Marc505 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 1 hour ago, gonzo said: My mate works in Saudi on the Neom project. A bit like us trying to get our heads around how big the universe is, its pretty hard to grasp how much money these people have. Hes currently on a project with Ski Resorts and Eco-trains ploughed through the sides out mountains all built without roads. They want their oily fingers cleaned up and into the western world sharpish. Money talks. Nowhere near that scale but my cousin went working over there as a PT, did a couple of years on a huge contract then one of the families he works for poached him and he just works for them now doing about 15 hours a week earning a mint. They take him along on all their holidays and business trips, been to New York, Paris and Tokyo already and only been doing it a few months! Money is absolutely no object whatsoever To think his mum and dad nagged him like fuck for taking a job at David Lloyd back in the day instead of finishing college 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 8 hours ago, Wanderlust said: ...and a little island off the coast of Europe built on colonialism, slavery and exploitation of the poor run by offshore billionaires being knocked off it's perch as the major player? Tough one to call TBH. That's RW levels of whataboutery. Just because the UK has history, doesn't mean you can't critise despotic regimes. That's nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted June 22, 2023 Moderators Share Posted June 22, 2023 Be interesting to hear what Gary Lineker has to say about taking a pay day in a country like SA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 22, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted June 22, 2023 9 hours ago, Marc505 said: PL shitting itself now there's a bigger guy on the block. Good way to jettison some massive wages off your bill though. Not sure the Saudi league has the same attraction, even with a number of mega stars. With clubs having the same owner, it appears to be like the American system. I can imagine it being like a series of exhibition matches, with little physical competition as owners too heavily invested to have their players injured. Anyway, good luck to them and the players if it's what they want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted June 22, 2023 Moderators Share Posted June 22, 2023 How does Saudi compare to UAE and Dubai in terms of being a millionaires playground and a great life style choice if you can afford it? China was probably never going to compete in that respect but plenty of young lads not quite up to PL or international level would probably be all over it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 I'd not be too upset if financial realities were forced in & we lost some of the cash chasers. We benefited from it & God bless fans seeing players they'd barely of dreamt of but, in the end, it brings a type of player with lower commitment. Exhibition football in a non-competitive league ... meh. Ruben Neves going for Gold aged 26 is showing that & if a few more exited .... meh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderlust Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Not in Crawley said: That's RW levels of whataboutery. Just because the UK has history, doesn't mean you can't critise despotic regimes. That's nuts. OK I'll play. So are you saying there's no hypocrisy in the UK criticising the former British Protectorate that was created by Britain with the Treaties of Darin and Jeddah and who did a deal to make the Al Saud tribe the royal family (at the expense of the other tribes that lived there) of a country which to this day remains a strategic ally? And you are also claiming that our plutocracy is morally superior to our own creation? And where does that sit with Thatcher's £43 billion Al Yamamah Arms Deal? Naw - forget history. The UK is corrupt as f*** and the Premiership are just jealous because they aren't the big wads on the block anymore. All this moral outrage is just a smokescreen - or gammon fodder as I like to call it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, Wanderlust said: OK I'll play. So are you saying there's no hypocrisy in the UK criticising the former British Protectorate that was created by Britain with the Treaties of Darin and Jeddah and who did a deal to make the Al Saud tribe the royal family (at the expense of the other tribes that lived there) of a country which to this day remains a strategic ally? And you are also claiming that our plutocracy is morally superior to our own creation? And where does that sit with Thatcher's £43 billion Al Yamamah Arms Deal? Naw - forget history. The UK is corrupt as f*** and the Premiership are just jealous because they aren't the big wads on the block anymore. All this moral outrage is just a smokescreen - or gammon fodder as I like to call it Of course not, but one doesn't mean you can't point out the flaws in the other. Its that easy, and I think we're talking at cross purposes here. Plus I'm not sure that Richard Masters has beheaded anyone yet and last I looked homosexuality was legal, as was critism of the government. Oh and we also have elections. Its the reasons for them wanting to take over Golf and own clubs in Europe and the fact that yes, we should look behind this smokescreen. As I say it's whataboutery and pearl clutuching at it's finest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 If one of the Saudi clubs had the best players in the world in every position I wouldn’t watch 15 seconds of a game. They will always be irrelevant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Its great viewing, seeing all the top 6 bell end fans and ex-players now crying about it. