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Bradford Home - 1st Leg Saturday 9th May

Same process as before - you can secure your own seats.

Need to put yesterday’s disappointment behind us and fill the place.

Let’s take a good lead over to Bradford.

On the piss in the afternoon prior to an 8pm kick-off on a Saturday, should make it a belting atmosphere under the lights.

COYFWM 👏

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3 minutes ago, desperado said:

I reckon it’s likely.

More than good enough to do a job today.

Go on then, what’s your master plan? 

Let’s be honest, it could be Dalby and Kenny up top for all we know. Rumours are just that.

That line up just feels like you’ve got all the support you could need but you’re battling with a blunt frontline (bit harsh on Burstow but combined with McAtee just doesn’t inspire me).

2 minutes ago, desperado said:

 

See above ⬆️ 

I have no Master plan and neither will SS he i not changing anything now......Will be Johnston in for conway

Two in the centre and Dalby, Burstow up top....Two wingers again which i have no problem with at home

If Dalby does not make it RR goes into the ten and either Erhahon or Simons comes in and partners Sheehan

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1 minute ago, Eddie said:

Let’s be honest, it could be Dalby and Kenny up top for all we know. Rumours are just that.

That line up just feels like you’ve got all the support you could need but you’re battling with a blunt frontline (bit harsh on Burstow but combined with McAtee just doesn’t inspire me).

Kenny is out - we are not going to hear anything official till after the game, or more likely confirmed at 6:45 when the teams announced.

More of an opinion and educated guess about Dalby - he could start but I don’t think he will.

So the only two realistic and sensible alternatives, if that’s the case, is Rodrigues, Mcatee or Dempsey in a 10. 

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1 minute ago, masi 51 said:

I have no Master plan and neither will SS he i not changing anything now......Will be Johnston in for conway

Two in the centre and Dalby, Burstow up top....Two wingers again which i have no problem with at home

If Dalby does not make it RR goes into the ten and either Erhahon or Simons comes in and partners Sheehan

Not a million miles away then.

The only difference from my opinion is that Mcatee will be a consideration. 

2 minutes ago, desperado said:

Not a million miles away then.

The only difference from my opinion is that Mcatee will be a consideration. 

No my team is a million miles away from yours because it includes Kenny

2 minutes ago, desperado said:

Kenny is out - we are not going to hear anything official till after the game, or more likely confirmed at 6:45 when the teams announced.

More of an opinion and educated guess about Dalby - he could start but I don’t think he will.

So the only two realistic and sensible alternatives, if that’s the case, is Rodrigues, Mcatee or Dempsey in a 10. 

I’m clinging to the idea that this whole Kenny thing is a grand plan - very much hope rather than expectation.

If Kenny isn’t fit and Dalby is even close to fitness then my guess would be that he starts, he’s a battler and I think is one that would declare himself fit when only 70% there.

If it is genuinely worst case scenario and Kenny is out and Dalby is only fit enough for the bench (with an eye on him starting on Thursday) then we are a bit fucked any which way we go.

Personally, I think McAtee has proven that he’s a waste of space. Doesn’t offer much going forward but also doesn’t bolster us in midfield, it’s like playing with 10.5 players. I’d accept the fact that we’re going to be weaker up top, put an extra midfielder in (any of EE, Simons or Dempsey) and at least improve the midfield by making us more solid. It also means you’d be able to give your wingers a bit more freedom as they’d have extra coverage and I’d specifically be telling ACD to float wherever he wants and get around Burstow at every opportunity.

The crux of it is my view on McAtee. He’s lose / lose in terms of attack / midfield, whereas at least one of the other 3 is lose / win.

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1 minute ago, masi 51 said:

No my team is a million miles away from yours because it includes Kenny

Yes but he’s not playing 😂

My team would also include him if he wasn’t injured.

So, let’s break this down slowly for you, our team predictions, if Kenny and Dalby don’t start are not a million miles away from each other.

In fact let’s get rid of the common idiom, other than the selection of one player they are pretty much the same.

That isn’t my preferred team, it’s the team I’m predicting will start.

I also would have Kenny and Dalby starting if I thought they were fit enough to do so.

