HomerJay Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 to be fair, i can see why people could easily fall our of love with the game (not bolton, but premier league the premier league ). its basically a circus these days ruined by greed, cheating and fifa imo. i dont want to go back to the old days of lower league football, whats the point, when you get there you just want to succeed and get promotion. plus lower league football has its downsides, it wont be long until we really do start losing teams down there because they just cant survive financially. football hasnt peaked just yet, but when it does, the decline will be much, much faster than the rise.
Fengshui Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 Got a season ticket this season first time in about 5 years, only seen 30 minutes in the ground so far. A few wins though and all will be rosy again. Fickle Football fans eh
SpiritofBurnden Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 I have been to approx 5 games over the last three years..and I will not be returning In fact football generally doesn't intrest me anymore... So in summary, you're going to stop going somewhere that you practically never attend anyway and you've posted this on a football messageboard even though you don't have much interest in football. Brilliant.
DazBob Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 I have been to approx 5 games over the last three years..and I will not be returning,last one was wembley Glory hunter!
stevieb Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 So in summary, you're going to stop going somewhere that you practically never attend anyway and you've posted this on a football messageboard even though you don't have much interest in football. Brilliant. Bobcat is like the grim reaper, nowhere to be seen after some of the highs of the last few seasons but straight back on at the first sign of doom! Predicatable as fuck the depressing bastard
Boby Brno Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 I did consider packing it all in this year. http://www.statto.com/football/teams/bolton-wanderers/1986-1987 I kept going though and it made the trip to Munich very, very satisfying! What does it say at the top of the page? Passion not fashion.
peebles Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 I started going to non league a few years ago for 2 main reasons: 1) I could take my daughter (she hates football -took her to the Reebok & she literally cried to go home & it was a decent game). With non-league the kids can run about & make new friends. First time I took her to Victory Park about 4 years ago she was doing roly polys down the grass banking having a great time. 2) Cost - Although the Reebok is better value than most Premier League grounds, if you have a young family & don't earn a fancy wage it is a lot of money. If my daughter loved football it may be different but it wasn't worth pushing the boat out for. I thought I'd end up back at the Reebok eventually but I love non-league now. No detriment to BWFC, who have been pretty successful the last few years. As well as reasons already stated, I like the friendly atmosphere of non league. I put it down to getting older and not buying into the win at all cost culture of top level football. Everyone wants to win, but not at the expense of the game's reputation. I don't make myself out to be a Chorley diehard because I'm not. If Chorley got took over and ended up in a soulless new stadium I'd go somewhere else. It's more a case of getting out on a Saturday afternoon, getting some fresh air & cheering on a local side but hopefully seeing a few goals is more of a priority for me. As folk have said though it's each to their own. I will always have BWFC in my heart & keep a keen interest on here & the telly but I can't see myself going to more than 2/3 games. As I said earlier, it's nothing to do with BWFC really just how I feel personally.
HomerJay Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 (edited) this may be wrong but i cant help feeling that a lot of people are jumping on the chorley bandwagon because they are top of the league and obviously going places with flitcroft, jansen and now simon whaley. to be fair, it has crossed my mind on more than one occasion to take my lad. but bolton is in my blood and id rather keep it that way. but if he turns round and says, "dad, bolton are shit, can i support chorley" then fair enough (he get a crack round the ear mind) Edited September 20, 2011 by HomerJay
Guest Blixa Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 this may be wrong but i cant help feeling that a lot of people are jumping on the chorley bandwagon because they are top of the league and obviously going places with flitcroft, jansen and now simon whaley. to be fair, it has crossed my mind on more than one occasion to take my lad. but bolton is in my blood and id rather keep it that way. Damn right. If you went in the 4th division, a rocky start in the top division ain't going to change anything. Yeah, it might be cheaper, might be stood up etc etc - but when those highs do come (and they will), you'll have missed them for a cheap pint and a pie in the sticks.
Casino Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 (edited) if you want the football fix and boltons too expensive/restrictive, why not just go on the park? Edited September 20, 2011 by Casino
Bobcat Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 There's more folk at the Reebok every week than there used to be at burnden. Ok I'll re phrase.... since 95 our season tickets i would imagine peaked around the Alladyce era and have declined ever since to perhaps 10k under Megson...rising slightly over the past couple of years?? 13K now, is less than we were getting at Alladyce's peak was the point I was trying to make...
Garrp Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 I started going to non league a few years ago for 2 main reasons: 1) I could take my daughter (she hates football -took her to the Reebok & she literally cried to go home & it was a decent game). With non-league the kids can run about & make new friends. First time I took her to Victory Park about 4 years ago she was doing roly polys down the grass banking having a great time. 2) Cost - Although the Reebok is better value than most Premier League grounds, if you have a young family & don't earn a fancy wage it is a lot of money. If my daughter loved football it may be different but it wasn't worth pushing the boat out for. I thought I'd end up back at the Reebok eventually but I love non-league now. No detriment to BWFC, who have been pretty successful the last few years. As well as reasons already stated, I like the friendly atmosphere of non league. I put it down to getting older and not buying into the win at all cost culture of top level football. Everyone wants to win, but not at the expense of the game's reputation. I don't make myself out to be a Chorley diehard because I'm not. If Chorley got took over and ended up in a soulless new stadium I'd go somewhere else. It's more a case of getting out on a Saturday afternoon, getting some fresh air & cheering on a local side but hopefully seeing a few goals is more of a priority for me. As folk have said though it's each to their own. I will always have BWFC in my heart & keep a keen interest on here & the telly but I can't see myself going to more than 2/3 games. As I said earlier, it's nothing to do with BWFC really just how I feel personally. and its just a massive coincidence you decided to tell us this during a terrible run of form. I went a non league friendly a few weeks ago, it costs me ?12...yeah, massive value for money. not being funny, i like a drink and the craic before and after the match as much as the next person but i love the football first. id suggest you probably dont like football that much, no problem if you dont, just stop with the excuses and doom and gloom and admit it to yourself.
