England Women’s Football

[bolty58]

2 hours ago, Traf said:

Yeah, I heard cinders.

@Steejay will know, he was there 😉

I'm in trouble then. He was in a lower year at BCGS 

[fatolive]

On 21/08/2023 at 01:47, bolty58 said:

Yes, me. According to my great grandad, it was based on the fact the we served pigs trotters at games rather than pies etc. which every other club seemed to do. Visiting fans reputedly used to say 'I'm off for some trotters' when they were heading to Bolton.

I would never doubt Ike for a second although I am sure some smartarse will be eagerly seeking an alternative explanation.

Sure I once read that totters derived from an 19th century practice of “trotting “ running up beside people, kicking / assaulting them, some for robbery sometimes just for fun ,

People in Bolton were known for this and a high number of incidents logged and so people warned, if you go to Bolton , beware of “trotters”

can’t find anything on it, but I swear I read that somewhere . 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

3 minutes ago, fatolive said:

Sure I once read that totters derived from an 19th century practice of “trotting “ running up beside people, kicking / assaulting them, some for robbery sometimes just for fun ,

People in Bolton were known for this and a high number of incidents logged and so people warned, if you go to Bolton , beware of “trotters”

can’t find anything on it, but I swear I read that somewhere . 

I think that's akin to the history spoken of above, though perhaps without the criminal bit. Just "pranks".

That said, I suppose the nasty bit may gradually disappear over time.

[DirtySanchez]

13 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I think that's akin to the history spoken of above, though perhaps without the criminal bit. Just "pranks".

That said, I suppose the nasty bit may gradually disappear over time.

That's the explanation I heard 

Got a mate who is a West Brom fan so asked where the nickname the baggies came from 

Seems there's two explanations as they were one of the first teams to wear baggy shorts

The other is that you'd didn't pay at a turnstile to get in, a bloke came round the terrace and you would put your money in a bag

Seems we're not the only ones to not fully know where the nickname comes from

[MickyD]

I once read a tale about a trotter being a joker. One old trotter would bet he could withstand a kick to the shin more than someone else. Turned out he had a wooden leg and his ‘victims’ had been “trotted”.

[SatanGreavsie]

5 minutes ago, MickyD said:

I once read a tale about a trotter being a joker. One old trotter would bet he could withstand a kick to the shin more than someone else. Turned out he had a wooden leg and his ‘victims’ had been “trotted”.

Reminds of this anecdote about the great boxing commentator Reg Gutteridge.

From The final bell for boxing great Reg Gutteridge - Sports Journalists' Association

Colin Hart, doyen of boxing writers: "Reg was sitting in the back of a limousine with the then fearsome world heavyweight champion Sonny Liston and a few of us scribes. Somehow the talk topic got around to whether white or black men had the lowest pain threshold. "I have the willpower to overcome any physical pain" Reg told the champ.

“He took a penknife from his pocket and challenged Sonny to stick it in his leg. His eyes opened wide and he said, "No way, man". So Reg stuck the penknife deep into his leg himself, and Liston very nearly turned white. He then laughed non-stop for ages when Reg rolled up his trouser to show his false leg that he'd had since stepping on a mine during the Normandy landings..."

[Zico]

I heard the trotter being the name for practical jokes explanation once upon a time 

Never heard anything about it being about eating pigs to trotters 

Either way I genuinely feel sorry for any team who have a shit nickname that is merely the colour they play in or just part of their actual name (eg the villa, forest etc)

[Casino]

Baggies mentioned above

Pretty sure they were the throstles when i was a kid

[Zico]

Had SSN on this evening and it's been headline news that a world record bid for a goalkeeper has been made in the WSL but they won't actually say what it was or from who

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/36996/12946752/mary-earps-man-utd-women-reject-bid-for-england-goalkeeper-from-unnamed-club 

Just tell us if it's that good

[bolty58]

6 hours ago, Casino said:

Baggies mentioned above

Pretty sure they were the throstles when i was a kid

Correct. Crystal Palace the Glaziers, Reading the Biscuitmen, Chelsea the Pensioners, Wigan the Insignificants.

[bolty58]

I suppose you can believe what you want about the origins of our nickname. I'll trust me great grandfather who told me that it was the pigs trotters on sale at the stadium which brought about the nickname. Folk used to say, instead of "I'm going to the match" - "I'm off for some trotters" which quickly became "I'm off to the trotters".

[Casino]

13 hours ago, Zico said:

Had SSN on this evening and it's been headline news that a world record bid for a goalkeeper has been made in the WSL but they won't actually say what it was or from who

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/36996/12946752/mary-earps-man-utd-women-reject-bid-for-england-goalkeeper-from-unnamed-club 

Just tell us if it's that good

they lost half a million quid not selling russo in jan

that was to arsenal

 

 

so much yap this week about nike and her shirt

some journo was on this morning claiming hers is the 3rd best selling united shirt across mens and womens teams

that, im not having, unless its the 3rd highest selling keeper shirt?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Nike are doing a limited edition of her shirt now.

