AI is coming for us

[Tonge moor green jacket]

15 minutes ago, Sweep said:

we're still probably a decade or so away from that sort of thing, but it's definitely coming. Within 30/40 years, we'll never need to leave our houses ever again.

How truly sad that will be.

Can one play LWB?

[Zico]

23 minutes ago, Sweep said:

we're still probably a decade or so away from that sort of thing, but it's definitely coming. Within 30/40 years, we'll never need to leave our houses ever again.

why wouldn't you leave the house?

if you have a robot at home doing everything that needs doing at home you're free to go off and do whatever the fuck you want elsewhere

walk, run, park, outdoors, exercise, social etc

the only folk who won't leave the house will be the ones that don't want to

and even now, today, you don't have to leave the house, if you dont' want to

[Sweep]

12 minutes ago, Zico said:

why wouldn't you leave the house?

if you have a robot at home doing everything that needs doing at home you're free to go off and do whatever the fuck you want elsewhere

walk, run, park, outdoors, exercise, social etc

the only folk who won't leave the house will be the ones that don't want to

and even now, today, you don't have to leave the house, if you dont' want to

Indeed, Mrs Sweeps Father has only left his house about 3 times in the last 4 years.

I'm not saying that folk won't leave the house, but if you take AI and all it's associated "opportunities" into account - you could feasibly, with a headset (or some other sensory environment) walk, run, go dogging and socialise from the comfort of your own home

it does all a sound a bit far fetched, but who knows where technology will take us - especially if a Putin or Iranian nuclear war, or another global pandemic change the outside world into some sort of dystopian wasteland 🙂

Edited October 11, 2024 by Sweep

[Tonge moor green jacket]

44 minutes ago, Zico said:

why wouldn't you leave the house?

if you have a robot at home doing everything that needs doing at home you're free to go off and do whatever the fuck you want elsewhere

walk, run, park, outdoors, exercise, social etc

the only folk who won't leave the house will be the ones that don't want to

and even now, today, you don't have to leave the house, if you dont' want to

Thin end of the wedge.

Folk don't get out and exercise enough now.

Given reacharounds on tap, cleaning, arse wiping, cooking etc, houses will be full of blobs.

[Zico]

4 hours ago, Sweep said:

Indeed, Mrs Sweeps Father has only left his house about 3 times in the last 4 years.

I'm not saying that folk won't leave the house, but if you take AI and all it's associated "opportunities" into account - you could feasibly, with a headset (or some other sensory environment) walk, run, go dogging and socialise from the comfort of your own home

it does all a sound a bit far fetched, but who knows where technology will take us - especially if a Putin or Iranian nuclear war, or another global pandemic change the outside world into some sort of dystopian wasteland 🙂

 

3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Thin end of the wedge.

Folk don't get out and exercise enough now.

Given reacharounds on tap, cleaning, arse wiping, cooking etc, houses will be full of blobs.

I don't think that's AI though

It's just technology making life easier and giving you less to do 

Like I have a robot hoover that means I don't have to hoover half as much as I used to

[gonzo]

Aye obviously not AI but you just don't need to ever leave your house if you're that way inclined.

Uber eats, amazon, free shopping delivery. Red button for Bolton games.

Even get brasses on Viva Street sent within half an hour of order.

Society full of hermit lazy cunts.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Where is the boundary then?

If you're not doing the physical things as much, then that reinforces the point above.

Gradually humans tend towards being nothing more than an existing lifeform.

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

1 minute ago, gonzo said:

Aye obviously not AI but you just don't need to ever leave your house if you're that way inclined.

Uber eats, amazon, free shopping delivery. Red button for Bolton games.

Even get brasses on Viva Street sent within half an hour of order.

Society full of hermit lazy cunts.

Wouldn't want it neither.

Fucking glorious out and about today.

A million colours, sunshine on your back.

Why on earth would enyone want to shut themselves away, and become a slave to machines.

[Not in Crawley]

2 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Aye obviously not AI but you just don't need to ever leave your house if you're that way inclined.

Uber eats, amazon, free shopping delivery. Red button for Bolton games.

Even get brasses on Viva Street sent within half an hour of order.

Society full of hermit lazy cunts.

Ah but we never will - we're social creatures. Look at the old boy who goes into the local and doesn't really speak to anyone, but watches TV, has a bite to eat and a pint. Its just the feeling of being around people. Why do people see gigs or theatre when they could stay at home and only watch fils (or filmed concerts) and listen to records.

