Guys

 

Just to let you know that it is Rasiak.

 

On loan to end of season.

 

Just heard through a 100% source.

 

Not very encouraging as he can't get in the Southampton side.

 

This is legit guys - no joke. It will happen shortly.

 

Cheers

We "had" to sell him because we promised him a move to a champions league club if one came in for him.

One came in for him, and eventually offered a fantastic amount of money to buy him.

He has got his move to a major club.

If you think he would have knuckled down and played his heart out for the rest of the season then I think you are mistaken.

How does a club in the bottom 6 organise a ready replacement for Anelka?

 

We'll have to agree to disagree on Anelka's commitment, either way it's irrelevant really.

 

What isn't, is that if we knew he was going for so long, did we have a plan in place or not?

 

Megson said we did

 

Is this it?

 

If so, it doesn't look great.

 

If not, why not? And why did Megson say we did FFS?

We'll have to agree to disagree on Anelka's commitment, either way it's irrelevant really.

 

What isn't, is that if we knew he was going for so long, did we have a plan in place or not?

 

Megson said we did

 

Is this it?

 

If so, it doesn't look great.

 

If not, why not? And why did Megson say we did FFS?

 

perhaps he thought the gudjohnson deal was closer than it turned out!?

perhaps he thought the gudjohnson deal was closer than it turned out!?

 

Maybe so, and if that was the case it was a bad mistake.

 

And I'm not saying for one second that I don't think they're trying - I don't subscribe to that theory at all - but in any line of business saying "you tried" doesn't cut the mustard.

nobody here seriously believes Raziak was the best we could have done in the circumstances do they?

 

Megson and Gartside screwed up and left it too late...its obvious.. Raziak might be a good squad player but that is NOT what we need...

Maybe so, and if that was the case it was a bad mistake.

 

And I'm not saying for one second that I don't think they're trying - I don't subscribe to that theory at all - but in any line of business saying "you tried" doesn't cut the mustard.

 

^this^

We'll have to agree to disagree on Anelka's commitment, either way it's irrelevant really.

 

What isn't, is that if we knew he was going for so long, did we have a plan in place or not?

 

Megson said we did

 

Is this it?

 

If so, it doesn't look great.

 

If not, why not? And why did Megson say we did FFS?

I'm sorry but it is a 2 way deal.

We want a player.

We offer an amount of money.

It is rejected(offer more til accepted)

It is accepted.

Offer terms to player.

"I dont want to come"

We double wages.

"I dont want to come"

We treble wages etc etc etc

" I STILL dont want to come"

What next?

We cant MAKE players come to the club.

Our track record recently has been good when faced with competition.

In fact all the players signed this transfer window have had other offers but CHOSEN us.

Raziak might be a good squad player but that is NOT what we need...

 

Correct. We now have three target men who don't score goals. Can anyone honestly see Raziak making any real difference? A pointless signing.

Correct me if I am wrong but, didn't Anelka have a clause in his contract that said if an ECL qualified team came in for him, he had the right to choose to go? If so, I'd be fairly sure it was the player himself who said yes to the move and the club did the best thing possible in getting the highest price they could.

 

Even if it wasn't actually in his written contract, it seems very likely he had a verbal agreement to that effect. There have been loads of quotes from the Club over time, saying that they wouldn't stand in his way if a Champions League club came in for him.

 

I too believe that the Club had no choice, and that we did well to extract ?15million for him under the circumstances.

Edited February 1, 200818 yr by M'crayons

Correct. We now have three target men who don't score goals. Can anyone honestly see Raziak making any real difference? A pointless signing.

 

I do hope you will eat those words if he does make an impact. I am saying nothing either way. Wise to say nowt until we see what happens. Could turn out to be a BW legend. Who knows?

6 goals in half a season and thats in the championship

How on earth will we score enough goals to remain in this league

We are just above the drop zone even with Anelka's contributrion!

 

Gartside and Megson have hung their hat on this guy and I fear for the worst

 

Premier league survival is rumoured to be worth ?20m+ so if we didn't have a replacement why didn't we just keep Anelka till the end of the season - even if this antagonised Nic and he stropped off at the end of the season for nothing we still would be ?8m better off with the premier league revenue for next season (?20m tv 2008/09 - ?12m Anelka fee)

 

Shortsighted beyond belief!

It isnt quite as simple as saying we will be ?8 million better off as there are all sorts of things to take into account. For example, do you really think Chelsea paid us ?15 million up front? No. Do you really think we paid Villa ?5 million up fron for Cahill? No.

 

There are agents fees, parachute payments, bank interest, potential merchandising revenue etc etc to take into account.

 

Before saying things about shortsightedness, perhaps understand that a football club doing business is a bit more complicated than Primary Schol Maths.

I'm sorry but it is a 2 way deal.

We want a player.

We offer an amount of money.

It is rejected(offer more til accepted)

It is accepted.

Offer terms to player.

"I dont want to come"

We double wages.

"I dont want to come"

We treble wages etc etc etc

" I STILL dont want to come"

What next?

We cant MAKE players come to the club.

Our track record recently has been good when faced with competition.

In fact all the players signed this transfer window have had other offers but CHOSEN us.

 

 

You don't seem to get it at all. ffs

 

I'm aware of the above scenario.

 

However

 

The point is, until those negotiations had at least been under way and expectations understood, HOW THE FOOK WERE WE PREPARED FOR ANELKA LEAVING as Megson had said. We're not prepared for someone leaving if we just have an idea of players we might like to have.