32 minutes ago, barrycowdrill said:

The same still applies today. That’s our job, let the lads do theirs 

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That guy was class

Are people convinced Kenny is not playing ? Or working on that assumption hoping to be wrong ? 
 

I get SS will not want to give team details away but putting a dampener on things at 6:45 is surely not what we need ? Whereas if the team includes Dalby and Kenny it lifts things just before kick off. So I am hoping the rumours are an elaborate smoke screen. 

31 minutes ago, desperado said:

I’d be happy with that.

But I don’t see SS going the same way.

Now or never for Mcatee

That depresses the shit out of me. Thank the lord I’m away with no access to sky tv

4 minutes ago, desperado said:

Yes but he’s not playing 😂

My team would also include him if he wasn’t injured.

So, let’s break this down slowly for you, our team predictions, if Kenny and Dalby don’t start are not a million miles away from each other.

In fact let’s get rid of the common idiom, other than the selection of one player they are pretty much the same.

That isn’t my preferred team, it’s the team I’m predicting will start.

I also would have Kenny and Dalby starting if I thought they were fit enough to do so.

I will play along......Keeper would be replaced with the young lad from Fleetwood Erhahon  would go into the left back spot if fit

Midfield three and Dalby Burstow up top........Cissoko,Johnston and Bonham dropped........Whats the worse that could happen

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6 minutes ago, Eddie said:

I’m clinging to the idea that this whole Kenny thing is a grand plan - very much hope rather than expectation.

If Kenny isn’t fit and Dalby is even close to fitness then my guess would be that he starts, he’s a battler and I think is one that would declare himself fit when only 70% there.

If it is genuinely worst case scenario and Kenny is out and Dalby is only fit enough for the bench (with an eye on him starting on Thursday) then we are a bit fucked any which way we go.

Personally, I think McAtee has proven that he’s a waste of space. Doesn’t offer much going forward but also doesn’t bolster us in midfield, it’s like playing with 10.5 players. I’d accept the fact that we’re going to be weaker up top, put an extra midfielder in (any of EE, Simons or Dempsey) and at least improve the midfield by making us more solid. It also means you’d be able to give your wingers a bit more freedom as they’d have extra coverage and I’d specifically be telling ACD to float wherever he wants and get around Burstow at every opportunity.

The crux of it is my view on McAtee. He’s lose / lose in terms of attack / midfield, whereas at least one of the other 3 is lose / win.

Thank goodness, someone reasonable to debate with.

Maybe I’m trying to convince myself that the worst case scenario up front isn’t that bad. 😂

I hear what you are saying on Mcatee. You make a reasonable judgement on both his time here so far and what you feel his contribution will/won’t bring to the party tonight.

I’m certainly no fan boy of his and I can only agree that his time with us so far has been a frustrating, truncated (through injury/suspension) and inconsistent affair.

I can only hope that the good flashes we have seen; good link up play with a number 9, passion, trickery and a reasonable goal threat, would be in abundance for the biggest games of his career.

But I certainly won’t be pinning my hopes on him! 

 

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2 minutes ago, masi 51 said:

I will play along......Keeper would be replaced with the young lad from Fleetwood Erhahon  would go into the left back spot if fit

Midfield three and Dalby Burstow up top........Cissoko,Johnston and Bonham dropped........Whats the worse that could happen

Jesus wept! 😂😉

7 minutes ago, Ani said:

Are people convinced Kenny is not playing ? Or working on that assumption hoping to be wrong ? 
 

I get SS will not want to give team details away but putting a dampener on things at 6:45 is surely not what we need ? Whereas if the team includes Dalby and Kenny it lifts things just before kick off. So I am hoping the rumours are an elaborate smoke screen. 

Given that he's been seen at training ground and at an airport in a league brace (quotes from on here), I'd say yes they are convinced. 

Unless SS is an ultra deceptionist 

Just now, desperado said:

Jesus wept! 😂😉

you see i look outside the box.....you are just playing along to SS thoughts, they are not your own. Everything this morning is centred about missing Kenny and Maybe Dalby but we have a keeper that has conceded 24 goals in 48 shots 50%

A Centre back who will be playing left back, a converted winger at right back and a captain and centre back woefully out of form.

