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Jesus! 185g of fat is equivalent to nearly 3/4 block of butter. Hats off! WTF is the "trash can challenge" at 4453 kcals and 239g fat?

I would not write them off so soon. There are a lot of disenfranchised labour voters out there with nowhere to turn. The current attitude and shady actions of Bolton labour council are not isolated (see the New Den land sale fiasco). Ukip seem to be the only party trying to take them to task whilst the the lib dems and greens simply want to reverse Brexit.

Aye, I read an article that said all football fans were frogmarched past Westfield after games. There is some sort of crowd control that herds fans well away from the ground.

Are not the pubs a couple of mile away from the taxpayers stadium though?

Thing is though in that neck of the woods a much larger proportion of police officers are asian. Seen loads in Huddersfield, Bradford and Leeds.

Done both Manchester 10K on numerous occasions as well as the GNR. Managed 1:55 in 2013 at the ripe old age of 53. Was pretty bulked out at the time at 14.5 stone so was amazed but it was one of those good rare days. Best was Nottingham in 1:38 back in 1999 when I was 39. Manchester is a great event but we've always had start line passes for both that and the GNR. They set you off in 4 waves with 40 mins wait in between. For some strange reason both events seem to suffer from unseasonably warm days. Not sure about a PB course as most people misjudge that the first third which up hill. The GNR is one of the hardest half I have ever done as you run uphill towards the sea from mile 7.5 until 11.5, then the downhill to the shore is so steep and short you cannot regain lost time.

I often find amusement reading the SWP and their slant of world and home events. There is a comforting style of writing somewhat reminisce of the old Pravda. I find little change in style between the various writers and contributors and it makes me think that there is some sort of SWP literary/media course somewhere. I also wonder how these numerous authors treat the police in their own lives when they, their relatives or friends are burgled, mugged or have a car or other accident. I wonder if they stick by their values and turn down any help?

A retort from a German news outlet below. But my own view is that its a flavour of how the German media are trying to play down what is happening there. There are various explanations or "excuses" for the middle eastern men in that square. It emphasises the point that there were some families in the square as well and asserts the arabic men didn't "deliberately" set fire to the church, its just that one of the fireworks they were throwing at the police was mis-directed and set some scaffolding alight...............So thats ok then and the fact that they were shoutiing "allahu akbar" at the top of the voices should not alarm anyone as its quite normal behaviour, just like saying Amen in church. https://www.thelocal.de/20170105/german-media-blasts-misleading-breitbart-reports-of-violence-on-new-years

Don't we have to under EU rules? Freedom of movement is fucking bonkers.

Fraid not. They come with usb charger lead and plug, and two 3.5mm headphone cables, one with an inline mic/volume control. TBH I think no headphones would come with a blue tooth adapter.

9 years in fact. One of the first cases of doping. The entire German team were injected with amphetamines for that final. Hungary had battered everyone up until that final. http://www.youtu.be/bfjxgT6SDYk

I have never claimed that JP on its own will make you lose weight. You are being silly now. You well know that only a long term calorie deficit can do that. However, "some" people find taking a juice plus shake made with 250ml skimmed milk and a handful of frozen fruit is a very appetising meal replacement. As it contains many vitamins, trace elements, minerals etc. people find it a good way say to replace their previous 500 - 700 kcal lunch with something that completely satiates them at 200 kcal and probably provides more nutrients than their previous burger or off the shelf sandwich. As for the peer reviewed studies they show that taking supplements in this form has been proven to lead to health benefits in . Juice plus is what they describe generically as "juice concentrate" as stated in the one below for example. I am simply trying to say that its health benefits are not complete bullshit, as I thought they were when I first came across it. In fact the majority of my wifes customers are repeat buyers who do not actually use it for weight loss. https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/british-journal-of-nutrition/article/div-classtitlereduction-of-common-cold-symptoms-by-encapsulated-juice-powder-concentrate-of-fruits-and-vegetables-a-randomised-double-blind-placebo-controlled-trialdiv/4E3A02A6D1E0EF0A17D0043394E843C4 The last word I will say on this is that I am astounded at the number of people who put so much faith in the nutritional advice of "the bloke who runs the gym". Nearly all my lecturers and fellow dietitian students at Leeds Beckett attended some gym or another and we used to regularly swap tales of the ignorance passed on by these fellas as "sound advice". These varied from such things as "carbs weight for weight make you put on lbs than protein or fat", "you can only get all essential amino acids from meat" or "it don't matter if this whey protein does not give you all your 9 essential amino acids as the body itself does that".

