 

It didn't have the infrastructure or the influence that rugby union had in other countries and the rugby union authorities would never allow it to spread like rugby union did.

Rugby union was "amateur" until 1995, which is probably why the focus in that sport is on the international teams.

 

In one. 

13 minutes ago, DazBob said:

It was always going to be a shite attendance in Coventry as nobody that isn't a stone's throw from the M62 gives a shit about Rugby League.

RL is England's shinty.

Seemed there were quite a few RU types at the game last night tbf. That area is a weird one as RU is their RL if that makes sense, followed by plenty of working class types in Coventry/Leicester/Northampton etc.

Shinty is an extreme comparison though. Not even close to a fraction of RL’s footprint. Gaelic Football is the worthwhile comparison you’re looking for.

11 minutes ago, ErnestTurnip said:

Think the rugby union premiership averages 50% more than super league across the board but might be wrong.

Union in our part of the world had the 5 nations as competitive international fixtures every year without even thinking about tours so it was always front and centre for them.

Nowhere near 50% more. Their hardcore areas are comfortably in the south west and midlands with poorly supported outposts elsewhere. No different to RL with Lancashire/Yorkshire in that case. On the whole crowds are pretty similar but the likes of Leicester and the several Twickers jamborees massively drag the average up. 

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17 minutes ago, DazBob said:

It was always going to be a shite attendance in Coventry as nobody that isn't a stone's throw from the M62 gives a shit about Rugby League.

RL is England's shinty.

Went down a shiny rabbit hole the other week. There used to be a shinty club in Bolton. Bolton Caledonians if memory serves

And rugby, both codes, has always been a game for fat lads who are shit at football.

Quite like watching it though.

Posted
29 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Went down a shiny rabbit hole the other week. There used to be a shinty club in Bolton. Bolton Caledonians if memory serves

And rugby, both codes, has always been a game for fat lads who are shit at football.

Quite like watching it though.

I’ve always wondered why there’s not a professional side from Bolton. 
 

I was listening to Jamie moore (boxer) talking to Adrian Morley (rugby league) a few months back about injuries, a rugby player being tackled at full force is equivalent to car crash. Some players are taking over 20 big hits a game! Not as bad as those football injuries from heading a ball though 🙄

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Honestly have no idea, not sure that gets factored into average attendances though.

A lot of them are struggling, if Leeds reported a loss of 2.5million for their last accounting period then they won't be on their own.

I'm pro RL and always have been, not sure I've ever been pro the way it's been run or marketed although there must have been some good bits of administration over my lifetime.

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Posted
42 minutes ago, royal white said:

I’ve always wondered why there’s not a professional side from Bolton. 
 

I was listening to Jamie moore (boxer) talking to Adrian Morley (rugby league) a few months back about injuries, a rugby player being tackled at full force is equivalent to car crash. Some players are taking over 20 big hits a game! Not as bad as those football injuries from heading a ball though 🙄

 

Aye, it's fecking brutal.

If you look at the RL towns this side of the pennines, historically they didn't a league football club. It was like the two couldn't exist side by side. 

 

 

 

Posted
11 hours ago, L/H White said:

Been tonight.

Thought the attendance looked decent tbh.

Screen erected in the corner of the North / West stand that looked decent 

Beer in seats which was weird 

Glad you enjoyed it pal

Were the seats ok? 

Posted
2 hours ago, desperado said:

Glad you enjoyed it pal

Were the seats ok? 

front row :D thanks again

1 hour ago, radcliffe white said:

Forget the rugby 

our pitch be fine for Tuesday?

absolutely

Posted

We were offered 4 "premium seats" free of charge for the semi final at The Emirates Stadium last night. Its on Saturday 12th November, so they're certainly dragging this tournament out. 

I'd have gone, but my other mates said they'd rather not, so we turned them down. 

The bloke offering this tickets said he's been trying to get rid of them all week and is struggling a bit. 

I'm not sure why they think having a semi final in London is a good idea, surely having it in somewhere like Wigan, Widnes or Hull would be better would it not? 

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I think RL is wasting its time trying to expand into areas like the midlands and the south. Focus on the areas that follow it and invest there instead, strengthen what they have.

The attendance at Coventry proves what a dead horse they’re flogging.

Maybe try and push into places like Bolton, which could probably muster a pro setup

Posted
5 minutes ago, Sweep said:

We were offered 4 "premium seats" free of charge for the semi final at The Emirates Stadium last night. Its on Saturday 12th November, so they're certainly dragging this tournament out. 

I'd have gone, but my other mates said they'd rather not, so we turned them down. 

The bloke offering this tickets said he's been trying to get rid of them all week and is struggling a bit. 

I'm not sure why they think having a semi final in London is a good idea, surely having it in somewhere like Wigan, Widnes or Hull would be better would it not? 

Pretty simple. Minority sports aren't generally great organisers. Look at the farce in the deck quoits.

Posted
2 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Pretty simple. Minority sports aren't generally great organisers. Look at the farce in the deck quoits.

Wasps and Worcester are hardly a great image for RU if it's supposedly so popular 

Posted
3 hours ago, Sweep said:

We were offered 4 "premium seats" free of charge for the semi final at The Emirates Stadium last night. Its on Saturday 12th November, so they're certainly dragging this tournament out. 

I'd have gone, but my other mates said they'd rather not, so we turned them down. 

The bloke offering this tickets said he's been trying to get rid of them all week and is struggling a bit. 

I'm not sure why they think having a semi final in London is a good idea, surely having it in somewhere like Wigan, Widnes or Hull would be better would it not? 

They sell more tickets for London semi-finals/finals.

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