They might have played a blinder- deliberately hold back, let the media drum up support, then do a "u-turn" and sell plenty.

[DirtySanchez]

1 hour ago, Casino said:

they lost half a million quid not selling russo in jan

that was to arsenal

 

 

so much yap this week about nike and her shirt

some journo was on this morning claiming hers is the 3rd best selling united shirt across mens and womens teams

that, im not having, unless its the 3rd highest selling keeper shirt?

Wasn't sure if clubs sell keeper's tops though I haven't paid much attention to that

Quick look and ours is £60 

Fuck that 

[royal white]

Well this has escalated quickly. 
 

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/spains-fa-president-luis-rubiales-refuses-to-quit-as-he-claims-womens-world-cup-final-kiss-was-mutual-12947080

[MickyD]

9 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Nike are doing a limited edition of her shirt now.

They might have played a blinder- deliberately hold back, let the media drum up support, then do a "u-turn" and sell plenty.

The “Limited Edition” is a marketing master stroke. As soon as they are released folk will be clamouring for a shirt because they may otherwise miss out on the opportunity to own one.

[Underpants]

13 hours ago, royal white said:

Well this has escalated quickly. 
 

https://news.sky.com/story/amp/spains-fa-president-luis-rubiales-refuses-to-quit-as-he-claims-womens-world-cup-final-kiss-was-mutual-12947080

It looked odd but not inappropriate. The player involved only changed her story when other folk expressed outrage. It was hardly a Harvey Weinstein moment.

Edited August 26, 2023 by Underpants

[only1swanny]

26 minutes ago, Underpants said:

It looked odd but not inappropriate. The player involved only changed her story when other folk expressed outrage. It was hardly a Harvey Weinstein moment.

Just seen the video on the bbc, kisses every player and its clearly excitement. Kisses her cheek, says something to her, peck on the lips and she walks off with a smile on her face, next player, same but exact same type of kiss on their cheek. None of them seemed remotely bothered by it. Absolutely nothing sexual about it whatsoever. 

Unsure what all this lifting is about that the Spanish FA are bringing up. 

But of course I'm a straight white male so have no place to discuss these things.

[Not in Crawley]

28 minutes ago, Underpants said:

It looked odd but not inappropriate. The player involved only changed her story when other folk expressed outrage. It was hardly a Harvey Weinstein moment.

Yup you are totally correct. Its not at all an odd thing to do whatsoever.

[Not in Crawley]

Just now, only1swanny said:

Just seen the video on the bbc, kisses every player and its clearly excitement. Kisses her cheek, says something to her, peck on the lips and she walks off with a smile on her face, next player, same but exact same type of kiss on their cheek. None of them seemed remotely bothered by it. Absolutely nothing sexual about it whatsoever. 

Unsure what all this lifting is about that the Spanish FA are bringing up. 

But of course I'm a straight white male so have no place to discuss these things.

Well that's a daft thing to say. Almost as daft as the preceeding paragraphs, but not quite.

[paulhanley]

7 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Well that's a daft thing to say. Almost as daft as the preceeding paragraphs, but not quite.

Daft? You must be in a charitable mood today. He's done well to escape a censorious finger-wagging, being told his views are "inappropriate" and that he should take "diversity and inclusion" training. 

[only1swanny]

4 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

Daft? You must be in a charitable mood today. He's done well to escape a censorious finger-wagging, being told his views are "inappropriate" and that he should take "diversity and inclusion" training. 

Been to one of them, 

apparently I'm privileged too as I went to a private school. 

[Not in Crawley]

Just now, paulhanley said:

Daft? You must be in a charitable mood today. He's done well to escape a censorious finger-wagging, being told his views are "inappropriate" and that he should take "diversity and inclusion" training. 

His views aren't inappropriate. And people should have opinions, but at times folk should listen more before they speak, and that's a case in point.

And I can't be arsed being dragged into a further dicussion about structural and behavioural barriers to gender inequality because of got a shite load of washing to do, and the weekend big shop.

 

[Not in Crawley]

Just now, only1swanny said:

Been to one of them, 

apparently I'm privileged too as I went to a private school. 

In the context of the last couple of post, that's a work of genius.

[only1swanny]

1 minute ago, Not in Crawley said:

In the context of the last couple of post, that's a work of genius.

Which your reply has pretty much summed up why I put that on the bottom. 

Not allowed an opinion, simply as I've looked at it from a different perspective. The guy was wrong to do it, he's apologies, thats that,