Pray tell Gonz which bit you think I cut and pasted? The links are to peer reviewed research. I have no agenda but you seem to have one that says anyone who doesn't do it your way is wrong. Yes there is no substitute for a healthy balanced diet. But you are living in la la land trying to get the nation to go out and eat a balanced healthy diet. Below is the Eatwell plate that Dietitians have to promote in their work, trying to get Joe public to follow this has completely failed. The NHS has been promoting eating a balanced healthy diet that for the last 25 years yet as a nation we are growing more unhealthy. I am trying to say that juice plus is supplementation plain and simple and there is definite evidence that it has helped thousands of people. Dietitians will soon be able to prescribe supplements rather than writing out prescriptions that doctors simply sign. Supplementation of minerals, vitamins, enzymes and some precursors of co-factors have been prescribed by doctors for years.

Spot on!

Pt's and gym instructors and nutritionists health professionals? : :! Actually Cavendish and other athletes regularly drink specially prepared shakes and juices. wtf do you think they always cite the prep company when something appears in their urine tests?

No, I don't but my wife does. She has hundreds of happy customers who are ordinary people who have been helped and she has hundreds of genuine and remarkable testimonials. But yours and Gonzo's comments sound so familiar coming from red blooded males between 18 and 50 who have been gym bunnies most of their lives who tend to ignore that over 80% of the population never go near one or don't know where to start. Many overweight middle aged women would never entertain or know how to " go on a proper diet and train hard" as do people with joint problems or other ailments. My wife got into it 3 years ago and at the time I thought it was a ponzi scheme, nothing could be further from the truth as I soon discovered when I researched it. To become a seller of the product costs a joining fee of just over £50 which my wife recouped within 2 weeks. No stock is bought. The proper term is " Multi level Network Marketing" but its not a ponzi scheme as no money is passed up from any individual. My wife sells by using all methods of modern communication to advertise the product. There are no "pressure sales" and anyone wishing to return unused product gets a full refund. I also never believed that taking veg, fruit and berry capsules could do anything but after seeing the results on people I knew personally as well I did a trial myself and will admit that I was surprised at some of the effects. There are several peer reviewed papers on studies as to its effect of various aspects of this and I have added the link below. (Note: This is a juice plus page though clicking onto the links of the various studies/papers takes you to them) The product is not solely as a weight reduction product but as something that is a way to obtaining some of vital vitamins, minerals and enzymes one gets from eating fruit and veg on a regular basis. A large proportion of the population are over fed and under nourished because they cannot or won't (for many reasons) eat fruit and veg. This product is one way of supplementing that loss to some degree. In addition juice plus support when properly managed by the juice plus rep (as my wife does) gives advice of healthy eating, balanced diets and promotes the increase in cooking and eating fresh veg. As a former health professional trainee we where taught not to dismiss out of hand anything that works for an individual. http://www.juiceplus.com/us/en/clinical-research/published-medical-and-scientific-journals

Put a couple of stone on in the last 2 years. All down to booze. Back to logging on my fitness pal and trying to cut out the booze for a few month should do the trick. Having been around this industry for the last few years this book has some common sense and some great recipes and tips for those who want to eat lots of veg but find it boring. He is a medical professional who lost 6 stone himself 6 years ago and talks some common sense and keeps it simple. The Hairy Dieters books are also good as they also use ingredients that are available in any supermarket. https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/cka/How-Lose-Weight-Well-weight-forever-healthy/1849499519

You could not be more wrong on this one Gonzo if you tried.

Good to see that Friends of the Earth have been "called out" over their hysterical claims: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jan/04/friends-of-earth-ticked-off-claims-anti-fracking-leaflet#comment-90471512

I think getting rid of replays is long overdue.

Sounds like the German police have re-discovered their common sense.

Tried quite a few blue tooth ones last year, sent several pairs back before settling for these. Also bought the daughter a pair last August and she loves em. Charge lasts a long time too. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Azatom-Freedom-PRO-HE7-Professional-High-Definition/dp/B012NN7MNO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1483438401&sr=8-1&keywords=Azatom+®+Freedom+®+PRO-HE7

not for long 1-1

Aye, did ours for boxing day. 2-4.

Jack Reacher 2. 7/10 enjoyed it but plot not as good as first. The Light Between Oceans 7/10. The wife was a blubbering wreck at the end. One for the ladies me thinks.