Welcome to today's fun time who we bigger than debate

First up...

Birmingham City.

Yay or Nay.

All round gut feeling is the key. 

3 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Barca are a legacy club mate. An absolute juggernaut.

Bigger than your boys. Not by much like but there's only United and Real above them. I'd have em level pegging with United tbh.

can't agree, we'll move on

15 hours ago, gonzo said:

Considering where we've been and where we are I reckon our numbers in past 10 years stack up to most.

Better numbers than latter stages of Prem.

Reckon folk will view us as pretty decent.

 

Boltons historic average attendance is 17k....which does lean to you have many years of some god-awfull crowds that most will ignore.

But, you are currently at what ?? Aorund 20k average for this season while playing in the 3rd division, and selling out away games. I would say thats very very good support, that only a certain amount of clubs would do.

Edited March 22, 20242 yr by Pablo

1 hour ago, Zico said:

Real Madrid 

Man Utd

Barcelona

Liverpool

AC Milan 

Juventus

Bayern Munich

 

Not necessarily in that order, but thems the biggest

Anyone else?

Inter.

1 hour ago, Zico said:

Real Madrid 

Man Utd

Barcelona

Liverpool

AC Milan 

Juventus

Bayern Munich

 

Not necessarily in that order, but thems the biggest

Anyone else?

If you're basing it on crowds, then maybe Benfica- their attendances this season are typically in the high 50k.

Also won two European cups- one fewer than Utd.

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Edited March 22, 20242 yr by Underpants

1 hour ago, L/H White said:

players choose money over history, it's not how it used to be 

 

Indeed. Ian Rush couldn't get on a plane to Juventus quick enough. 

1 hour ago, Pablo said:

Inter.

hard to disagree, won the same number of titles as AC (19), but "only" 3 european cups compared to AC's 7

but still 1 more than Juventus who've won it twice, however, they've won the title 36 times

still inclined to put them in tier 2 along with Ajax and Benfica

not sure where to put City and PSG, tier 2 or 3, not sure they have the pedigree for tier 2 alongside the Ajax's etc, but definitely not in the top tier

5 minutes ago, Zico said:

hard to disagree, won the same number of titles as AC (19), but "only" 3 european cups compared to AC's 7

but still 1 more than Juventus who've won it twice, however, they've won the title 36 times

still inclined to put them in tier 2 along with Ajax and Benfica

not sure where to put City and PSG, tier 2 or 3, not sure they have the pedigree for tier 2 alongside the Ajax's etc, but definitely not in the top tier

Ye, its a tough one and close on some criteria, then not on others.

Many factors really.

Getting all "geeky", points could be awarded for key criteria headers : euro trophies, domestic trophies, historic crowds, years in top league, highest finishes, cup wins, cup finals, consecutive years in ellite leagues, firsts (founder members etc), records.

That would help narrow down a more refined list.

 

28 minutes ago, Pablo said:

Ye, its a tough one and close on some criteria, then not on others.

Many factors really.

Getting all "geeky", points could be awarded for key criteria headers : euro trophies, domestic trophies, historic crowds, years in top league, highest finishes, cup wins, cup finals, consecutive years in ellite leagues, firsts (founder members etc), records.

That would help narrow down a more refined list.

 

The way that appears on my phone it looks like headers was one of you key criteria 

53 minutes ago, Zico said:

hard to disagree, won the same number of titles as AC (19), but "only" 3 european cups compared to AC's 7

but still 1 more than Juventus who've won it twice, however, they've won the title 36 times

still inclined to put them in tier 2 along with Ajax and Benfica

not sure where to put City and PSG, tier 2 or 3, not sure they have the pedigree for tier 2 alongside the Ajax's etc, but definitely not in the top tier

You are gonna be in trouble with @DazBob

Bit of perspective derby have sold 2100 tickets for Portsmouth on a Tuesday live on sky we wouldn’t get near that, if we go up our support will seem very average compared to others some big hitters in championship 

14 minutes ago, radcliffe white said:

Bit of perspective derby have sold 2100 tickets for Portsmouth on a Tuesday live on sky we wouldn’t get near that, if we go up our support will seem very average compared to others some big hitters in championship 

It's an extra 2 hour round trip for us compared to Derby. Also it's later in the season and a bigger game than it was for us in December.

They only brought 2,800 to us this season, we brought 3,000 to them.

Our support is extremely good for this level and would still be good in the Championship regardless.

28 minutes ago, Lostock Whites said:

It's an extra 2 hour round trip for us compared to Derby. Also it's later in the season and a bigger game than it was for us in December.

They only brought 2,800 to us this season, we brought 3,000 to them.

Our support is extremely good for this level and would still be good in the Championship regardless.

Charged them £30 this time

 And the 5k the year before on tv yet again we could only dream of that

it would be mid range in the championship especially when you throw in live tv picks & high prices 

 

Edited March 22, 20242 yr by radcliffe white

Never had Derby down as good travellers tbh

22 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Never had Derby down as good travellers tbh

Didn’t they bring about 300 in their record breaking season 07/08

4 hours ago, radcliffe white said:

Bit of perspective derby have sold 2100 tickets for Portsmouth on a Tuesday live on sky we wouldn’t get near that, if we go up our support will seem very average compared to others some big hitters in championship 

I reckon we'd sell that easy.

4 hours ago, radcliffe white said:

Bit of perspective derby have sold 2100 tickets for Portsmouth on a Tuesday live on sky we wouldn’t get near that, if we go up our support will seem very average compared to others some big hitters in championship 

If we were in Derby’s position we would undoubtedly sell that out. 

10 hours ago, Underpants said:

Indeed. Ian Rush couldn't get on a plane to Juventus quick enough. 

....or John Charles the same trip way before Rush.

Real Madrid and Inter assembled teams of 'galactico's' in the 50's. Money talked then too - they came from everywhere.

5 hours ago, radcliffe white said:

Bit of perspective derby have sold 2100 tickets for Portsmouth on a Tuesday live on sky we wouldn’t get near that, if we go up our support will seem very average compared to others some big hitters in championship 

I don’t think Derby support is all that, on many occasions they’ve brought poor support when they’ve played us. 

9 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

....or John Charles the same trip way before Rush.

Real Madrid and Inter assembled teams of 'galactico's' in the 50's. Money talked then too - they came from everywhere.

Not forgetting that Jimmy Greaves followed the lira too.

1 hour ago, victor meldrew said:

Didn’t they bring about 300 in their record breaking season 07/08

Exactly they ain’t all that… neither are Pompey. 

We are bigger than all of em. 

6 minutes ago, tomski said:

We are bigger than all of em. 

Is the correct attitude.

Just now, bolty58 said:

Is the correct attitude.

They are the club I’d travel furthest to watch. Logic says they’d win

15 hours ago, radcliffe white said:

Bit of perspective derby have sold 2100 tickets for Portsmouth on a Tuesday live on sky we wouldn’t get near that, if we go up our support will seem very average compared to others some big hitters in championship 

If we were all hell-bent on crowd sizes compared with others we’d surely want to be relegated to EFL 2. We’d really be massive again!