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 I know nobody really cares, but there is a massive and historical fan culture and following in Saudi its not like Messi who is going playing for a new franchise in front of 12k in a stadium worse than Bournemouth's, some of these clubs have been going for many decades and have big, raucous crowds with an ultras scene etc. It will be bigger and far more consequential than what happened with Chy-na. But I have zero sympathy for the Premier League, or UEFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 European Super League will happen now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 14 minutes ago, Farrelli said: European Super League will happen now. Good. Another set of self-important wankers who couldn’t give 2 shites about anyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 Just can’t understand it myself. If I was lucky enough to play elite level then I can’t think of anything worse than playing in Saudi Arabia. The passion and crowds across Europe are incredible, you’d cherish every minute of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 21 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: Just can’t understand it myself. If I was lucky enough to play elite level then I can’t think of anything worse than playing in Saudi Arabia. The passion and crowds across Europe are incredible, you’d cherish every minute of it. Me neither but it is a different world these days. It’s like the IPL in cricket, not a patch on a good test series but that is now the main event (it seems anyway). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e2e4 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Pablo said: Its great viewing, seeing all the top 6 bell end fans and ex-players now crying about it. 🤣 haha. "corrupt money ? in my football ? its more likely than you think" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 8 minutes ago, e2e4 said: haha. "corrupt money ? in my football ? its more likely than you think" All of a sudden everyone is outraged ffs Prem has been one of the most money corrupt sports leagues ever, take ever single penny from anyone who will throw at it. Milking asia/africa/american markets for anything...cheap kit manufacturing...tax dodging sponsors, war money, arab money, ganster money, lotto money, council money, money laundering company money....owners funding political campaigns... One of our top clubs has been playing a footballer on bail for rape ffs.....but then being outraged when a fan swears or sings a hurty song!! Taking Gambling companies money for decades, beer / alcohol, Crypto.... Zero...ZERO morals in prem football, they have no leg to stand on. Hope it goes pop, after the Saudis rape the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 35 minutes ago, Pablo said: All of a sudden everyone is outraged ffs Prem has been one of the most money corrupt sports leagues ever, take ever single penny from anyone who will throw at it. Milking asia/africa/american markets for anything...cheap kit manufacturing...tax dodging sponsors, war money, arab money, ganster money, lotto money, council money, money laundering company money....owners funding political campaigns... One of our top clubs has been playing a footballer on bail for rape ffs.....but then being outraged when a fan swears or sings a hurty song!! Taking Gambling companies money for decades, beer / alcohol, Crypto.... Zero...ZERO morals in prem football, they have no leg to stand on. Hope it goes pop, after the Saudis rape the league. Fucken bang on. You'd suit following an EFL team you 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 59 minutes ago, Pablo said: All of a sudden everyone is outraged ffs Prem has been one of the most money corrupt sports leagues ever, take ever single penny from anyone who will throw at it. Milking asia/africa/american markets for anything...cheap kit manufacturing...tax dodging sponsors, war money, arab money, ganster money, lotto money, council money, money laundering company money....owners funding political campaigns... One of our top clubs has been playing a footballer on bail for rape ffs.....but then being outraged when a fan swears or sings a hurty song!! Taking Gambling companies money for decades, beer / alcohol, Crypto.... Zero...ZERO morals in prem football, they have no leg to stand on. Hope it goes pop, after the Saudis rape the league. Gary Neville agrees and disagrees with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 On this thread alone you can see why they are investing so much into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 22, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted June 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, tomski said: Gary Neville agrees and disagrees with this. 😁 Two rat faces! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: 😁 Two rat faces! Biggest hypocrite going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted June 22, 2023 Author Share Posted June 22, 2023 12 hours ago, Not in Crawley said: That's RW levels of whataboutery. Just because the UK has history, doesn't mean you can't critise despotic regimes. That's nuts. Your Obsession with me is weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted June 22, 2023 Author Share Posted June 22, 2023 8 hours ago, Pablo said: All of a sudden everyone is outraged ffs Prem has been one of the most money corrupt sports leagues ever, take ever single penny from anyone who will throw at it. Milking asia/africa/american markets for anything...cheap kit manufacturing...tax dodging sponsors, war money, arab money, ganster money, lotto money, council money, money laundering company money....owners funding political campaigns... One of our top clubs has been playing a footballer on bail for rape ffs.....but then being outraged when a fan swears or sings a hurty song!! Taking Gambling companies money for decades, beer / alcohol, Crypto.... Zero...ZERO morals in prem football, they have no leg to stand on. Hope it goes pop, after the Saudis rape the league. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted June 22, 2023 Members Share Posted June 22, 2023 10 hours ago, Wanderlust said: OK I'll play. So are you saying there's no hypocrisy in the UK criticising the former British Protectorate that was created by Britain with the Treaties of Darin and Jeddah and who did a deal to make the Al Saud tribe the royal family (at the expense of the other tribes that lived there) of a country which to this day remains a strategic ally? And you are also claiming that our plutocracy is morally superior to our own creation? And where does that sit with Thatcher's £43 billion Al Yamamah Arms Deal? Naw - forget history. The UK is corrupt as f*** and the Premiership are just jealous because they aren't the big wads on the block anymore. All this moral outrage is just a smokescreen - or gammon fodder as I like to call it He's really trying to draw a moral equivalence between the UK and the ultra regressive Saudi regime🤦♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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