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CLUB WORLD CUP

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2 hours ago, waffer cup 07 said:

So a team that finished 4th in the Premiership, have been crowned World Champions. Joke of a competition. Trophy presented by a clown.

Or it illustrates how far ahead of every other league the English Premier League is?

English teams, including Chelsea, won two of the three European club competition. The so-called powerhouse, PSG, actually showed little dominance against English teams. They needed penalties to beat Liverpool (the best English team) scraped past Aston Villa (who finished 6th in the Premier League) and were given a game by Arsenal (who had previously beaten them in the league phase, where PSG finished only 12th).

PS: The trophy was presented by the President of the United States. Your political beliefs are not relevant to a football conversation.

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5 hours ago, waffer cup 07 said:

So a team that finished 4th in the Premiership, have been crowned World Champions. Joke of a competition. Trophy presented by a clown.

No more of a joke than a team finishing 4th in their own league winning the 'Champions' League.

I agree with you btw.

6 hours ago, waffer cup 07 said:

So a team that finished 4th in the Premiership, have been crowned World Champions. Joke of a competition. Trophy presented by a clown.

Wouldn't trust Infantino as far as I could throw him. Bent as Blatter? Probably.

I don’t think you can read anything into this. I’m fairly convinced Inter and Man City decided they’d earnt enough and went home. 

Im not sure they can pass this as a success. I’ve watched it and out and really don’t see what it brings other than financial reward.
 

49 minutes ago, tomski said:

I don’t think you can read anything into this. I’m fairly convinced Inter and Man City decided they’d earnt enough and went home. 

Im not sure they can pass this as a success. I’ve watched it and out and really don’t see what it brings other than financial reward.
 

Agreed. Cue loads of shouts of 'too much football' & 'exhausted players' ... but it was about £90m for winning it.

The money helps with FFP or whatever they called it now.

1 hour ago, tomski said:

I don’t think you can read anything into this. I’m fairly convinced Inter and Man City decided they’d earnt enough and went home. 

Im not sure they can pass this as a success. I’ve watched it and out and really don’t see what it brings other than financial reward.
 

The whole point of it is to help FIFA wrest control from UEFA

I do think that in theory the concept of a Club World Cup could be genuinely brilliant

2 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Wouldn't trust Infantino as far as I could throw him. Bent as Blatter? Probably.

He's worse than Blatter, which takes some doing

52 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

The whole point of it is to help FIFA wrest control from UEFA

I do think that in theory the concept of a Club World Cup could be genuinely brilliant

Yep, the clash of styles can be fascinating. The World Cup is sensational for the same reasons.

From the Battle of Santiago in 1962 to the Antonio Rattin incident to the 1978 Final to Germany humiliating Brazil on their own patch. Enthralling stuff.

Just not sure how this could work other than abandoning either all or some of the Champions League and Copa Libertadores and replacing them with this? Not going to happen is it?

Europe and South America mentioned. Let's be honest, that's what it's all about. The rest is just fol-de-rol. People have been telling me since 1974 that it won't be long until an African country wins the World Cup. Still waiting.

 

2 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

The whole point of it is to help FIFA wrest control from UEFA

I do think that in theory the concept of a Club World Cup could be genuinely brilliant

Yeah understand all that. 
 

See I just don’t. Bet like the intercontinental cup and stuff. Money will change it but I’m not sure FIFA would empty the vaults every 4 years to host it. I’m not sure it’s done enough to capture media attention to get the big guns to sign up. 

56 minutes ago, tomski said:

Yeah understand all that. 
 

See I just don’t. Bet like the intercontinental cup and stuff. Money will change it but I’m not sure FIFA would empty the vaults every 4 years to host it. I’m not sure it’s done enough to capture media attention to get the big guns to sign up. 

Saudis have it next time, money won't be an issue. They bunged a billion dollars to Dazn so they could bid a decent amount for the TV rights. ITV offered £0 and it was still the best offer they'd had. Even then no one subscribed to Dazn for it and they had to strike a deal with Channel 5

1 hour ago, tomski said:

Yeah understand all that. 
 

See I just don’t. Bet like the intercontinental cup and stuff. Money will change it but I’m not sure FIFA would empty the vaults every 4 years to host it. I’m not sure it’s done enough to capture media attention to get the big guns to sign up. 

I doubt it'd remain in its current format for very long

I think the long-term plan it to shape it into the same format as the CL and have it replace it

1 hour ago, tomski said:

Yeah understand all that. 
 

See I just don’t. Bet like the intercontinental cup and stuff. Money will change it but I’m not sure FIFA would empty the vaults every 4 years to host it. I’m not sure it’s done enough to capture media attention to get the big guns to sign up. 

Aye, seconded.

Bit like cricket- trying to milk the cow too often.

Whether they actually want a world super league who knows.

Bag o' shite for me.

All about money way too much football.

16 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I doubt it'd remain in its current format for very long

I think the long-term plan it to shape it into the same format as the CL and have it replace it

can't see it replacing the CL

you're not getting a global midweek midseason tournament going on

CL gets 36 teams in total, plus another 50 in the qualifiers - all of Europe having a crack and getting into it each season

the CWC has 12 teams from Europe

no way it's going to replace it, UEFA woudln't stand for it, neither would most of the clubs

6 minutes ago, Zico said:

can't see it replacing the CL

you're not getting a global midweek midseason tournament going on

CL gets 36 teams in total, plus another 50 in the qualifiers - all of Europe having a crack and getting into it each season

the CWC has 12 teams from Europe

no way it's going to replace it, UEFA woudln't stand for it, neither would most of the clubs

The clubs will do what they think is in their best interests

If it looks like FIFA might be capable of getting this off the ground, the balance of power could shift quickly

44 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

The clubs will do what they think is in their best interests

If it looks like FIFA might be capable of getting this off the ground, the balance of power could shift quickly

can't see European teams jetting off to anywhere in the southern hemisphere for a midweek game to be honest

 

well I enjoyed it, you're all a bunch of miserable fuckers 🤠😁😋

9 minutes ago, TroySwoosh said:

well I enjoyed it, you're all a bunch of miserable fuckers 🤠😁😋

I'd rather watch Evattball.

39 minutes ago, Zico said:

can't see European teams jetting off to anywhere in the southern hemisphere for a midweek game to be honest

 

Me neither, though I'm sure there could be some creative thinking

I don't think it'll happen, but I don't think it's as remote a possibility as a lot of people think

Fans reacted against the idea of a European super league, including those of clubs expected to be in there. 

Cannot see any circumstance where that attitude would change, especially when such a tournament goes beyond Europe.

25 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Fans reacted against the idea of a European super league, including those of clubs expected to be in there. 

Cannot see any circumstance where that attitude would change, especially when such a tournament goes beyond Europe.

and Im sure the current CL, EL and ECL formats were introduced to move towards a UEFA controlled super league so should keep everyone happy for a while

58 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Fans reacted against the idea of a European super league, including those of clubs expected to be in there. 

Cannot see any circumstance where that attitude would change, especially when such a tournament goes beyond Europe.

The pushback from supporters was primarily because there was no qualification 

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