England Women’s Football

[Underpants]

25 minutes ago, bwfc2003 said:

Wanderers isnt a nickname - its part of our identity - and who ever calls us the trotters FFS

I reckon quite a lot of football fans would know that we are the Trotters.

Anyway my point is that these nicknames/labels, or whatever you want to call them, have been attached to sporting teams and clubs forever. The Yanks have zero history so they just came up with ridiculous names. I can't remember the England men's football team being called the 3 Lions until Euro96. The Lionesses monica is just a byproduct of that. @bolty58 is just being a curmudgeon 🙄

[BobyBrno]

51 minutes ago, Underpants said:

I reckon quite a lot of football fans would know that we are the Trotters.

Anyway my point is that these nicknames/labels, or whatever you want to call them, have been attached to sporting teams and clubs forever. The Yanks have zero history so they just came up with ridiculous names. I can't remember the England men's football team being called the 3 Lions until Euro96. The Lionesses monica is just a byproduct of that. @bolty58 is just being a curmudgeon 🙄

Yep. There is a history of nicknames or whatever to describe teams. Trotters, Lisbon Lions, Gunners, etc. etc.

Looking forward to the Lionesses match tomorrow and a possible historical moment in British sport (the Scott’s and others may differ)

Saw you on the train today by the way but as my face was pushed up against the window, I never got to say hello.😊

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Bit of annoyance around the media/game that Prince William hasn't gone. Considering his position at the FA, what do folk think?

Personally, I'm not convinced that his comment that it is a long way to go for a short period is really adequate.

Surely he realises that he may be required to go all over should either team be successful?

[Cheshire Youri]

Think England are in for a big wake-up call tomorrow.

They're yet to play a top 10 side. Struggled against Colombia, Nigeria and Haiti. Should have lost to Australia.

Spain, meanwhile, have looked comfortable and beaten good sides, like Sweden and Netherlands.

[Ani]

7 minutes ago, Cheshire Youri said:

Think England are in for a big wake-up call tomorrow.

They're yet to play a top 10 side. Struggled against Colombia, Nigeria and Haiti. Should have lost to Australia.

Spain, meanwhile, have looked comfortable and beaten good sides, like Sweden and Netherlands.

They struggled against Nigeria but were miles better than the Aussies.

Spain lost 4-0 to Japan. 
 

If today teaches us anything it is whoever turns up on the day. 

[Ani]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Bit of annoyance around the media/game that Prince William hasn't gone. Considering his position at the FA, what do folk think?

Personally, I'm not convinced that his comment that it is a long way to go for a short period is really adequate.

Surely he realises that he may be required to go all over should either team be successful?

The flip-side is if him or Rishi jumped on a plane to watch a game they would be criticised for destroying the planet. 

[Underpants]

45 minutes ago, Ani said:

The flip-side is if him or Rishi jumped on a plane to watch a game they would be criticised for destroying the planet. 

Harry could have done himself a lot of favours and jumped on a plane.

As for Wills and Charles. One should have gone. Balls to this environmental rubbish. There will be plenty of over seas trips for both of them in the future.

[bolty58]

12 hours ago, Underpants said:

Sporting teams have had nicknames and labels since year dot. Your beloved Bolton have got Wanderers & Trotters . Can hardly blame that on the Yanks.

Owd on FFS. Not 'Bearcats', 'Horned Frogs' or 'Razorbacks'. Wanderers due to the search for a home. Trotters because of a foodstuff synonymous with a visit to a BWFC game. Hardly comparable.

With this in mind, happy to accept Luton Town being the 'Clangers', Middlesbrough the 'Steamers', Bury the 'Black Puddings' and Blackburn the 'Chickens'. Satisfied now?

 

[bolty58]

12 hours ago, bwfc2003 said:

Wanderers isnt a nickname - its part of our identity - and who ever calls us the trotters FFS

Me. Part of our identity.

[bolty58]

12 hours ago, Underpants said:

I reckon quite a lot of football fans would know that we are the Trotters.

Anyway my point is that these nicknames/labels, or whatever you want to call them, have been attached to sporting teams and clubs forever. The Yanks have zero history so they just came up with ridiculous names. I can't remember the England men's football team being called the 3 Lions until Euro96. The Lionesses monica is just a byproduct of that. @bolty58 is just being a curmudgeon 🙄

Excellent use of vocabulary sir - I will forego the opportunity to label you 'ageist' - especially as you seem to be getting your rocks off with 'mysogynist' these days.

Oft curmudgeonly, fleetingly mellifluous. C'est moi  

[bolty58]

6 hours ago, Cheshire Youri said:

Think England are in for a big wake-up call tomorrow.

They're yet to play a top 10 side. Struggled against Colombia, Nigeria and Haiti. Should have lost to Australia.

Spain, meanwhile, have looked comfortable and beaten good sides, like Sweden and Netherlands.

You miss the obvious trends in virtually every World Cup we have ever seen. It's about timing. England have hit peak form at a perfect juncture. Spain have peaked too early in my opinion. If you can't remember West Germany winning it in 1974 after losing to East Germany you can certainly recall the most recent winners being less than convincing in the early games.

