Bradford City (H) - EFL Trophy

[desperado]

18 minutes ago, Eddie said:

Still think it’s misleading just based on the occasion (lack of fans) and effort from those players.

I don’t think that players start half-arsed, but you only need to look at the amount of 3, 4, 5 and 6s being scored tonight in the competition which tells you all you need to know about players’ desire to put full effort in when they go behind.

We’ve played really well, and shouldn’t take away from that, but these lot have played at about 70% since the 3rd went in - hence it could easily have been 7 or 8 if we took some of the ridiculous amount of chances.

Spot on.

Comments on how players have played well in that game are valid. As are comments about the depth of our squad.

Sweeping statements about players (positive or negative) are misplaced in my opinion, because of the nature of the game.

I think it’s ridiculous if we were to surmise that Erhahon must start against Mansfield & Taylor must play CB from now on. 

[masi 51]

13 minutes ago, desperado said:

Never again? 😂

I’m not sure a 15 min cameo at CB against a team who’d downed tools, is enough to make that judgement!

He linked up well Cissoko at LB (as he has done a few times this season) 

Gets caught out when he pushes forward.....Nothing wrong in his link up play but forgets to track back

Obviously if Conway needs a rest or gets injured he would fill in there

 

[masi 51]

3 minutes ago, desperado said:

Spot on.

Comments on how players have played well in that game are valid. As are comments about the depth of our squad.

Sweeping statements about players (positive or negative) are misplaced in my opinion, because of the nature of the game.

I think it’s ridiculous if we were to surmise that Erhahon must start against Mansfield & Taylor must play CB from now on. 

I will put it in anyway you want   Erhahon and Simons need to play every league game

Taylor is understudy to Conway so will play there if/when Conway needs a rest/injured.....At the end of the day it is SS call

I would counter your thoughts by saying if he does not play Simons Erhahon at Mansfield it would be Ridiculous

[bwfc4ife]

4 minutes ago, desperado said:

Spot on.

Comments on how players have played well in that game are valid. As are comments about the depth of our squad.

Sweeping statements about players (positive or negative) are misplaced in my opinion, because of the nature of the game.

I think it’s ridiculous if we were to surmise that Erhahon must start against Mansfield & Taylor must play CB from now on. 

I think Erhahon should 💯 start away from home with Simons. Simon’s puts a foot in and is a tidy player with some bite and they complement each other well. We’re just too weak in the middle away from home with either Morley or Sheehan. This is where the games won/lost and our away form backs that up. I’ve been one of Sheehan’s biggest critics and credit were it’s due the last few games, but away from home I still feel we have a soft centre

[Whitesince63]

After tonight and I know we can’t get carried away with one performance, do we really need ACD? I actually thought we looked much more dangerous because we brought so many other players into the game, we certainly created more chances than we have this season. I accept Bradford were sub strength but I thought the way that Forss, Randall, the midfield and full backs worked together was superb and the players looked so much more confident and quicker. I love ACD but it makes you think is the team a better unit without him?

[Marc505]

Just now, Whitesince63 said:

After tonight and I know we can’t get carried away with one performance, do we really need ACD? I actually thought we looked much more dangerous because we brought so many other players into the game, we certainly created more chances than we have this season. I accept Bradford were sub strength but I thought the way that Forss, Randall, the midfield and full backs worked together was superb and the players looked so much more confident and quicker. I love ACD but it makes you think is the team a better unit without him?

I can see why rage bait is word of the year.

[desperado]

1 minute ago, masi 51 said:

I will put it in anyway you want   Erhahon and Simons need to play every league game

Taylor is understudy to Conway so will play there if/when Conway needs a rest/injured.....At the end of the day it is SS call

I would counter your thoughts by saying if he does not play Simons Erhahon at Mansfield it would be Ridiculous

As good as he was tonight (as were the whole squad!) Erhahon was blowing out of his arse after 35 mins.

I predicted he would be subbed early - he was.

My statement was that it would be ridiculous to judge 35 mins of great play in an EFL game as justification to play in a league game - reasonable in most people’s eyes I would think.

Now he may go on to have effective game time Saturday, train well and be in the mix for Mansfield - but I’d be surprised. (Nicely surprised because I rate him)

To claim that not playing Erhahon/Simons at Mansfield is ridiculous is misplaced, not only for the reasons outlined above, but also because there are other valid options that SS could well consider more appropriate for next Tuesday.

[Leyther_Matt]

Just back. Starting to enjoy the freedom that this competition offers. Solid at the back and showed some great touches going forward, 6-0 or 7-0 wouldn’t have been flattering. Harrogate away in the next round, please!

