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Failed World Cup Bid

will we get it after the kick off at Brum tonight?

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  • To be fair, it's time to be selfish.   Forget the developing nations, they are nowt to do with us and we gain nowt by helping them.   Leave the footballing politics aside - we're not cut out for

  • SpiritofBurnden
    SpiritofBurnden

    It's got nothing to do with Panorama. Russia and Qatar had it sown up long ago. Today's circus was all about massaging Blatter's ego. If the FA want to do something useful, they should push to get rid

  • nottinghamtrotter
    nottinghamtrotter

    Surely no one is surprised? An absolute stich up months ago.   Normally wouldnt given our press the time of day, but right behind them on this one. If the "no" votes for us were because of FIFA

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heard a rumour in Qatar that the rules will be handball in the box = removal of hand

Make that 1 vote, the other vote we usvoting for ourselves

 

I'm astounded

Time well spent by the Prime Minister....

Another Con/LibDem coalition fuckup.

1)Israel athletes have competed there before. That's that risk whereever it is held.

 

2) Hassan Abdulla al Thawadi, chief executive of the Qatar 2022 World Cup bid, said the Muslim state would also permit alcohol consumption during the world?s most watched sporting event. Specific fan-zones will be set up during the event, they will provide alcohol for sale.

 

Fair enough. :good:

Another Con/LibDem coalition fuckup.

 

Bollocks

 

 

 

The blame lies solely with the ticket office

The Qatar bid is transparantly comical, and the bribery was quite open in the bid book. After the tournament, the stadiums will be dismantled and sent to the 3rd world (read, countries of the fifa executive members) to provide a legacy, as not even arabs could pretend Qatar needs 12 large stadia for 1.6m people.

 

Incidentally, there are 7 different 'cities' having stadia in Qatar.

 

The 3rd largest city in Qatar has... 30,000 people. I hope each location has a well.

Blatter is happy to drone on about a football 'legacy' but seems quite content to allow the various FA's to waste a small fortune competing to stage the tournament. Money that could have been spent on grass roots football.

Fair enough. :good:

 

 

I don't agree with it like.

 

Zidane and De Boer can go and get fucked aswell, did they not earn enough money in their careers?

Surely no one is surprised? An absolute stich up months ago.

 

Normally wouldnt given our press the time of day, but right behind them on this one. If the "no" votes for us were because of FIFA fears over what our press might do if we had been awarded 2018, then I feel they are sadly mistaken - I hope its nothing in comparison to the scrutiny they will now be put under to expose the truths behing their shady operation and publically nail as many of the hypocrites as possible.

 

We'll never get the World Cup in my lifetime now, so nothing to lose!

115 degrees is the average daytime temperature over there in June. Apparently they're planning to air condition the stadium pitches as it's the only way they'll be able to stage matches during the day.

 

 

More like 106 and 81 at night its would seem

 

http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/businesstraveler/wxclimatology/monthly/graph/QAXX0002

 

Nice

 

For those of us too young to understand those numbers, that translates to 46C, 41C and 27C

Surely no one is surprised? An absolute stich up months ago.

 

Normally wouldnt given our press the time of day, but right behind them on this one. If the "no" votes for us were because of FIFA fears over what our press might do if we had been awarded 2018, then I feel they are sadly mistaken - I hope its nothing in comparison to the scrutiny they will now be put under to expose the truths behing their shady operation and publically nail as many of the hypocrites as possible.

 

We'll never get the World Cup in my lifetime now, so nothing to lose!

 

could nt agree more.

 

the criticism seems to be that our press have published a story about corruption, everyone agrees fifa is bent as fuck.

 

are people really saying that despite what we think about fifa we should lick their arses, bend over and grab our ankles and let them do whatever they want to us ?

 

i would love the wc to be in this country but if the price we would have to pay is lying down and letting sepp blatter rape us then i happy to say fuck em.

 

if we had won the vote them the only conclusion would be that we had lined more pockets than the other bidders to bo honest that is not what i would want.

 

watch nick clegg on telly so desperate to be in power he is selling out on policies and beliefs has had all his life, sometimes the price is too high for the prize.

Look

 

By 2030 the World Cup won' exist in its current format.

 

I say it'll be an Elite competition where the top 24 teams from around the world compete. The rankings are based purely on which teams will pull in the most viewers - the top 20 qualifying automatically with 4 wild cards. FIFA can fuck right off.

 

If I was Beckham today, I'd have stormed the stage and shoved that trophy up Blatters arse then booted him into the crowd.

 

If I'm honest, I'm just not that arsed. It'll be on my telly regardless.

It's a shame! The oil mafia won both bids! Fick fufa!

The big football nations should tell FIFA that they're no longer prepared to bid to stage the tournament under the present system, which seems to involve creeping to Blatter and his cronies and has nothing whatsoever to do with the quality of the actual bid. Once FIFA have taken their circus to China, Australia and back to the States, they're going to be hard pushed to find anyone else with the resources and/or the will to stage the tournament.

It's a shame! The oil mafia won both bids! Fick fufa!

 

Natural Gas actually.

 

Russia are number 1 in the world, Qatar number 2.

 

Number 3? Iran for 2026, place your bets now.

