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6 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Oh another remainer attempting to defend a remainer. What a surprise! In the end he had to concede there was and is a deadline, no doubt  you will agree I got to the truth in the end. 

I’m not sure what concession you think I made. See my post a moment ago.

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1 hour ago, Casino said:

Daily express you say...hmmm

Could he not justve gone to the local nick?

As for yon Mon you mentioned, like I said, I don't care what side they are on

Cunts are cunts, drown all of em

Listen fella.....loads knew of his impending arrest warrant being issued the other night, I’m one of them.

Dont try and be a smart arse slating the Daily Express when you know fuck all about it....

As I said to Micky D, DM a throwaway email address and I’ll show you proof of his impending arrest.

 

Other than belt...just belt up for once on a subject you know nothing about.

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11 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Other than belt...just belt up for once on a subject you know nothing about.

Yeah belt up Casino you red wine bummer

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1 hour ago, Salford Trotter said:

 

At last the truth...

The mans a tin foil hat  big time. Clown to boot. 

Edited by Mounts Kipper

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Just now, Mounts Kipper said:

The mans a tin foil hat  big time. Clown to boot. 

I'd put him second to Diane Abbott in the bigest fucking idiot in the Labour Party awards, he's obsessed with colonialism, it's 2019 he's too late

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Just now, Widnes Two Hats said:

I'd put him second to Diane Abbott in the bigest fucking idiot in the Labour Party awards, he's obsessed with colonialism, it's 2019 he's too late

He has to appease the muppets in his constituency, where muppets abound and he’s the muppet master. 

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4 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

He has to appease the muppets in his constituency, where muppets abound and he’s the muppet master. 

Insightful stuff.

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30 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Listen fella.....loads knew of his impending arrest warrant being issued the other night, I’m one of them.

Dont try and be a smart arse slating the Daily Express when you know fuck all about it....

As I said to Micky D, DM a throwaway email address and I’ll show you proof of his impending arrest.

 

Other than belt...just belt up for once on a subject you know nothing about.

Been on the booze again?

 

Fishing rod twitching.

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25 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said:

So, a few points (I feel like i’m writing one of Ken’s blogs):

 

1. “The EU will make it difficult to leave the EU”. Of course they will. Why would they want a non-EU member to have a better deal than an EU member? This approach was known from the outset, so nothing new here - unless you were ignoring the obvious.

 

2. The timeframe set out by triggering Article 50 is not designed to create pressure, it is there to give certainty. A member state can’t say “I’m going to leave” and then never get round to leaving. You’re no doubt familiar with commercial contracts from your job, where long-stop dates are common. The two-year period is a long-stop, which also allows time to negotiate an exit deal.

 

3. The UK agreed to the text of the Lisbon Treaty. Article 50 is therefore not some new timeframe imposed unilaterally once we voted to leave. The suggestion this is an EU trap is absurd. The UK agreed to this timeframe in 2007 when it accepted the text of the Treaty.

 

4. Theresa May chose when to invoke article 50 and was aware of the two year time period when she did so. If she wasn’t ready to start the clock ticking, she shouldn’t have invoked article 50.

 

5. A remainiac PM isn’t ideal, but as previously discussed above, the Civil Service is not remain - it acts for the Government from time to time. Negotiations have been dealt under David Davis and Doninic Raab, both Brexiteers, so the suggestion this is solely as a result of remainers’ sabotage is ridiculous.

 

6. You seem to be suggesting that the blame for the UK population being poorer following the Brexit vote lies with the remainers. Even for you, that is really special.

 

7. If you agree we will need to go back to the EU in the future for further discussion, surely that is good reason to delay the exit by 9-12 months and do the negotiating now?

In point 2 you imply a ‘long stop’ for the benifet of certainty but then in point 7 you advocate extending the negotiation by 9-12 months?

In point 5 you try to absolve the Civil Service from trying too sabotage the process but that is exactly why Davies and Rabb resigned, Olly Robbins, senior Civil Servant, along with TM were negotiating secretly behind the backs of the appointed Brexit Ministers, surely they could not have done that on their own without back up, the Chequers agreement was a complete turnaround from previous speeches. If you want to blame TM for ordering Robbins to carry out her wishes see point 6

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1 hour ago, Moon boy said:

In point 2 you imply a ‘long stop’ for the benifet of certainty but then in point 7 you advocate extending the negotiation by 9-12 months?