[desperado]

6 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said:

After tonight and I know we can’t get carried away with one performance, do we really need ACD?

Come on! You’re having a laugh! Surely??! 🤣

[Tonge moor green jacket]

5 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said:

After tonight and I know we can’t get carried away with one performance, do we really need ACD? I actually thought we looked much more dangerous because we brought so many other players into the game, we certainly created more chances than we have this season. I accept Bradford were sub strength but I thought the way that Forss, Randall, the midfield and full backs worked together was superb and the players looked so much more confident and quicker. I love ACD but it makes you think is the team a better unit without him?

It is just one game though.

Sometimes teams work hard to nullify ACD, but that isn't necessarily a reflection of him not performing on the day, but maybe team mates not taking advantage of space created elsewhere.

A more complex situation than simply 'are we better without him'.

[waffer cup 07]

That's the best Randall has played since joining. Not that he's had much to beat.

[RUREADY2ROLL]

Christie was brilliant 

[worthy10]

An enigma of being successful in sport is playing with freedom and confidence. We were so good in that 2nd half. Squandered a few chances as usual but oh to be able to play with that swagger in league games. 

[bwfc4ife]

The answer to the ACD problem is simple, swap the two wingers over in the game a couple times problem sorted 

[ianofcleveleys]

1 hour ago, desperado said:

A right and left footer in the middle looks good too - it always seems balanced to me.

I do think Erhahon is puffing a bit and that will probably deteriorate into 2nd half. I’m sure he’ll be replaced. Understandable after his injury. Part of the reason I wasn’t clamouring for him against Luton. 

Erhahon is one of those 'lovely left peg' players, looks after the ball very well and sends it to people with the right weight on it. 

My only reservation before he got injured was he maybe didn't have the sort of engine I expected (maybe I hadn't done my homework of course) and was struggling to sustain his efforts into the last 20 mins of games.

Ideal one for him to start tonight, maybe a week or two though before he starts a league game

[desperado]

11 minutes ago, bwfc4ife said:

I think Erhahon should 💯 start away from home with Simons

In the future, maybe, I just think next Tuesday will come too soon.

But let’s see, even though I’m offering an alternative option for Mansfield , I would be really happy to see him start - I rate him.

But unlike a few others I think we have other good midfield options too - combinations that will be fitter and better prepared for next Tuesday.

One things for sure if Erhahon starts and we lose, I won’t be coming on here saying SS got it wrong, I can’t understand what he was doing! (Unlike a few others I could mention!) 

 

[Whitesince63]

4 minutes ago, desperado said:

Come on! You’re having a laugh! Surely??! 🤣

Read it all don’t just pick bits you want. If he gets recalled in January which is entirely possible the team on tonight’s performance could actually perform at least as well so of course we’d miss the excitement and his individual ability but I’m not sure it would weaken us as much as we may think. We’re not a one man team are we?

[gonzo]

15 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said:

After tonight and I know we can’t get carried away with one performance, do we really need ACD? I actually thought we looked much more dangerous because we brought so many other players into the game, we certainly created more chances than we have this season. I accept Bradford were sub strength but I thought the way that Forss, Randall, the midfield and full backs worked together was superb and the players looked so much more confident and quicker. I love ACD but it makes you think is the team a better unit without him?

Fuck me

[Whitesince63]

Just now, gonzo said:

Fuck me

No thanks.

[desperado]

5 minutes ago, bwfc4ife said:

The answer to the ACD problem

What problem?! 😂

Crikey how does an EFL trophy game that we win 3-0 turn into a problem with our best player!

I think I’d better go to bed! 😂

[burnden]

 

[worthy10]

Ehrahrahon is so much more than Morley, surely a more dynamic and robust alternative

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Just now, desperado said:

What problem?! 😂

Crikey how does an EFL trophy game that we win 3-0 turn into a problem with our best player!

I think I’d better go to bed! 😂

He was more meaning the inverted wingers situation.

At times, I wouldn't them swapping over too, even if it is only for a few minutes.

[L/H White]

so tonight we've got Forrester doing a job in DM and dropping ACD

[Zico]

24 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said:

After tonight and I know we can’t get carried away with one performance, do we really need ACD? I actually thought we looked much more dangerous because we brought so many other players into the game, we certainly created more chances than we have this season. I accept Bradford were sub strength but I thought the way that Forss, Randall, the midfield and full backs worked together was superb and the players looked so much more confident and quicker. I love ACD but it makes you think is the team a better unit without him?

Aye you on fucking crack?