In fact the 'experience' spend had increased as our world has become more digitised. People value this a lot more now they carry the world round in their pocket.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

6 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Ah but we never will - we're social creatures. Look at the old boy who goes into the local and doesn't really speak to anyone, but watches TV, has a bite to eat and a pint. Its just the feeling of being around people. Why do people see gigs or theatre when they could stay at home and only watch fils (or filmed concerts) and listen to records.

In fact the 'experience' spend had increased as our world has become more digitised. People value this a lot more now they carry the world round in their pocket.

When you say "spend" is that in real terms or just an actual amount? In days of yore, folk had less disposable income. (OK currently that perhaps isn't quite a definite, but you get my drift).

Pubs closing at an alarming rate, obesity increasing, mental health issues rocketing, and known troubles with too much time on digital devices.

That's not to mention to effects of lockdown on kids who couldn't see their friends in a social setting.

They've brought many benefits, but created many problems.

You like the outdoors, but many just seem more disconnected. 

[gonzo]

53 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Ah but we never will - we're social creatures. Look at the old boy who goes into the local and doesn't really speak to anyone, but watches TV, has a bite to eat and a pint. Its just the feeling of being around people. Why do people see gigs or theatre when they could stay at home and only watch fils (or filmed concerts) and listen to records.

In fact the 'experience' spend had increased as our world has become more digitised. People value this a lot more now they carry the world round in their pocket.

Quite a myopic view. Of course there's that side of things. 

But ask most group of friends do they see eachother less nowadays with the invention of what's app groups, FB and the likes.

That need for a monthly get together has been quenched for a lot of folk.

Personally I'm same as you, I love being out. Probably a good job as I'm rarely home

But with so much available for people at the press of button people for me, seem to be spending more and more time at home.

It can't be good for people and society as a whole.

[Not in Crawley]

40 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

When you say "spend" is that in real terms or just an actual amount? In days of yore, folk had less disposable income. (OK currently that perhaps isn't quite a definite, but you get my drift).

Pubs closing at an alarming rate, obesity increasing, mental health issues rocketing, and known troubles with too much time on digital devices.

That's not to mention to effects of lockdown on kids who couldn't see their friends in a social setting.

They've brought many benefits, but created many problems.

You like the outdoors, but many just seem more disconnected. 

For events and in real terms - this year has been harder but its mainly because the cost of living is starting to impact on the middle classes which are live ents bread and butter - certainly theatre. The point is people are still going out to share collective experiences - people overall are prioritizing experiences over material goods. Its mainly CC companies that run these surveys as live experiences are oftern purchased on them. Also, younger generations really are - they call it the Nownership ie they don't have TVs, own their homes, don't drive etc etc Everything is focused around the 'doing' its also driven by social feeds such as Instagram - the need to be seen to be doing stuff.

[Not in Crawley]

1 minute ago, gonzo said:

Quite a myopic view. Of course there's that side of things. 

But ask most group of friends do they see eachother less nowadays with the invention of what's app groups, FB and the likes.

That need for a monthly get together has been quenched for a lot of folk.

Personally I'm same as you, I love being out. Probably a good job as I'm rarely home

But with so much available for people at the press of button people for me, seem to be spending more and more time at home.

It can't be good for people and society as a whole.

Not massively moyopic as I outlined above - its about the value people are placing on things - so for example sofa purchases have dropped off the edge (DFS postede 11 million pounds profit down from something like 110 two years ago) so good purchases are dropping but spend on gigs, theatre etc has increased over the same period. There's loads of data/surveys out that that you can google if you can be that arsed. I weouldn't on a friday night (although I am still sat at my desk procrastinating as I get be arased to finish this budget but I need to!)

 

[Cheese]

Same was said about the printing press, then radio, then television. If people want to sit indoors all day, let them crack on. If you want to go out, do that. Each to their own innit. As if anyone is sat there wringing their hands with worry over the fella 3 doors down who only ever leaves his house to empty his rubbish. 😁

Edited October 11, 2024 by Cheese

[Not in Crawley]

4 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Same was said about the printing press, then radio, then television. If people want to sit indoors all day, let them crack on. If you want to go out, do that. Each to their own innit. As if any of you are sat there wringing your hands with worry over the fella 3 doors down who only ever leaves his house to empty his rubbish.

Yup - it'll never hapen because of what human beings are - we crave other people, even if we don't want to speak to them. We like being part of collectives. Hence the ritual of watching and supporting sports teams. 

