Wigan Athletic (A)

[TrickyTrotter]

12 hours ago, Zico said:

Also I get keeping us in but not letting anyone on the concourse with 10 minutes to go caused a bit of aggro 

Mates lad needed a piss on 85 mins by then fair few crammed around top of stairs arguing with cops and stewards 

Managed to get him after much effort and pleading through the crush and for a piss but couldn't get back up

At one point cop trying to push them up he stairs into the fans trying to get down

Poor lad got scared so they stayed down and missed the goal

It's a shit stand and not fit for large crowds 

 

Is it legal to keep us all up in the stand?  What legal power are the police using?   Presumably none of us were arrested or formally detained.

I guess if anyone challenged their legal authority they would just reduce ticket allocations for future games.

[Leyther_Matt]

6 minutes ago, TrickyTrotter said:

Is it legal to keep us all up in the stand?  What legal power are the police using?   Presumably none of us were arrested or formally detained.

I guess if anyone challenged their legal authority they would just reduce ticket allocations for future games.

Ticket Ts & Cs that you need to follow the instructions of stewards/police

[Ani]

5 minutes ago, TrickyTrotter said:

 

Is it legal to keep us all up in the stand?  What legal power are the police using?   Presumably none of us were arrested or formally detained.

I guess if anyone challenged their legal authority they would just reduce ticket allocations for future games.

Think you will find by going into the ground you agree to abide by their rules. 
 

TBF last night was the most enjoyable ‘lock in’ at a football game I can remember. 

[Dimron]

6 minutes ago, TrickyTrotter said:

 

Is it legal to keep us all up in the stand?  What legal power are the police using?   Presumably none of us were arrested or formally detained.

I guess if anyone challenged their legal authority they would just reduce ticket allocations for future games.

The place was built on the cheap (I had nothing to do with it)... I do not know how they got their licence considering what we had to go through on other grounds, maybe because it wasn't a ruffty tuffty football stadium but a Rugby League venue?

[Leyther_Matt]

Just now, Dimron said:

The place was built on the cheap (I had nothing to do with it)... I do not know how they got their licence considering what we had to go through on other grounds, maybe because it wasn't a ruffty tuffty football stadium but a Rugby League venue?

Licensing is the same regardless of sport

I’ve posted on here previously that Wigan was actually used as a standard bearer for very specifically designing the away fan area. Big concourse, flexible segregation options, wheelchair platforms. Even the car park and coach access was with a direct route from the stand with zero contact with home fans. And then peg leg decided he was changing the away end when they went up to the Prem and that was that. 

[bwfc2003]

1 hour ago, Dimron said:

Missed most of the first half as my old dog had a big "fit" 10 mins before kick off and I was snuggled up with him on his bean bag while he got over it. He's as right as rain today.

Not good TV... the shirts were too similar

I thought that at the game 

[Zico]

8 minutes ago, Ani said:

Think you will find by going into the ground you agree to abide by their rules. 
 

TBF last night was the most enjoyable ‘lock in’ at a football game I can remember. 

Utd in 2001 when we won 2-1 was good

As was the police escort all the way back to deansgate with Utd waiting along the way in various places 

[Dimron]

2 minutes ago, bwfc2003 said:

I thought that at the game 

It was worse on the telly

[Zico]

24 minutes ago, Underpants said:

Are you sure? It's not up to the ref to make sure everyone is in position. As long as everyone is in the right half then it's fair game. I'm sure I've seen it happen somewhere. 

No I'm not sure but surely it's up to ref when Wigan can kick off as opposed to up to Wigan 

And I doubt he's blowing his whistle when all the players are celebrating in front of the away end without at least going to them first and ushering them on

[Dr Faustus]

2 hours ago, Dr. Feelgood said:

My goodness I was wrong about him back in the day.

He must have been something in his peak. He just made space around himself & no-one was getting that high ball but him.

I include a pic of me last week- far from my pomp… can’t run, can’t jump… barely move- but you either drag folk around and create space, or you’re just a menace

 

 Marshall could do that and then some

[Ani]

Just now, Zico said:

No I'm not sure but surely it's up to ref when Wigan can kick off as opposed to up to Wigan 

And I doubt he's blowing his whistle when all the players are celebrating in front of the away end without at least going to them first and ushering them on

There is nothing in the rules/laws that say the defending team have to be ‘set’ . Common sense would say do not start the game, but refs this season are not loaded with that ! 

[Underpants]

13 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Ticket Ts & Cs that you need to follow the instructions of stewards/police

During the dark days of playing a makeshift team we got battered at Wigan. Folk started to leave on 60 mins. Police couldn't have stopped them even if they wanted to. I remember it well because that day it absolutely pissed it down.