Casino Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 Ok I'll re phrase.... since 95 our season tickets i would imagine peaked around the Alladyce era and have declined ever since to perhaps 10k under Megson...rising slightly over the past couple of years?? 13K now, is less than we were getting at Alladyce's peak was the point I was trying to make... serious question why do think that is could it be a) novelties worn off folk have decided what we wanted aint really that appealing, ie no chance of ever winning the league c) the economy is fucked d) you can't smoke
peebles Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 this may be wrong but i cant help feeling that a lot of people are jumping on the chorley bandwagon because they are top of the league and obviously going places with flitcroft, jansen and now simon whaley. to be fair, it has crossed my mind on more than one occasion to take my lad. but bolton is in my blood and id rather keep it that way. Undoubtably aye they are at the moment but Flitcroft won't be there forever. I'm not sure if he puts some of his own cash in maybe Biff could advise on that.
Bobcat Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 So in summary, you're going to stop going somewhere that you practically never attend anyway and you've posted this on a football messageboard even though you don't have much interest in football. Brilliant. have a day off window licker!...
Bobcat Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 Bobcat is like the grim reaper, nowhere to be seen after some of the highs of the last few seasons but straight back on at the first sign of doom! Predicatable as fuck the depressing bastard High's of the last few seasons...fuckinhell your easily impressed.... 30+ years of watching BWFC on my CV...judging by your response...about 15 years before you were born... now trot on
peebles Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 if you want the football fix and boltons too expensive/restrictive, why not just go on the park? Now that is a big difference in standard of football. Plus you don't get terraces, social clubs, banter etc.
Bobcat Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 serious question why do think that is could it be a) novelties worn off folk have decided what we wanted aint really that appealing, ie no chance of ever winning the league c) the economy is fucked d) you can't smoke Old ground isn't it Cas? Been discussed a million times on here over the years.. People have their individual reasons For me it basically became a sanatised, boring experience... plus my golf handicap is now 8
peebles Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 and its just a massive coincidence you decided to tell us this during a terrible run of form. I went a non league friendly a few weeks ago, it costs me ?12...yeah, massive value for money. not being funny, i like a drink and the craic before and after the match as much as the next person but i love the football first. id suggest you probably dont like football that much, no problem if you dont, just stop with the excuses and doom and gloom and admit it to yourself. I didn't start the thread. If you look at the non league thread in Behind the Stands you'll get a good idea of how I spend my Saturday afternoons. I love watching football but so long as it's a good game I'm happy. No slashing of wrists or 12 pint celebrations necessary.
Casino Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 plus my golf handicap is now 8 i thought leverhulmes pitch n putt was shut?
Horwich Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 Football doesnt interest me half as much as it did 10 years ago. I kind of think I have come to the end of the BWFC journey. Watched them in every division, cup finals, europe etc. We will NEVER win the league in my life time, we dont really give a fook about the cup competitions, so its kind of "game over" for me. I will still go, but its not one of my priorities anymore.
Bobcat Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 I can now get it through the windmill in two shots you know...
athywhite1958 Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 (edited) Each to their own and all that but the whole concept of watching a load of posties and brickies trying to play football sounds about as appealing as spending the afternoon cleaning my nads with swarfega. You wouldn't pick to go and watch a bunch of blokes play songs by Oasis down at the boozers over going to watch the real thing at the arena even though Gallagher is a bit of a dick and tickets cost more. Aye, and lining the ever bulging pockets of multi millionaires who roll around like dicks fills me with excitement, not. I also go to watch local bands in local pubs, again I feel I get better value for money than paying for the likes of that manc tw@t Gallagher [i'd rather listen to Frank]. Edited September 20, 2011 by athywhite1958
Guest Biff Posted September 20, 2011 Posted September 20, 2011 Undoubtably aye they are at the moment but Flitcroft won't be there forever. I'm not sure if he puts some of his own cash in maybe Biff could advise on that. Right, Flitcroft was a relatively successful manager of Leigh Genesis. He got fed up of the club being fucked about by the council and more or less being made homeless. He looked around and liked the set up at Chorley and went to Chorley's chairman and said he would like to manage at Victory Park. Chorley had a manager who had been in post for one season and had been relatively successful compared to the more recent previous managers they had had. Chorley's managers had been handicapped by lack of finance, the owner puts no money into the club. He used to give ?25,000 a year. The then current manager had to be sacked to make room for Flitcroft and he duly was at the final whistle on the last day of the season with no reason being given. Flitcroft came in and bought a raftload of players with him that Chorley could not afford and so must be putting his own money into the club. Circumstances currently dictate that Chorley can only go two rungs higher in the pyramid. The ground will not and never will meet Conference standard. Should Chorley reach this ceiling, Flitcroft will undoubtedly leave and seek success elsewhere taking his money with him leaving Chorley to drop down the leagues again and the glory hunting "supporters" will find another non league team who is doing well.
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