In point 5 you try to absolve the Civil Service from trying too sabotage the process but that is exactly why Davies and Rabb resigned, Olly Robbins, senior Civil Servant, along with TM were negotiating secretly behind the backs of the appointed Brexit Ministers, surely they could not have done that on their own without back up, the Chequers agreement was a complete turnaround from previous speeches. If you want to blame TM for ordering Robbins to carry out her wishes see point 6

The long stop is 29 March. That is fixed and can only be varied by agreement. Any extension would be us going back to the EU cap in hand to seek a variation of the agreed date, because the Government is unable to get its shit together. 

 

I’ve not said anything about absolving the Civil Service from blame. I’ve said (a) the Civil Service is not a group of remainers acting to sabotage. They act under the instructions of the Government  from time to time and (b) this is not solely the result of remainers sabotage, as you seem to suggest.

 

As for point 6, I restate my point. The suggestion that remainers are actually the ones to blame for the negative effects of voting leave is farcical.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Jol_BWFC said:

Been on the booze again?

 

Fishing rod twitching.

Unfortunately not, I’m on antibiotics 

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On 11/01/2019 at 09:12, bwfcfan5 said:

So, someone pitches up in Ireland for a few hours then decides to travel across the border into NI on one of the 200 plus road border crossings. How do you stop them? Same for goods.

If you don't stop them then the same arrangements have to be put in place in Dover and elsewhere. 

What's stopping them from doing that currently?

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Just now, tkonion said:

What's stopping them from doing that currently?

Nothing but we’re currently both EU members. 

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1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Nothing but we’re currently both EU members. 

If you read Bwfcfan5's post he's saying that after brexit an 'open or soft border would be a way for illegals from outside the ROI to enter the Uk. That's the way I interpret his post in any case.

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I see the yellow vests in France been demonstrating again today against the EU poster boy Macron, plenty of videos of them stamping all over the EU flag, while we’ve got dipisticks over here waving it around. 

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12 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I see the yellow vests in France been demonstrating again today against the EU poster boy Macron, plenty of videos of them stamping all over the EU flag, while we’ve got dipisticks over here waving it around. 

Ninth week on the trot now, they’re certainly not going away.

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We see them most days in the valley, they have sprayed all the speed cameras lenses and keep lifting the barriers at the tolls. Most of the people in France hate Macron and want him out his wife has gone very quiet not been seen in public for ages.

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1 hour ago, Nobster said:

We see them most days in the valley, they have sprayed all the speed cameras lenses and keep lifting the barriers at the tolls. Most of the people in France hate Macron and want him out his wife has gone very quiet not been seen in public for ages.

Are they a cross section of French people or aligned to left or right? 

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1 hour ago, Nobster said:

We see them most days in the valley, they have sprayed all the speed cameras lenses and keep lifting the barriers at the tolls. Most of the people in France hate Macron and want him out his wife has gone very quiet not been seen in public for ages.

Aye, it’s all gone tits up for Macron hasn’t it ?

The folk have seen the light with him. Who’s the most realistic candidate to take over when he goes ?

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2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Are they a cross section of French people or aligned to left or right? 

Seems to be a cross section to me mate, but Nobster will know better.

Watching sky yesterday, they were doing a decent stream of footage,then once the water cannons were turned onto folk the presenter promptly came on and shied away from it.

Pathetic isn’t it how the MSM try to divert attention from the failing EU ?

Yesterday is a prime example.....thousands and thousands marching in Paris against the establishment, yet they choose to run the main headline as that plantpot James Goddard being arrested, naming.and shaming him before he’s even in the plod shop.

Surely,that would jeopardise any future court proceedings ?

Funny how those biased channels don’t give the same overage to other”activists”

Good to see folk have woken up to the corrupt nature of the elite and globalists.

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1 hour ago, miamiwhite said:

Good to see folk have woken up to the corrupt nature of the elite and globalists.

 

Edited by kent_white
My picture of David Icke on Wogan's couch won't attach as I've gone over my 1kb annual allowance! :)

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Spent 3 days In Germany this week and spoke mainly to immigrant taxi drivers and all said they want out of the EU, said the growing public opinion is going that way. 

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1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Are they a cross section of French people or aligned to left or right? 

A cross section, we have a lot of French friends over here from all walks of life and they all detest Macron. Whenever we see the yellow vests at the tolls there are no other political slogans or banners just a group united in ousting Macron, the revenue they are losing from tolls and speeding fines alone must be significant and the protests are getting larger every week even in the smallest cities.

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