They didn't struggle against the three you mention. Just didn't thrash them. Perfect. I can see Spanish tiki taka being trumped by power and pace. We shall see.

The comment about Australia is utter nonsense as well you know.

[Biggish Dave]

Got a Spain and Villa double today. That should do the trick for the wenches

[Underpants]

5 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Owd on FFS. Not 'Bearcats', 'Horned Frogs' or 'Razorbacks'. Wanderers due to the search for a home. Trotters because of a foodstuff synonymous with a visit to a BWFC game. Hardly comparable.

With this in mind, happy to accept Luton Town being the 'Clangers', Middlesbrough the 'Steamers', Bury the 'Black Puddings' and Blackburn the 'Chickens'. Satisfied now?

 

Im neither happy or sad. I'm just saying that you stretched to breaking point the Americanism point you made. Lionesses is not in that category no matter how much you defend your stance. If they were called the St George's Mud Hens I would possibly agree with you.

[Sweep]

Just been listening to the radio on the build up. What really grinds my gears is perfectly rational people, starting to talk about "omens" and "jinxes" - absolute fucking dicks. One person managed to get both in one sentence, suggesting it was a good omen that it's the same ground that the England Rugby won the WC in (what the fuck had that got to do with anything) then saying they how they hope they don't "jinx" it by being there, as they didn't go to the quarter or semi-final. 

Anybody who ever refers to omens and jinxes, and thinks they have any bearing on anything, ever, should be burnt at a stake. 

Edited August 20, 2023 by Sweep

[Sweep]

5 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Owd on FFS. Not 'Bearcats', 'Horned Frogs' or 'Razorbacks'. Wanderers due to the search for a home. Trotters because of a foodstuff synonymous with a visit to a BWFC game. Hardly comparable.

With this in mind, happy to accept Luton Town being the 'Clangers', Middlesbrough the 'Steamers', Bury the 'Black Puddings' and Blackburn the 'Chickens'. Satisfied now?

 

I'm sure someone will know better than I, but isn't the nickname fuck all to do with either the grim "delicacy" or our original lack of a home, but to do with an old slang term for a practical joker or something (I know, spurious to say the least) - but, I'm sure I was told this year's ago...........or maybe I made it up in my head 😊

[Not in Crawley]

10 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I'm sure someone will know better than I, but isn't the nickname fuck all to do with either the grim "delicacy" or our original lack of a home, but to do with an old slang term for a practical joker or something (I know, spurious to say the least) - but, I'm sure I was told this year's ago...........or maybe I made it up in my head 😊

Yeah that's what I thought as well, sure I read it was because we liked to pull jolly japes on the opposition.

[Not in Crawley]

Quick Google seems there's loads of apocryphal tales as to why we have that nickname.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

16 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I'm sure someone will know better than I, but isn't the nickname fuck all to do with either the grim "delicacy" or our original lack of a home, but to do with an old slang term for a practical joker or something (I know, spurious to say the least) - but, I'm sure I was told this year's ago...........or maybe I made it up in my head 😊

This is correct- at least was written in the book I read.

As for the prince- I believe some "environmental" cconsiderations have been involved, in which case he ans the family could have gone earlier, and supported the semi. Not that that changes the carbon footprint, but if he feels better becasue it's not a quick in and out, then great.

It would be William though, not Harry, who has no direct involvement. If he went it would be as a fan 

He'd also need permission...

Come on ladies.

[Wanderlust]

Here we go. Spain are favourites with the majority of them playing for the all-conquering Barcelona team and their well-documented off field troubles behind them - but I have faith in Wiegman to organise the team properly and not succomb to the aggressive Spanish press.

[Ani]

35 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Just been listening to the radio on the build up. What really grinds my gears is perfectly rational people, starting to talk about "omens" and "jinxes" - absolute fucking dicks. One person managed to get both in one sentence, suggesting it was a good omen that it's the same ground that the England Rugby won the WC in (what the fuck had that got to do with anything) then saying they how they hope they don't "jinx" it by being there, as they didn't go to the quarter or semi-final. 

Anybody who ever refers to omens and jinxes, and thinks they have any bearing on anything, ever, should be burnt at a stake. 

Before yesterday I would have argued with you but I chose my underwear and footwear so as to avoid jinxing us that seems to have had no impact.

Although I had to get my pastie from a different kiosk as usual one was sold out. That clearly did jinx us. 

[Wanderlust]

Disastrous mistake from Lucy Bronze, driving forward into a crowd of Spanish midfielders, losing possession and leaving a huge hole in the England back line that Spain were happy to exploit for the goal.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

She meandered to an extent, but the movement from team mates was terrible. The Spanish players had to close Bronze down- they weren't stood still waiting for her- and that should have seen others moving better and giving her an option.

That said, it's a good game and both sides could have had a couple of goals easily.

[captainmed]

Oh dear they’re losing.

[Not in Crawley]

1 minute ago, captainmed said:

Oh dear we're losing.

Corrected for you.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

A harsh pen this. Wasn't running with her arms flapping about at 90⁰.

Just for balance.