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33 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Agreed. We have 8 forwards on the books of you include CMG and there are only 1 who is capable of scoring any goals.

Neither Pompey or Debry would have any of em bar Dion and maybe Collins based on Bristol form.

That's the manager and Markhams fault 100%. 

...but we can't change what we had to play with yesterday. 

 

Markham has been a complete disaster 

1 hour ago, Greg_BWFC said:

Worries me if you're thinking this way mate, you're usually a glass half full sort.

FWIW, if we win all 6 we'll finish 2nd 😀.

Big ask but it's one game at a time.

If we can beat Pompey and win at Peterboro the play offs hold no fears anyway 😀

We only need to win 2 out of 3 to go up, that has to be easier than 6 out of 6 when one is v Pompey.

Then again, I don't trust the refs/lady luck in the play offs so maybe the 6 league wins is the way to do it!

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

Out 8 forward players we have 5 are injured. You just can't account for that I don't care what other clubs do.

2 of those 5 are first choice and had us flying.

Nobody in the world could have forseen Collins not being able to trap a bag of cement.

That makes it sound like they were playing well every week, that wasn't the players I was watching in some of those games.  Collins has as many good games as Vic away from home - not many.  At home he's looked good, which is where Vic has had his best games.

Opposite to Charles who hasn't performed consistently in home games for a long time but has been a useful source of goals (as well as misses) away from home.

Not reading the last 16 pages that I've missed since I last logged on, so apologies if I'm repeating others' views.

Yesterday's 'performance' was insipid, turgid shite. Too many seemingly just going through the motions, Captain Calamity back to his worst and an attack that could still be on nil if the game was still ongoing a day later.

We're limping towards the almost inevitable 2-legged play-off defeat and I'm not convinced I can be arsed turning up if they players can't.

12 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

That makes it sound like they were playing well every week, that wasn't the players I was watching in some of those games.  Collins has as many good games as Vic away from home - not many.  At home he's looked good, which is where Vic has had his best games.

Opposite to Charles who hasn't performed consistently in home games for a long time but has been a useful source of goals (as well as misses) away from home.

Aye I totally get the Vic criticism. But I always go back to he's probably the best man to get the most out of Charles.

Our league position suggested that anyway.

Charles head went with all the shit going on in his private life and he started missing open goals.

....that perfect storm again

13 hours ago, TroySwoosh said:

sorry but that's fucking stupid, think you need to goto bed pal

Made me chuckle did that!

3 hours ago, Stig said:

This is a good point tbh. Evatt looks completely spent and fed up. He needs to buck up before the play offs as his negativity can't be helping the team 

I'm certainly not in the dislike camp by any means, but he certainly frustrates me at times. 

Strangely, he had a similar spell whilst in league 2- not great on the pitch and a bit of a pouting demeanour. He clearly has strong belief in his ability and what he wants to do, but I think he gets affected when that stops yielding results. 

He certified is emotional, and as fans we have to take the rough with the smooth with some of his comments, but the real issue is the performance on the pitch.

If we weren't capable of doing great things, but we're whole hearted, we'd be less frustrated.

Unfortunately, they seem somewhat lacking in motivation, and quality. 

A bit of a malaise for sure.

Just hope there is a stonking atmosphere at kick off and early doors Monday, and the team respond, get ahead and make it count.

Take that forward into subsequent home games and see what happens.

On the plus side, Derby’s result means it’s less likely we can lose to the donkey lashers at Wembley.

Every cloud…

Collins scored 5 in 35 for Bristol.. hardly surprising he's not knocking then in for fun. 

2 (I count 3), in 12 for us,  is actually a much better return. 

 

2 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

Collins scored 5 in 35 for Bristol.. hardly surprising he's not knocking then in for fun. 

2 (I count 3), in 12 for us,  is actually a much better return. 

 

Think the problem is that he's trying to be a link up man and supply to a 47 year old or a fella who couldn't finish a plate of toast.

13 hours ago, TroySwoosh said:

sorry but that's fucking stupid, think you need to goto bed pal

😂

 

Still thinking it now in fairness. I don’t like him. Not sure it’s that outlandish a statement 

I think the over reation to a poor display yesterday will disappear when we beat Reading and Pompey beat Derby. Were 3rd in the league two games ago we put 5 passed Oxford followed by a good performance, if unlucky at Derby. Some of the comments on here are way over the top. Calm down.

8 minutes ago, waffer cup 07 said:

I think the over reation to a poor display yesterday will disappear when we beat Reading and Pompey beat Derby. Were 3rd in the league two games ago we put 5 passed Oxford followed by a good performance, if unlucky at Derby. Some of the comments on here are way over the top. Calm down.

It's pretty much turned in the BN comments section and twitter.

Sad times.

6 minutes ago, waffer cup 07 said:

I think the over reation to a poor display yesterday will disappear when we beat Reading and Pompey beat Derby. Were 3rd in the league two games ago we put 5 passed Oxford followed by a good performance, if unlucky at Derby. Some of the comments on here are way over the top. Calm down.

It’s because it was lacklustre but if Derby had lost yesterday the fans would be bouncing coming out the ground with us 3 points behind and a game in hand.

Dont think we have totally blown it yet but a Bolton and Pompey win Monday and Tuesday is a must

34 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

Collins scored 5 in 35 for Bristol.. hardly surprising he's not knocking then in for fun. 

2 (I count 3), in 12 for us,  is actually a much better return. 

 

Yes we knew when we signed him we were signing more of a creator/linker of play than a goalscorer.  Eg the assist at Barnsley for Vic was put on a sixpence, I'm not sure any of our forward players has the ability to do that?  He's put that type of ball in many times, not always converted obviously, so anyone saying they don't know what he brings to the team - its potential assists as well as occasional goals.  But he's not a goalscorer as such, same as Bod & Jerome (and Dan). 

