TM Trotter

It's a really great thread this. This spread of memories, from different people at different ages - all remembering these split-second moments in time when a club from a pretty deprived northern mill town stuck two fingers up to the world. Reads like this make you remember why you put in the hours, the miles, the money. It's a collective love letter to BWFC. Just seen a couple of kids (12, 13 ish) walk past, in City shirts. For all the trophies their choice of multi-national brand have won and will inevitably win... they'll never *really* get to experience this.

0-0 v Coventry was mentioned and I'd almost forgotten how important that game was in my personal Wanderers journey. I'd lapsed a little bit in the previous couple of seasons, but the lead up to that game (which doesn't need revisiting) meant I'd have sold my mum to see us for just one last time. The whole situation was so dark, we had a fanbase who were genuinely talking about watching Colls or sofa shopping on Saturdays. Seeing the kids sweating their all for the badge and getting a result, was, for me, as spine-tingling as Forest, as seeing us win an actual trophy v Plymouth, or staying up late on a school night to watch us get a late draw at Munich on Channel 5.

Looking at their squad, it's probably more through necessity than choice. 19 players on the wikipedia squad list, compared to our 29...

Also good for Scrabble. Would get you 68 points including a 50pt bonus for using all seven tiles. And if you get it on a triple word score - well, that's maths beyond even the FFP accountants at Chelsea 🙃

Haaaaaaa!!!

Bring out the inflatable Victorian Plumbing bath in front of the ESL then?

Let's find out 😬

Coward's "tackle". And Evatt gets a booking for protesting - a joke.

Lovely goal!

Boiling my piss.

Drab half. Well done to anyone who's turned out in the rain for that. Genuinely - at least you've not had to listen to this dour commentary!

Wouldn't mind us having a little go at the LC. Not to the detriment of the league of course, but I hope there's still a strong enough side to progress against Mansfield, who will probably make a few changes of their own. Am I right in thinking the PL sides not in Europe join in the next round, and there are no replays? Would fancy us at home to a slightly weakened Everton or Wolves for example - should we get there! Sack the Papa John's off though.

Tell that whopper at Wrexham 😁

So: - Some kind of terror-linked horror may take place on UK soil - May be committed by someone who doesn't have ancestry reaching back to Tudor England - May happen in an unspecified period of time. Under the vague statistical parameters your post inferred, you're probably right. I wouldn't bother taking it to the bookies though, the payout will be shite. Deport all the Muslims, just in case! While we're at it, better look at getting shut of those sneaky Irish too...

Not an insult. Just an observation.

That would be a real knock back down to earth... but it kinda makes sense. I can see us accepting an offer pushing £2m, which would be a hell of a turn of profit, and pretty much exemplifies the model we're working to. Especially when we know Rovers would have plenty of money to spend (theyve just turned down £6m for Szmodics). It would also pay for much of our business done so far. I love the idea of having 4 good strikers for the division (+ Dan!) but that's surely us being super wishful. Although, as Swanny says above, he's probably not our best any more. Collins has looked great, and while I don't know much about McAtee, he's our first 7-figure signing in how long (since Spearing?!)... he's not a benchwarmer. Even Vic started to show his worth back end of last year.

For a fleeting second, that did enter my head, but I then genuinely thought, "nah, surely nobody is *that* unhinged." Jesus Christ. Or should that be "Allah"?

What on earth are you talking about?

I wish I had that level of influence with the rioting knobheads of my generation. Sadly, as a lefty snowflake who doesn't believe Islam is the root of every issue in our society, I feel I'd be pissing in the wind 😊

Basically this. I'm a millennial. I won't be getting a state pension til my late 70s, hurrah! I'm relying upon wave upon wave of migrants from Albania, Bangladesh, Vietnam and Mozambique to prop up our economy for the next 40 years so I can claim my free bus pass 👍

I didn't use boomers as a pejorative fella - it's a genuine economic issue that's only just beginning to bite. Hell of a lot of people needing pensions, far more than ever before due to the population spike, and without immigration, there's not the workforce to fund it. ------- From the point of the UK, immigration *was* being controlled rather well. I went stats hunting, and found this: https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/statistics-relating-to-the-illegal-migration-bill Within the most recent spreadsheet, there's a record of the numbers of migrants detected crossing the Channel on small boats. I've included a screen grab, which shows the point when the numbers of migrants really escalates. An average of about 300 people a quarter in 2018 and 2019 suddenly becomes a whopping 2,028 in Q2 2020. Two things happened in the lead up to those stats: Covid lockdown and Brexit. We could perhaps attribute the former to some of this (reduced policing in France, for example), but take a look at how the numbers rise even more dramatically as Covid restrictions start to ease (mid to late 2021)... leaving our European neighbours to wave through thousands and thousands of people desperate for a better life. Under the EU, the British border was essentially on the beaches of Northern France. The safety net the UK had, the obligation for EU countries to not allow migrants to move on to other EU countries, has gone away, and boy, how the people-traffickers have taken advantage. I'd love to see a Venn diagram of the most passionately vocal people in favour of "stopping the boats", overlaid with people who voted to Leave. The sad irony is, it wouldn't shock me if the diagram was a great big letter O. Britons were lied to.

I back immigration, and anyone with a basic understanding of economics should. Someone needs to work to fund the baby boomers' black hole pension pot, the NHS, social care, etc. And we've got a decreasing birth rate - even with stats including births of people who have immigrated here. Someone needs to backfill the underpaid menial jobs that our capitalist society demands. British people don't want them, and Europeans can't get them because of Brexit. See: fruit picking, abattoir work, as an example. Someone needs to backfill the skilled jobs that British people are leaving as countries like Australia, Canada, New Zealand and those in the EU will pay much more. See: doctors, engineers. Revisit the (government figures sourced) tweet Cheese posted. Processing asylum claims properly would enable those with genuine need to stay here, pay tax, and contribute to the economy. Letting them stay in limbo does nothing for the economy, and simply serves to drive a wedge in society. It's a political choice made by those in power the past 14 years. Meanwhile you have groups blaming Starmer for the whole shitshow over the past week, while those same people say "this has been building for years". And they don't see the link.

I'm mostly curious why Casino calling them "daft cunts" just wasn't enough for Mounts. It's a passing comment, a fair enough one - but he's leapt on it. Pretty foul behaviour, for certain, but come on, it's the behaviour like you see from yoof on away days across the country. Pathetic billy big'uns trying to look hard in front of their mates. See, if I were going to suggest someone upgraded a description to include the word "scum", I'd reserve it for mobs of people who pull strangers out of cars and beat them up because of their skin colour, or try to set fire to hotels with people stuck inside due to the baying crowd surrounding them. Or maybe that's the kind of thing daft cunts do?

"Scum" based on what - expressing a political opinion, loitering in groups, wearing masks and criticising the media? Even a naughty word or two on camera, oh my! At its most base, (and ignoring for one second the arson attacks, the looting, the kicking Asian women in the face), isn't that exactly what the beered-up gammons in Our Tommy's cult have been doing all weekend? So go on, why are the people in this particular video "scum"? Be honest.

It might have been said on here before - but i get the impression bringing in Arfield is to help with exactly this. I could be wrong, he might be completely spineless. But I see the logic in getting an experienced, vocal presence who can actually play (sorry Cameron, that was never you).