AI is coming for us

[London Wanderer]

39 minutes ago, Cheese said:

So as usual, it's all a load of fucking fuss about nothing.

Not really mate.

I'd say we're in the midst of a mental health crisis for young people. 

I'm dealing with issues around self harm, suicidal thoughts and crippling anxiety on a weekly basis. And this is all with kids under the age of 11. 

We can talk all day about the causes. Lack of services, loss of communities, bad parenting, abuse, outdated curriculum... But there is no denying the massive role technology and social media has played. Some kids now get no respite from bullying like they used to, they live in a bubble of constant pressure to conform. 

Feel massively lucky to have grown up without it all. Just the simple thing of being able to go out without being 'trackable' allows young people to grow and develop their independence. 

I love gaming and modern tech. They're excellent for creativity. But young people aren't capable of managing their time on it and social media is a disaster for mental health. Needs to be treated like cigarettes and alcohol. 

[Cheese]

4 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Not really mate.

I'd say we're in the midst of a mental health crisis for young people. 

I'm dealing with issues around self harm, suicidal thoughts and crippling anxiety on a weekly basis. And this is all with kids under the age of 11. 

We can talk all day about the causes. Lack of services, loss of communities, bad parenting, abuse, outdated curriculum... But there is no denying the massive role technology and social media has played. Some kids now get no respite from bullying like they used to, they live in a bubble of constant pressure to conform. 

Feel massively lucky to have grown up without it all. Just the simple thing of being able to go out without being 'trackable' allows young people to grow and develop their independence. 

I love gaming and modern tech. They're excellent for creativity. But young people aren't capable of managing their time on it and social media is a disaster for mental health. Needs to be treated like cigarettes and alcohol. 

So it's back to bad parenting again.

[gonzo]

3 minutes ago, Cheese said:

So it's back to bad parenting again.

You're better than that Cheese.

[Cheese]

1 minute ago, gonzo said:

You're better than that Cheese.

Referring purely to the "kids spend to much time on social media" thing. Only parents can control that.

[gonzo]

18 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Referring purely to the "kids spend to much time on social media" thing. Only parents can control that.

There's only so much parents can do.

We all spend too much time on social media.

Every kid in the land has a phone now. Every kids computer games are linked to social media.

Instead of playing track and field on the commodore 64 kids are now wired up to Xbox live with Snapchat on the go and a couple of WhatsApp groups to boot.

 

[Cheese]

3 minutes ago, gonzo said:

There's only so much parents can do.

We all spend too much time on social media.

Every kid in the land has a phone now. Every kids computer games are linked to social media.

Instead of playing track and field on the commodore 64 kids are now wired up to Xbox live with Snapchat on the go and a couple of WhatsApp groups to boot.

Mine plays online with a couple of his friends now and then, but can't interact with strangers online, or download Snapchat/Whatsapp/whatever because his devices are locked down. Parental decision.

[gonzo]

15 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Mine plays online with a couple of his friends now and then, but can't interact with strangers online, or download Snapchat/Whatsapp/whatever because his devices are locked down. Parental decision.

Tremendous.

Just hope all the wonderful interaction skills you clearly have are passed down a generation. 

They'll be friendly, carefree and none argumentative social pillars in no time just like their father. 

Well done you x

[Cheese]

17 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Tremendous.

Just hope all the wonderful interaction skills you clearly have are passed down a generation. 

They'll be friendly, carefree and none argumentative social pillars in no time just like their father. 

Well done you x

Hope all the kids whose parents can't be arsed controlling what they're exposed to online don't turn out to be depressives, psychos and Nazis, but it seems to be heading that way - going by what you lot are saying on here, whilst doing nothing about it

x

Edited October 12, 2024 by Cheese

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

So it's back to bad parenting again.

 Did you read my post? 😂

There are loads of reasons. You can’t pin it down to one thing. 

 I’ve seen brilliant parents break down in tears because their child doesn’t want to be alive anymore. 
 

Young developing brains can’t cope with social media. That much is clear. I bet you’re an ace dad, but good luck hiding your child from the modern world & social media until they’re 18.

[Cheese]

2 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

 Did you read my post? 😂

There are loads of reasons. You can’t pin it down to one thing. 

 I’ve seen brilliant parents break down in tears because their child doesn’t want to be alive anymore. 
 

Young developing brains can’t cope with social media. That much is clear. I bet you’re an ace dad, but good luck hiding your child from the modern world & social media until they’re 18.

Old developed brains can't cope with social media either. I don't intend to "hide" my child from anything. I'm talking about people complaining about the dangers of it, whilst knowing their children are upstairs being exposed to it. It just sounds a bit daft to me.

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

Old developed brains can't cope with social media either.

Some old developed brains can’t cope with alcohol.

Doesn’t mean we legalise it for kids. 
 

[Cheese]

9 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Some old developed brains can’t cope with alcohol.