[Casino]

2 minutes ago, Ani said:

There is nothing in the rules/laws that say the defending team have to be ‘set’ . Common sense would say do not start the game, but refs this season are not loaded with that ! 

I think the sooner teams are given 20/30 seconds to celebrate a goal, the better

Then the game can restart

[TrickyTrotter]

17 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said:

Ticket Ts & Cs that you need to follow the instructions of stewards/police

 

17 minutes ago, Ani said:

Think you will find by going into the ground you agree to abide by their rules. 
 

TBF last night was the most enjoyable ‘lock in’ at a football game I can remember. 

The lock in was fun, but imagine the mood if we had conceded on 90+2.

The T+Cs may say this and that, but under what legal power can they stop you leaving.  None( to my knowledge) unless you are arrested or detained by a police officer.

[gonzo]

5 minutes ago, Dr Faustus said:

I include a pic of me last week- far from my pomp… can’t run, can’t jump… barely move- but you either drag folk around and create space, or you’re just a menace

 

 Marshall could do that and then some

Spot the ball

[Leyther_Matt]

5 minutes ago, Underpants said:

During the dark days of playing a makeshift team we got battered at Wigan. Folk started to leave on 60 mins. Police couldn't have stopped them even if they wanted to. I remember it well because that day it absolutely pissed it down.

We were supping downstairs just after half time and came back up just in time for Remi Matthews to gift them a goal. Proper comic timing, just turned back round in the same movement without a word being said.

2 minutes ago, TrickyTrotter said:

The lock in was fun, but imagine the mood if we had conceded on 90+2.

The T+Cs may say this and that, but under what legal power can they stop you leaving.  None( to my knowledge) unless you are arrested or detained by a police officer.

Was on police instruction so in reality you would be you’d probably be detained for breach of the peace tbh if you forcibly tried it

[bwfc2003]

Not sure anything in the Ts and cs gives them powers to prevent you having a pee

[Dr Faustus]

4 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Spot the ball

Defo not the back of the net 😂

[Ani]

41 minutes ago, Underpants said:

Are you sure? It's not up to the ref to make sure everyone is in position. As long as everyone is in the right half then it's fair game. I'm sure I've seen it happen somewhere. 

Just checked it was the Anelka game v Arsenal after he scored the worldie. They kicked off whilst we were celebrating and won a corner, which again they took quickly and Gilberto Silva scored. 

Edited April 2, 2025 by Ani

[Zico]

9 minutes ago, Ani said:

There is nothing in the rules/laws that say the defending team have to be ‘set’ . Common sense would say do not start the game, but refs this season are not loaded with that ! 

No, but it's to the ref 

I read undies post as suggesting Wigan could've gone ahead and kicked off whilst we were celebrating the goal as though it was up to them which it is not 

And I've never seen a match restart with players still celebrating 

[Underpants]

4 minutes ago, Zico said:

No I'm not sure but surely it's up to ref when Wigan can kick off as opposed to up to Wigan 

And I doubt he's blowing his whistle when all the players are celebrating in front of the away end without at least going to them first and ushering them on

Like I said it's not up to the ref to arrange a team. Anyway, it looked as though it could have happened yesterday. Slightly different but I remember Sol Campbell celebrating a late winner against Argentina (I think). He was in the corner with everyone and Argentina charged up the pitch from the free kick. Yes it's different but the same principle. Get organized.

Anyway I think it's a thing.

[Ani]

2 minutes ago, Underpants said:

Like I said it's not up to the ref to arrange a team. Anyway, it looked as though it could have happened yesterday. Slightly different but I remember Sol Campbell celebrating a late winner against Argentina (I think). He was in the corner with everyone and Argentina charged up the pitch from the free kick. Yes it's different but the same principle. Get organized.

Anyway I think it's a thing.

The ref has to blow his whistle for a kick off.

Does not need to a free kick. 

[jayjayoghani]

19 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Spot the ball

Spot the plyometrics too

[Underpants]

2 minutes ago, Ani said:

The ref has to blow his whistle for a kick off.

Does not need to a free kick. 

I know. I did say it was slightly different. But if the ref is ready and the team kicking off is ready then why not start. How often have we seen players ask a ref if they can take a free kick early while the defending team and keeper are faffing about with a wall. 

Like I said I reckon its a thing. And it seemed to be an issue last night.

[Ani]

1 minute ago, Underpants said:

I know. I did say it was slightly different. But if the ref is ready and the team kicking off is ready then why not start. How often have we seen players ask a ref if they can take a free kick early while the defending team and keeper are faffing about with a wall. 

Like I said I reckon its a thing. And it seemed to be an issue last night.

You are right it could happen, and has against us. But McAtee standing in their half meant they could not restart.