Jol_BWFC Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Just now, Casino said: i think he means me daft twat surprised hes not on strike No, I was referring to Sweep rather than you. Not On strike, I’m in the private sector. 2 minutes ago, Sweep said: don't be silly Bedfordshire’s number 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 24 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said: I’ve always known a half volley as when you strike the ball immediately after it hits the ground. This is correct otherwise every shot in tennis would be a half volley. Which it isnt. Ball needs be moving upward immediately after hitting the floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 6, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 minute ago, gonzo said: This is correct otherwise every shot in tennis would be a half volley. Which it isnt. Ball needs be moving upward immediately after hitting the floor. Don't think the direction of the ball matters, does it? If it bounces and you hit it as it comes back down, it's still a half volley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Di-canio and Rivaldos were bicycle kicks as the motion is the same as riding a bicycle in and facing forward position. As if you were riding a bicycle facing forwards. A scissor kick is mimicking a pair of scissors with your body lay flat as if your head was the handle and legs the blades. Facing backwards. Same as a scorpion kick. Your body is the same shape as a scorpion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Just now, Cheese said: Don't think the direction of the ball matters, does it? If it bounces and you hit it as it comes back down, it's still a half volley. No it's not. It's definitely got to be immediately after the bounce. As Gonzo points out, like a drop kick in egg chasing. Anyway, what's the difference between a bicycle kick and a scissor kick, apart from the former having to be where your back is to goal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, gonzo said: Di-canio and Rivaldos were bicycle kicks as the motion is the same as riding a bicycle in and facing forward position. As if you were riding a bicycle facing forwards. A scissor kick is mimicking a pair of scissors with your body lay flat as if your head was the handle and legs the blades. Facing backwards. I've never read so much nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, Cheese said: Don't think the direction of the ball matters, does it? If it bounces and you hit it as it comes back down, it's still a half volley. No, I wouldn’t agree. Needs to be on the way up, immediately after it bounces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 6, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 6, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, DazBob said: No it's not. It's definitely got to be immediately after the bounce. As Gonzo points out, like a drop kick in egg chasing. Anyway, what's the difference between a bicycle kick and a scissor kick, apart from the former having to be where your back is to goal? I'm going to have to google it. I've always believed a half volley is any strike after the ball has bounced once. Edit: I googled it, and yet again my belief was wrong. I blame my parents/teachers/friends/TV pundits/brain. Edited January 6, 2023 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 21 minutes ago, Cheese said: Don't think the direction of the ball matters, does it? If it bounces and you hit it as it comes back down, it's still a half volley. That's how I see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 6, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 6, 2023 Just now, Sweep said: That's how I see it Wrong, apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Volley - hitting the ball while it's in the air from a cross. Half volley - doing the same but as it hits the ground. If it's bounced, on its way back up etc it's no kind of volley. I'm not aware of there being any difference between a bicycle or scissor kick. They're both side on, as opposed to an overhead. I've no coaching badges but I have played a lot of CM & FM over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 6, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Duck Egg said: Volley - hitting the ball while it's in the air from a cross. Half volley - doing the same but as it hits the ground. If it's bounced, on its way back up etc it's no kind of volley. I'm not aware of there being any difference between a bicycle or scissor kick. They're both side on, as opposed to an overhead. I've no coaching badges but I have played a lot of CM & FM over the years. More controversy. Even if the ball is going UP, it's not a half volley now. What a minefield @Jol_BWFChas uncovered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Just now, Cheese said: More controversy. Even if the ball is going UP, it's not a half volley now. What a minefield @Jol_BWFChas uncovered. Not controversial. Just correct. 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 6, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 6, 2023 Someone needs to phone Talksport and get this properly rolling. It could fill an entire day for them. I nominate @gonzoas he has prior experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted January 6, 2023 Author Share Posted January 6, 2023 Volley - hitting the ball on the full without it touching the ground before it gets to you. Half Volley - hitting the ball on the up immediately after hitting the ground. Bicycle Kick - back to the goal with both legs in the air when hitting the ball over your head. No twisting of body to help with direction. Scissor Kick - See orginal post. Btw @Casino I rate that Mullery goal as one of the best I've seen. Fantastic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 6, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, Underpants said: Volley - hitting the ball on the full without it touching the ground before it gets to you. Half Volley - hitting the ball on the up immediately after hitting the ground. Bicycle Kick - back to the goal with both legs in the air when hitting the ball over your head. No twisting of body to help with direction. Scissor Kick - See orginal post. Btw @Casino I rate that Mullery goal as one of the best I've seen. Fantastic! So what's it called when you hit the ball after it's bounced and is coming back down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Just now, Cheese said: So what's it called when you hit the ball after it's bounced and is coming back down? A shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted January 6, 2023 Author Share Posted January 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Cheese said: So what's it called when you hit the ball after it's bounced and is coming back down? A kick. HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter FrancisFogarty Posted January 6, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 6, 2023 Is this the same technique as goal by Bressan then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 6, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: A shot 9 minutes ago, Underpants said: A kick. HTH Every strike is a "shot" or a "kick", be it bicycle, volley or scissor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Cheese said: Every strike is a "shot" or a "kick", be it bicycle, volley or scissor. A free kick or penalty is shot or kick If either are scored do you refer to them as a shot or would you say they scored a penalty or free kick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 Most animated thread since Brexit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted January 6, 2023 Author Share Posted January 6, 2023 19 minutes ago, Cheese said: Every strike is a "shot" or a "kick", be it bicycle, volley or scissor. Some have been given a specific name. Or have you not noticed 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 53 minutes ago, Underpants said: Volley - hitting the ball on the full without it touching the ground before it gets to you. Half Volley - hitting the ball on the up immediately after hitting the ground. Bicycle Kick - back to the goal with both legs in the air when hitting the ball over your head. No twisting of body to help with direction. Scissor Kick - See orginal post. Btw @Casino I rate that Mullery goal as one of the best I've seen. Fantastic! So a bicycle Kick is the same as an overhead Kick in your view, a'la Dennis Tueart in 76? I disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted January 6, 2023 Share Posted January 6, 2023 58 minutes ago, Cheese said: So what's it called when you hit the ball after it's bounced and is coming back down? Nothing. It's just a normal shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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