Doesn’t mean we legalise it for kids. 

Most Social Media sites have a minimum age limit for registration, and are only accessible via mobile phones or computers - both of which are (or should be) entirely controlled and paid for by parents. 

Edited October 12, 2024 by Cheese

[London Wanderer]

25 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Most Social Media sites have a minimum age limit for registration, and are only accessible via mobile phones or computers - both of which are (or should be) entirely controlled and paid for by parents. 

Which is 13 years old …

[Cheese]

2 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Which is 13 years old …

You specifically referred to kids under 11 years old...

[gonzo]

You really are such a prick at times mate.

You're going to look like one massive dick if, god forbid, your kids end up with any kind of issue.

 

[Cheese]

5 minutes ago, gonzo said:

You really are such a prick at times mate.

You're going to look like one massive dick if, god forbid, your kids end up with any kind of issue.

WTF are you talking about now? All I'm saying is people who complain about their kids spending too much time online are a bit fucking daft. Just turn the wifi off and stop paying for their phone data if it's such a serious issue.

[London Wanderer]

44 minutes ago, Cheese said:

WTF are you talking about now? All I'm saying is people who complain about their kids spending too much time online are a bit fucking daft. Just turn the wifi off and stop paying for their phone data if it's such a serious issue.

😂

deary me

sometimes I think you're quite sharp and witty... then i see posts like this. 

If only you were right and it was that simple mate. 

[Cheese]

1 minute ago, London Wanderer said:

😂

deary me

sometimes I think you're quite sharp and witty... then i see posts like this. 

If only you were right and it was that simple mate. 

Explain how kids under 11 years old are accessing the internet without their parents permission.

[London Wanderer]

14 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Explain how kids under 11 years old are accessing the internet without their parents permission.

The under 11s was reference to the age I work with. You don't need to obsess over that in some desperate attempt to prove a point. Kids under 11 are increasingly spending less time outside interacting. Childhood has changed massively in recent years and I think it's worrying. 

That social media is legal from the age of 13 is absolutely bonkers to me. Especially when you look at the impact it's having. And there are many other online platforms with similar impacts on mental health that have no age restrictions. 

As I said in my first post - social media is not the only issue here. Bad parenting is one of them of course. But you can't deny it's impact and only blame parenting. 

edit, have a nice eve pal x 

Edited October 12, 2024 by London Wanderer

[only1swanny]

20 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

The under 11s was reference to the age I work with. You don't need to obsess over that in some desperate attempt to prove a point. Kids under 11 are increasingly spending less time outside interacting. Childhood has changed massively in recent years and I think it's worrying. 

That social media is legal from the age of 13 is absolutely bonkers to me. Especially when you look at the impact it's having. And there are many other online platforms with similar impacts on mental health that have no age restrictions. 

As I said in my first post - social media is not the only issue here. Bad parenting is one of them of course. But you can't deny it's impact and only blame parenting. 

edit, have a nice eve pal x 

Did the whole social media thing at work..

 

One class of mid ability year 9s, their homework was to track their social media time.. one averaged 7 hours a day on a school day.. hour before school and straight through till 10/11 ish.. 

There's huge issues on the horizon, schools investing in safes,  lock bags, full week confiscation to try and deal with kids who can't go without them. 

 

[only1swanny]

 

Have a watch on the middle bit about Carney, happens more than you would think..

[London Wanderer]

58 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

Did the whole social media thing at work..

 

One class of mid ability year 9s, their homework was to track their social media time.. one averaged 7 hours a day on a school day.. hour before school and straight through till 10/11 ish.. 

There's huge issues on the horizon, schools investing in safes,  lock bags, full week confiscation to try and deal with kids who can't go without them. 

 

mind boggling those times, as an average as well. 

from what I've heard, the schools that ban phones throughout the day seem to seeing positive effects on behaviour and mental health and wellbeing.

huge problems with violent content being targeted at young boys as well through algorithms. It looks like we've got to the point where we're not sure how to combat it as it is so far ahead of us. 

[London Wanderer]

1 hour ago, only1swanny said:

 

Have a watch on the middle bit about Carney, happens more than you would think..

Good resource, cheers. 

[Cheese]

1 minute ago, London Wanderer said:

mind boggling those times, as an average as well. 

from what I've heard, the schools that ban phones throughout the day seem to seeing positive effects on behaviour and mental health and wellbeing.

huge problems with violent content being targeted at young boys as well through algorithms. It looks like we've got to the point where we're not sure how to combat it as it is so far ahead of us. 

Don't give them phones.

[London Wanderer]

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

Don't give them phones.

I completely agree. 

Ban access to social media until the age of 18 and smart phones until the same age. 

We'd see huge improvements to mental health.

Problem is that parents see the 13 guidelines and don't properly understand the risks. Then they let them on at 11 or 12 thinking it's no different to getting their 17 year old a pint or letting their 10 year old watch a 12 rated movie.