I'm not defending his poor show yesterday, any more than I'd defend others like Sheehan, Tomo, Maghoma, JDC, Santos, Bod who were all either poor or just didn't get involved enough.  If Vic and Charles were asked to play up front while half the team don't turn up, I'd be amazed if they won us the game on their own, at a play off challenger, its never happened before.

Edited March 30, 20242 yr by Johnnyrotten

3 hours ago, radcliffe white said:

Other clubs have had to deal with injuries it’s about making sure you have the squad to deal with them, and for me especially in the forward department recruitment has been poor for a number of seasons now

 

The other clubs who had injuries found the character, dug in and changed style of play to try to negate injuries, for me it’s a character issue with this squad.. weak as piss when the chips are down. It’s not an ability issue it’s the character and desire within the squad that I think is lacking. 

16 minutes ago, gonzo said:

It's pretty much turned in the BN comments section and twitter.

Sad times.

Not sure that's true, it's almost all been pretty sensible debate. Evatt isn't bigger than the club, and criticism of his performance is justified this season 

10 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

The other clubs who had injuries found the character, dug in and changed style of play to try to negate injuries, for me it’s a character issue with this squad.. weak as piss when the chips are down. It’s not an ability issue it’s the character and desire within the squad that I think is lacking. 

Correctamundo.

I'm really not sure how a manager can instill that into a group of players.

 

15 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Correctamundo.

I'm really not sure how a manager can instill that into a group of players.

 

But is it their character or the way they are told to play??.

If we had changed shape yesterday and gone  4 5 1 for example, given our lack of strikers;, would that have given them a gee up to switch on a little and think about something other than the one and only way Evatt wants to win matches.

So is it their character, or do they just know deep down Evatt's way is limited in how many games we can win. It baffles me that a team woth so much attacking intent shit themselves when we go a goal behind, maybe it's because they know the stats and how hard it is for us to score against teams who sit deep??

40 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Correctamundo.

I'm really not sure how a manager can instill that into a group of players.

 

Bring in a leader a general, someone one who when the flack starts flying looks into the eyes of his teammates and demands that they stand up and be counted.

Edited March 30, 20242 yr by Mounts Kipper

8 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Bring in a leader a general, someone one who when the flack starts flying looks into the eyes of his teammates and demands that they stand up and be counted.

Barry Bannan and the likes. Those are the men that get you up, hook or by crook.

5 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Barry Bannan and the likes. Those are the men that get you up, hook or by crook.

And take you straight back down…powder puff.  We’ve half a team of powder puffs.🤣

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55 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Correctamundo.

I'm really not sure how a manager can instill that into a group of players.

 

That's ultimately his responsibility. It's his team, his players and his methods. 

He will have learned a lot about them now.

If they can't do what he wants, then he will have to rebuild with players that can.

Or become a bit more flexible and change things around a bit to suit.

7 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

That's ultimately his responsibility. It's his team, his players and his methods. 

He will have learned a lot about them now.

If they can't do what he wants, then he will have to rebuild with players that can.

Or become a bit more flexible and change things around a bit to suit.

Whatever happens I hope Evatt stays… he knows the squads strength and weaknesses, and is the best man to know what is needed, in general we’re on upward curve, changing manager does not guarantee success. Fans, board, have to be patient… fail to go up and he gets one more year for me. 

Edited March 30, 20242 yr by Mounts Kipper

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

Correctamundo.

I'm really not sure how a manager can instill that into a group of players.

 

I thought that was a managers job?

Certainly IE has spoke in the past of that being what Holloway did at Blackpool

Ian Holloway, who I played under at both QPR and Blackpool, really rammed home how important mentality and belief is for footballers.

Olly built a group of players at Blackpool who believed in themselves more than any other I’ve experienced. He created something magical there; promotion to the Premier League with a £3m budget is completely unheard of, and that was down to him and the mentality of that team. We just completely believed we were going to succeed."

 

AND

 

"It's been crazy, really. The gaffer came in during pre-season and picked the boys up straightaway.

"When he told us how he wanted to employ a more expansive style of play we looked at him like he was an alien.

"I didn't think we were capable of playing 4-3-3 but things just clicked and I've never seen a team improve so much, right from pre-season to end of the season.

"The gaffer has to take a lot of the credit for that because the boys have responded to him so well.

"He's always been an enthusiastic person and I played under him at QPR.

"Players are only human beings, we have off days.

"Sometimes you come into training not feeling great but you see the gaffer and he just picks you up straightaway.

"He loves his job and he loves us as players.

"We've done the best we can to repay the faith he has shown in us.".

7 minutes ago, Zico said:

I thought that was a managers job?

Certainly IE has spoke in the past of that being what Holloway did at Blackpool

Ian Holloway, who I played under at both QPR and Blackpool, really rammed home how important mentality and belief is for footballers.

Olly built a group of players at Blackpool who believed in themselves more than any other I’ve experienced. He created something magical there; promotion to the Premier League with a £3m budget is completely unheard of, and that was down to him and the mentality of that team. We just completely believed we were going to succeed.

 

"Players are only human beings, we have off days.

"Sometimes you come into training not feeling great but you see the gaffer and he just picks you up straightaway.

Perhaps there is a reason only Jerome had a career at league one above… he’s got the desire and mind set that’s light years ahead of most of our squad, from the current squad I don’t see many with the required mental strength, to play at a higher level  the ones who look to me like they might have it are Toal, Forrester, Thomason, Baxter, Dempsey, there is a raft of them who look bereft of mental strength. I’d love to see a Karl Henry type in this squad. 

Edited March 30, 20242 yr by Mounts Kipper