 

Get in the real world

This is an absolute joke considering we have had over two months to replace Anelka!

 

I fear the worst!

 

I cant see where our next goal is gonan come from

This is an absolute joke considering we have had over two months to replace Anelka!

 

I fear the worst!

 

I cant see where our next goal is gonan come from

 

NAME ME A REALISTIC OPTION WHO YOU WOULD SIGN?????

whilst Rasiak is far from my choice of who to sign, under the circumstances it ain't the worst, rather that than Roberts or Lita on permanent deals if they're not first choice targets

 

we look like we tried to get Gudjohnsen in, and with the other signings we can see that the board/managers are targetting players then going out and getting players in, so can't knock em on that front

 

only thing that remains to be seen is Diouf's role when he comes back, I reckon if we played him as the striker then we won't have missed out, whether we will or not though is another matter

We have a 3 week bonus in getting Diouf back early.

 

After watching the shite on Tuesday, it will be very interesting to see how we line up for Portsmouth at home.

NAME ME A REALISTIC OPTION WHO YOU WOULD SIGN?????

Not so loud, Frank!

 

I'd have taken Defoe, but I'm fairly sure he'd have taken more persuading than we could muster.

 

I'm not that arsed about Benjani - he's scored a bagful this season but I'm still not convinced he's been doing it on purpose.

 

I would definitely have paid ?3m-?4m for Marlon King, though. That's cheap for a decent young striker, and the fact he's gone to Wigan suggests we'd have been in with a shout if we'd been in for him.

 

As for Rasiak, we haven't done too badly shopping at Southampton in recent years, so lets hope he does the business, eh?

It isnt quite as simple as saying we will be ?8 million better off as there are all sorts of things to take into account. For example, do you really think Chelsea paid us ?15 million up front? No. Do you really think we paid Villa ?5 million up fron for Cahill? No.

 

There are agents fees, parachute payments, bank interest, potential merchandising revenue etc etc to take into account.

 

Before saying things about shortsightedness, perhaps understand that a football club doing business is a bit more complicated than Primary Schol Maths.

 

We are fcuking laughing stock

 

The Massives at work are having a right laugh at our signing on deadline day.

 

They are all celebrating their deal breaking down and thankful of not paying ?10M for a striker who has had one purple patch in 3 years at Portsmouth.

 

 

Sod 'em all. Off the bench to notch the winner at Reading.

We are fcuking laughing stock

 

The Massives at work are having a right laugh at our signing on deadline day.

 

They are all celebrating their deal breaking down and thankful of not paying ?10M for a striker who has had one purple patch in 3 years at Portsmouth.

 

 

Sod 'em all. Off the bench to notch the winner at Reading.

 

take it theyre made up at clearing the ecuadorian national debt on a 7 year old?

We are fcuking laughing stock

 

The Massives at work are having a right laugh at our signing on deadline day.

 

They are all celebrating their deal breaking down and thankful of not paying ?10M for a striker who has had one purple patch in 3 years at Portsmouth.

Sod 'em all. Off the bench to notch the winner at Reading.

 

TELL THE MASSIVES TO HAVE A LOOK ON SKY SPORTS WEBSITE - THE BENJANI DEAL COULD BE BACK ON !!!

btw

 

not ra -ze-ak

 

rash-ak

 

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Not so loud, Frank!

 

I'd have taken Defoe, but I'm fairly sure he'd have taken more persuading than we could muster.

 

I'm not that arsed about Benjani - he's scored a bagful this season but I'm still not convinced he's been doing it on purpose.

 

I would definitely have paid ?3m-?4m for Marlon King, though. That's cheap for a decent young striker, and the fact he's gone to Wigan suggests we'd have been in with a shout if we'd been in for him.

 

As for Rasiak, we haven't done too badly shopping at Southampton in recent years, so lets hope he does the business, eh?

 

king went for 5mil though which is a large chunk of our kitty to risk for a man who failed a medical at flum and is unproven at this level!

 

Rasiak cost us feck all and could do the business if not it's no loss to send him back.

king went for 5mil though which is a large chunk of our kitty to risk for a man who failed a medical at flum and is unproven at this level!

 

Rasiak cost us feck all and could do the business if not it's no loss to send him back.

Five million depending on what you're reading at the time!

 

I seen it reported ?5m, ?4m, ?4m rising to ?5m and ?3m rising to ?4m.

 

He is reported to have failed a medical at Fulham, but presumably he passed one at Wigan, and would have to have passed one here before the deal went through.

 

?3.5m million only got us Dean Holdsworth and that was ten years ago, for Christ's sake, so yes, I'd have had a go at him, even for ?5m.

Five million depending on what you're reading at the time!

 

I seen it reported ?5m, ?4m, ?4m rising to ?5m and ?3m rising to ?4m.

 

He is reported to have failed a medical at Fulham, but presumably he passed one at Wigan, and would have to have passed one here before the deal went through.

 

?3.5m million only got us Dean Holdsworth and that was ten years ago, for Christ's sake, so yes, I'd have had a go at him, even for ?5m.

 

Hindsight Enzo, hindsight.

 

Holdsworth WAS proven premiership quality at the time. Seemed a safe bet. He'd had a few decent seasons where he'd chipped in a few.

 

I do agree that the fees landscape has changed though and we (the fans) need to move with the times on that front. ?5m for King isn't such a risk I guess. Not if we were prepared to throw ?7m at Reading for Lita.