The big football nations should tell FIFA that they're no longer prepared to bid to stage the tournament under the present system, which seems to involve creeping to Blatter and his cronies and has nothing whatsoever to do with the quality of the actual bid. Once FIFA have taken their circus to China, Australia and back to the States, they're going to be hard pushed to find anyone else with the resources and/or the will to stage the tournament.

 

No, people will keep queueing up to offer bribes and fawn.

The Qatar bid is transparantly comical, and the bribery was quite open in the bid book. After the tournament, the stadiums will be dismantled and sent to the 3rd world (read, countries of the fifa executive members) to provide a legacy, as not even arabs could pretend Qatar needs 12 large stadia for 1.6m people.

 

Incidentally, there are 7 different 'cities' having stadia in Qatar.

 

The 3rd largest city in Qatar has... 30,000 people. I hope each location has a well.

 

Scotland stand to gain then..

FIFA presidential elections are next year apparently. No wonder Blatter wanted the next two World Cups sorted out this year.

I'm looking forward to seeing Qatar build 50,000 seat stadiums, then taking them apart bolt by bolt and shipping them off to Timbuktu and the like.

 

What a load of pie in the sky

What the fuck are third world countries going to do with super-stadiums? Probably use them to stage executions and what not.

 

If Sepp Blatter is serious about legacy, he needs to act on the spiralling inflation in professional football's pinnacle.

 

Not for profit my arse!

Well no-one will go to fucking Russia - anyone risks a kicking, and if yer face aint whiter than white you risk yer life. But we should have seen the stitch-up earlier and pulled out; money down the shitter, and Blatter is doing the flushing.

Some turds float, and that fucker is unsinkable.

 

Number 3? Iran for 2026, place your bets now.

 

If it's still on the map then. According to the Wikileaks leaks various Arab states were giving it the "go on, get him" to the Yanks.

An impartial (none English) view of FIFA's voting system from our Canadian friends

 

 

 

Twenty-two years ago, when FIFA awarded the favored United States the 1994 World Cup, the decision seemed like a slam dunk even weeks prior the announcement.

 

As to which countries will wind up hosting the 2018 and 2022 World Cups, well, your guess is as good as ours. There are many indications that the US is in a very good spot, but the process is much more complex than it was in 1988.

 

It was a much simpler and different world back then. For instance, high-ranking FIFA officials actually spoke about the bids. Today, mum's the word, at least until the announcement is made in Z?rich, Switzerland, on Thursday.

 

For the 1994 World Cup, a simple plurality ? the most votes, not necessarily a majority ? was needed to win. The US received 10 votes, Brazil seven and Morocco two. Now, a majority is needed.

 

But that's only one of the complications.

 

Instead of having one World Cup host selected six years in advance, two World Cups hosts will be named eight and 12 years prior. Instead of the three candidates (Brazil, Morocco and the US) there were in '94, there are five countries vying to host the 2022 competition ? Australia, Japan, Korea, Qatar and the US ? while Belgium/Netherlands, England, Russia and Spain/Portugal are the 2018 candidates.

 

Before the 2022 vote is taken, the FIFA executive committee will pick the 2018 host. That could have an effect on 2022, depending on who votes for whom and which candidates and voting blocks are backing other finalists.

 

If a majority ? 12 out of 22 votes ? isn't reached on the first ballot, the candidate with the lowest amount of votes will be eliminated, similar to the Olympic process, until a winner is determined. In case of a tie, FIFA president Sepp Blatter will cast the deciding vote.

 

So, it isn't necessarily about finishing atop the first ballot, but surviving into the second round and accruing votes in subsequent rounds. Depending on politics, the likes and dislikes of the FIFA executive committee, the leader could change from round to round and the outcome could be a surprise.

 

Working in the US' favor is this: The US bid committee knows how to present like top-notch professionals. The superb '94 bid set the standard, making sure it dotted all the I's and crossed all the T's in two comprehensive bid books. In 1988, Brazil's bid book was criticized by FIFA as being flimsy. Learning from the US' '94 effort, every candidate's bid is much more comprehensive.

 

For 2022, the US went several steps further, with an impressive, five-volume, 1,250-page, 16-pound package that had substance and style. That's no clincher, of course. There's still a vote to be taken, and the recent corruption scandal implicated the US bid, though only by suggestion. (Reporters from The Times of London, posing as lobbyists for a US business group, said FIFA executive committee members Amos Adamu (Nigeria) and Reyard Temarli (Tahiti) offered to sell their votes. Both men were banned from the sport.)

 

Compare that to the '94 vote, in which two Brazilians on the executive committee ? FIFA president Dr. Jo?o Havelange and Ab?lio d'Almeida ? declined to vote so there would be no conflict of interest.

 

It is not known exactly how the recent scandal's fallout will affect the vote, and that's a gray area that looms like a storm cloud.

 

There is one change, however, that may be for the better. When the late FIFA executive vice president Harry Cavan announced the '94 winner, it took hours before American soccer public knew the result because the best ways to communicate back then were by telephone or wire service reports.

 

On Thursday, within minutes, if not seconds, the entire world will know whether the US tastes success, thanks to the announcement being streamed live on FIFA.com, Twitter, websites and blogs.

 

Regardless of glory or failure, the suspense will be brief.

 

 

I think we've got more chance of winning the Eurovision Song Contest that hosting the world cup. Lets face it the voting system is as bent

 

 

http://www.torontofc.ca/news/2010/11/usa-bid-world-away-1994

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