I know this is the French, but still a good tweet.

Come on England!

Perhaps not as strong as we were for the Euros, but still in with a good shout.

Edited June 5, 20242 yr by desperado

2 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I also don't take my shirt off and run around the office, screaming, before pointing to my shoe every time I do something good at work either.

Taking this incident in isolation - I think it's reasonable to give him the benefit of the doubt, and understand that he was caught up in the emotion moment. And that, on balance of probability he was just caught up in the money and that he want doing it for sexual kicks.

If he's got a track record of it then throw the book at him. 

I'd never even heard of him till yesterday when he suddenly became the new Harvey Weinstein.

You can't give someone a kiss they don't want, in any way shape or form. He's not Weinstein but it speaks to the general idea that it's OK, and it isn't.

Then the follow up just made it worse, the air of entitlement the 'oh I'm sorry' without knowing its fundamentally out of order.

It's about power and entitlement.

2 hours ago, Casino said:

He wont survive

Which is GOOD

ive Kissed my Cousin's better then that 

4 hours ago, kent_white said:

That's a good question. Should there be men's coaches in the women's game. 

I mean a manager is arguably more important than an individual player. So in that respect - has Spain's manager essentially been mansplaining? 😳

Did Phil  (THE CUNT ) neville  not do the England team 

ad watch them Shower 

ive seen the picks

6 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

It's about power and entitlement.

See that's where we differ. I don't think it was about power and entitlement  - I think was about joy and emotion and being in the moment. 

5 minutes ago, kent_white said:

See that's where we differ. I don't think it was about power and entitlement  - I think was about joy and emotion and being in the moment. 

Do you not see the power imbalance though?

7 minutes ago, kent_white said:

See that's where we differ. I don't think it was about power and entitlement  - I think was about joy and emotion and being in the moment. 

Anyway why are you not watching The Shed Project tonight?

3 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Do you not see the power imbalance though?

NO

he has not Flipped her over like a Burger 

And Bummed her 

Just now, little whitt said:

NO

he has not Flipped her over like a Burger 

And Bummed her 

You are so right, at least he didn't do that.

8 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Do you not see the power imbalance though?

Not in the sense that you'd like me too

1 minute ago, kent_white said:

Not in the sense that you'd like me too

You kinky sod

35 minutes ago, Krimzon said:

First sentence : ive done it , 25 years ago after a colleague that was also a close personal friend bailed me out of a mountain of shit .

Second sentence , was that not just cos they beat the hated english ? We all know the Spanish fuckin hate us but love our money.

 

For me the point is that for everyone else in the line up it was hugs and cheek kisses , very european, then it changed for her and only her .

If our best mates did that to us after winning a world cup final would anyone bat an eyelid ? 

But they are not best mates or in a relationship , hardly know each other and was completely different to what he did to everyone else.

 

Drag him through the coals the filthy spi...er person. 

It’s just weird behaviour. 

3 minutes ago, kent_white said:

See that's where we differ. I don't think it was about power and entitlement  - I think was about joy and emotion and being in the moment. 

That's where I'm coming from. I think most of us get where Crawley is coming from. But Imo, given all the evidence, at worst it was a misjudged action that was fueled by the occasion. 

Him and the national team manager are both wrong'uns

Yet the gaffer managed to produce a world cup winning team, despite having to do without some players.

He must have something going for him!

16 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Him and the national team manager are both wrong'uns

And this is the womens chance to get shut of both

10 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Yet the gaffer managed to produce a world cup winning team, despite having to do without some players.

He must have something going for him!

Think thats the point though

They won in spite of him

A lot of the better players havent been allowed back in

2 minutes ago, Casino said:

Think thats the point though

They won in spite of him

A lot of the better players havent been allowed back in

Players boycotted the team. Rightly or wrongly, I've no idea.

The idea they won in spite of him though, nah, if he was that bad, no one would play for him surely.

Nor would he keep a coaching staff.

He may be a person that rubs folk up, but maybe he also gets the most out of others.

Reminds me a bit of the woman who managed GB gymnastics for a while. She got good results, but then the allegations came out and she was ostracised.

A fine balance between pushing to maximise talent and bullying.

Even Pep can't keep all his players happy!

Christ it is funny reading back. Grown men saying they or someone else 'can't express an opinion', whilst simultaneously expressing an opinion and continuing to express it. Must be hard for us straight white men living under such extreme oppression. 

Anyway, my understanding of this (and it may be wrong so do correct me) is that he did apologise but the issue is with him pressuring the las to release a statement saying everything was OK. Even though it did make her feel pretty uncomfortable. 

It was a very, very odd thing to do, even under the circumstances. But strange things happen during feelings of euphoria. Fuck knows how many strangers did awkward shite in the stands after Wilbraham's header against Forest. I don't think he should be forced out over this alone after his apology. Unless it is true that he did put pressure on the player and her family for speaking about how she honestly felt. 

Think there is a lot of historical stuff at play here as well. 

7 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Players boycotted the team. Rightly or wrongly, I've no idea.

The idea they won in spite of him though, nah, if he was that bad, no one would play for him surely.

Theres another half dozen havent been let back

That spanish team would be better without el pres and manager

 

40 minutes ago, Casino said:

Theres another half dozen havent been let back

That spanish team would be better without el pres and manager

 

I guess we'll see if they go.

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Players boycotted the team. Rightly or wrongly, I've no idea.

The idea they won in spite of him though, nah, if he was that bad, no one would play for him surely.

Nor would he keep a coaching staff.

He may be a person that rubs folk up, but maybe he also gets the most out of others.

Reminds me a bit of the woman who managed GB gymnastics for a while. She got good results, but then the allegations came out and she was ostracised.

A fine balance between pushing to maximise talent and bullying.

Even Pep can't keep all his players happy!

Think his coaching staff have just resigned en masse. 

Saw the kiss today 

Had I seen at the time and had nothing been said since I wouldn't have given it a second thought

But If she didn't like it, she didn't like it 

He should've just come out and said sorry, I just got carried away in the moment 

I think the issue is that pressure has been put on her and others to change their statements and say something else instead like I didn't mind the kiss really

That's not on 

2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Players boycotted the team. Rightly or wrongly, I've no idea.

The idea they won in spite of him though, nah, if he was that bad, no one would play for him surely.

Nor would he keep a coaching staff.

He may be a person that rubs folk up, but maybe he also gets the most out of others.

Reminds me a bit of the woman who managed GB gymnastics for a while. She got good results, but then the allegations came out and she was ostracised.

A fine balance between pushing to maximise talent and bullying.

Even Pep can't keep all his players happy!

That's because their menstrual cycles have all synched. 

They'll be fine by next week 😁

 

17 minutes ago, Zico said:

Saw the kiss today 

Had I seen at the time and had nothing been said since I wouldn't have given it a second thought

But If she didn't like it, she didn't like it 

He should've just come out and said sorry, I just got carried away in the moment 

I think the issue is that pressure has been put on her and others to change their statements and say something else instead like I didn't mind the kiss really

That's not on 

Pretty much it

Dodgy as fuck

Lets not forget Spain are miles behind us in terms of equality

This cunt has to go whether pushed or voluntary. WTF was he thinking? He should have waited for one of the prettier ones to come along.