[Winchester White]

Our company went from COVID to a hybrid working system which was quite loose at first.

Most went in one or two days a week tops. Now they have mandated 3 days minimum as I think that is a fair compromise.

I am a home worker as my office shut prior to COVID anyway but my new project means I need to be in the office more.

Thank fuck is all I can say. Even if it means traveling along our dog shit rail system to get to Reading slower than driving. How is that possible? How shit are we at public transport?

 

[gonzo]

13 hours ago, Cheese said:

 As if anyone is sat there wringing their hands with worry over the fella 3 doors down who only ever leaves his house to empty his rubbish. 😁

The point is more we breeding a society of fat lazy cunts ordering their kids uber eats instead of getting the pans on and sending their kids to school in an uber then sitting on face fuck all day.

 

The body and mind will always crave to find the easy way out....

The youth of today struggle to make a phone call. The majority of their social interaction is online. 

The horse has bolted like but society is worse for it. 

[Sweep]

3 hours ago, gonzo said:

The point is more we breeding a society of fat lazy cunts ordering their kids uber eats instead of getting the pans on and sending their kids to school in an uber then sitting on face fuck all day.

 

The body and mind will always crave to find the easy way out....

The youth of today struggle to make a phone call. The majority of their social interaction is online. 

The horse has bolted like but society is worse for it. 

My mates kids, who are aged 7 and 9, would already honestly sit playing Mario and watch other kids playing things on YouTube, than ever leave the house. He has to almost physically drag them out everyday to go for a walk, or to go to cubs/brownies. All their mates seen to be the same, they even all congregate "on line" to play games, rather than physically meet up at the park

[Cheese]

5 minutes ago, Sweep said:

My mates kids, who are aged 7 and 9, would already honestly sit playing Mario and watch other kids playing things on YouTube, than ever leave the house. He has to almost physically drag them out everyday to go for a walk, or to go to cubs/brownies. All their mates seen to be the same, they even all congregate "on line" to play games, rather than physically meet up at the park

Maybe he's not a very good parent then? 🤷‍♂️

[gonzo]

4 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Maybe he's not a very good parent then? 🤷‍♂️

A lot of kids are the same. Kids rarely play out now. They have everything at their disposal.

My youngest plays fortnight or whatever and literally his whole class is playing the same match. 20 odd kids all chatting shit on a group thing it's mad.

The days of all mobbing up down the nearest woods and making ropeswings and shit are long gone.

There's bigger pressure on parents now to get them out of do stuff every weekend.

 

[Cheese]

5 minutes ago, gonzo said:

A lot of kids are the same. Kids rarely play out now. They have everything at their disposal.

My youngest plays fortnight or whatever and literally his whole class is playing the same match. 20 odd kids all chatting shit on a group thing it's mad.

The days of all mobbing up down the nearest woods and making ropeswings and shit are long gone.

There's bigger pressure on parents now to get them out of do stuff every weekend.

Maybe our generation are all just crap parents then? We're the ones who have let it happen. 🤷‍♂️

[Sweep]

19 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Maybe he's not a very good parent then? 🤷‍♂️

Maybe, I don't give a fuck, they're not my kids

[gonzo]

12 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Maybe our generation are all just crap parents then? We're the ones who have let it happen. 🤷‍♂️

Just the way of the world isn't it. Things evolve and sometimes not for the good.

On the flip the opportunity and technology at kids disposal for learning and connecting to the world is getting bigger and bigger. So it's not all bad. 

My kids do and have done stuff I could never dream of doing. 

Not sure they'd swap what they have for building dens in the woods

[Sweep]

29 minutes ago, gonzo said:

 

There's bigger pressure on parents now to get them out of do stuff every weekend.

 

Indeed, so today, my mate had been running around all morning, as he did every Saturday, taking the daughter to horse riding and then gymnastics, and the boy to his golf lessons. So they do get out a lot, they'll be going swimming tomorrow, and as a family they always eat out and go to the cinema or bowling or something on a Sunday...... The kids would rather still be on their tablets, for fear of missing out on something. It's all very odd, as I said earlier, if they weren't "forced" to go and do things, they'd be happy to sit in their rooms and fuck about playing Mario and Fortnite. 

When I was a kid, being sent to your room was a punishment, now, it's far from it, it seems, it's where they'd rather be

[Cheese]

So as usual, it's all a load of fucking fuss about nothing.