That is the harsh reality of where we are......Last week should have been a time for experimenting against Luton

So today it will be once again Same ole, same ole

1 hour ago, desperado said:Team prediction time. Knowing that Kenny is out and the likelihood that Dalby will start on the bench, It’s going to be an interesting call for the front line.

I’m going for Mcatee behind Burstow.

I’d be surprised if any of the others don’t start.

Rodrigues for McAtee for me there, with one of Simons/Dempsey/Erhahon alongside Sheehan

56 minutes ago, bwfc4ife said:

Personally despite Cissoko’s last couple games, I’d be tempted to start with Gale on the left. Whilst Cissoko skinned the shit out of that full back fuck all came from it, I think Gales pace will cause him all sorts of problems getting in behind time and again. 
 

Dalby has to start along with Kenny (I’m calling BS on these rumours)

Gale's pace is an urban myth, he either isn't actually that quick or is too slow setting off or isn't going full throttle.
His finishing and positional awareness are both poor and he's not a team player.

My theory/hope is that after Cissoko terrorised them at Bratfud, they will over concentrate on him leaving ACD to have a field day........he'll probably get a hat trick !!

4-0 @30/1   & 4-1 @33/1, but please don't start with McAtee.

1 hour ago, barrycowdrill said:

IF Kenny is out, Ruben as the 10 and Simons or EE alongside Sheehan for me 

Simons hasn’t given a performance for eight months, while Erhahon has been out injured for almost two months.

if the worst comes to the worst, on what basis do they leapfrog Dempsey as the obvious alternative?

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1 hour ago, masi 51 said:

My Master plan was put on here last Friday and it would have a fit Kenny playing up top with Dalby or Burstow

did Kenny get injured during the game or in training?

he played the full 90 so not sure how he picked up a season ending injury

16 minutes ago, Rival Son said:

Simons hasn’t given a performance for eight months, while Erhahon has been out injured for almost two months.

if the worst comes to the worst, on what basis do they leapfrog Dempsey as the obvious alternative?

On the basis that they’re better doing the job they do than Dempsey which is a job I think we’ll need doing. 
 

they won’t be match fit obviously but they’ve been on the grass for 2 weeks and in full contact training. So we’ll get an hour out of them at least

39 minutes ago, Ratwhite said:

Given that he's been seen at training ground and at an airport in a league brace (quotes from on here), I'd say yes they are convinced. 

Unless SS is an ultra deceptionist 

I saw the source of those quotes and it was one ex poster from here quoting another source. Then a bloke claiming he saw him in an airport 2 days earlier. Neither are really convincing. 
 

I am not sure why SS would say we are all ok and then put out a team with neither Dalby or Kenny in, it just puts a dampener on the crowd. Add in Forss and CBT injured we could be missing arguably 4 of our 5 best attacking options. Just ACD to trip up this morning. 

7 minutes ago, Zico said:

did Kenny get injured during the game or in training?

he played the full 90 so not sure how he picked up a season ending injury

The rumour broke last Sunday.....Did anybody attend the awards nights looked fine from the online picture and certainly not in a knee brace........Not a chance in hell would he have been allowed to attend if injured......Something not adding up

11 minutes ago, barrycowdrill said:

On the basis that they’re better doing the job they do than Dempsey which is a job I think we’ll need doing. 
 

they won’t be match fit obviously but they’ve been on the grass for 2 weeks and in full contact training. So we’ll get an hour out of them at least

There is no way Simons deserves a place in the team. Amongst a bad bunch at Port Vale, he was especially shocking and has been no better than poor since October.

If we need to shuffle the team, the least disruptive and least risk (injury and fitness wise) is to push Rodrigues to 10 and put Dempsey alongside Sheehan.

We’ll agree to disagree on this one. However, we’re hopefully debating a moot point, and Kenny and Burstow will start, with Dalby on the bench.

Article in the ipaper saying we’re screwed financially if we don’t get up . Noticed one of the comments used in it when it says there source was a quote Marc iles  used about the cost of keeping the lights on at a stadium of this size 

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I am calling the kenny injury as bullshit.......Just does not add up

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