jules_darby Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 He might turn out to be a shit coach but is it not worth offering a 1 year coaching role to see if he can pass his undeniable experience on? What if he's a blinding coach who also just happens to be a loyal and proud BWFC man and gives us 25 years of coaching excellence is that not more desirable than this absolute fuck up. But which below exactly is the "fuck up" Mounts? Not giving him a contract extension? Not giving him a coaching role? Not giving him a testimonial? Telling him on his birthday? Him going on Talkshite? His wife bleating bollocks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 ermm, if you're not going to accept facts, then theres no point discussing it emma davies knew the score on saturday night today, kevin and emma say he was told today at best, this is deceitful, at worst, downright lies OK that might be the case no one knows for sure the timing, but it does not excuse or justify the lack of respect for a good pro and loyal servant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfc2003 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I get 84 in 373 for KD and 122 in 347 for DB at least KD would get on a plane what I don't get is all this sense of animosity towards him has he stayed here too long? he's not as good as he was, but all the managers including DF keep picking him so not sure why he gets so much shit he's been a great player for us, deserves a bit more respect for me - we've been good for each other over the last 10 years And how proud did we all feel when he made his England debut - whch wasnt that long ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no balls Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Aren't testimonials used to help charities now anyway? Call me churlish but I'd be fucked if I'm putting money in a players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 And how proud did we all feel when he made his England debut - whch wasnt that long ago That was absolutely fantastic And he's given us many other brilliant moments That doesn't mean he's been treated badly though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted March 26, 2013 Moderators Share Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) OK that might be the case no one knows for sure the timing, but it does not excuse or justify the lack of respect for a good pro and loyal servant. we know it wasn't today so, why should we believe anything coming from #teamdavies they're upset understandable but if they want to start peddling untruths, they'll rapidly lose any sympathy where is the lack of respect you refer to? Edited March 26, 2013 by Casino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 But which below exactly is the "fuck up" Mounts? Not giving him a contract extension? Not giving him a coaching role? Not giving him a testimonial? Telling him on his birthday? Him going on Talkshite? His wife bleating bollocks? It should have been handled better, he could have been offered a player coaching role majoring on coaching he could have been made to be part of the fabric of the club the lack of a testimonial is scandalous, even Robbie Blake was treated better by the club, his wife and talksport are superfluous to this debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted March 26, 2013 Moderators Share Posted March 26, 2013 what if freedman wants him out? does he have to keep him on for ever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted March 26, 2013 Moderators Share Posted March 26, 2013 oh aye, if he wants a testimonial and we are allowed to award him one, i'd have allowed him to have one if he has to formally request it and he didn't, then i wouldn't be able to award it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted March 26, 2013 Moderators Share Posted March 26, 2013 i wouldn't go though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 It should have been handled better, he could have been offered a player coaching role majoring on coaching he could have been made to be part of the fabric of the club the lack of a testimonial is scandalous, even Robbie Blake was treated better by the club, his wife and talksport are superfluous to this debate. His contract runs out this Summer He stated on Talkshite he wants to play for another "couple of years" and even said he thinks he could still do a job in the Premiership (now that is deluded) Lets assume by he non contract offer, DF disagrees How would a player coaching role work at BWFC? And that's before you even think about how good he is or isn't as a coach anyway It even could be a conflict of interests We can't afford to have him as a player if he's not in our plans If he wanted to coach in the Academy and not play for example, that's different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 we know it wasn't today so, why should we believe anything coming from #teamdavies they're upset understandable but if they want to start peddling untruths, they'll rapidly lose any sympathy where is the lack of respect you refer to? He clearly wanted to remain at the club and he should and could have been offered a role on the coaching set up months ago, it should have been discussed at board level and with the playing management how best to deal with his impending move from playing to coaching if it was dealt with in the correct manner I'm sure that this could have been sorted amicably as it is its a mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfc2003 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I'm sure if Dougie saw something in him then he'd be eager to keep him on board. I'll trust his judgement. But he has figured in most of Dougies teams - who replaces him for the rest of the season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted March 26, 2013 Moderators Share Posted March 26, 2013 and again, mate what if freedman wants him out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blixa Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 He clearly wanted to remain at the club and he should and could have been offered a role on the coaching set up months ago, it should have been discussed at board level and with the playing management how best to deal with his impending move from playing to coaching if it was dealt with in the correct manner I'm sure that this could have been sorted amicably as it is its a mess. But Freedman obviously doesn't want or need him on the coaching staff. That's the bottom line. If he did, he'd have been offered one. You can't just drop coaches onto him when he doesn't need them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted March 26, 2013 Moderators Share Posted March 26, 2013 But he has figured in most of Dougies teams - who replaces him for the rest of the season? if we get his wage off the bill, there'll be all sorts of possibilities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youri McAnespie Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 A bit of perspective (if you ignore the fact they're Welsh, and it's nowt to do with football) http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/wrexham/2012/12/27/former-wrexham-remploy-workers-who-were-made-redundant-face-a-bleak-christmas-91466-32499052/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Blixa Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 In fact, if Gartside insisted on Davies getting a job, there's every chance that Freedman would feel undermined - and leave at the first opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted March 26, 2013 Moderators Share Posted March 26, 2013 A bit of perspective (if you ignore the fact they're Welsh, and it's nowt to do with football) http://www.walesonli...91466-32499052/ i bet HR checked their birth dates before breaking the news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter superjohnmcginlay Posted March 26, 2013 Site Supporter Share Posted March 26, 2013 It's madness to throw a player who's been pivotal to the clubs tapestry for years when you need to freshen it up, he was part of the highs but he's been a massive part of the lows too, Freedman has a club to sort out, Gartside has to stick with his manager not undermining him by appointing a coach for sentiment It's sad it's ending like it is but this is not all the clubs doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigtoe Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 You only have to read his missus' timeline from the weekend to know that, errr, they knew!!! He's been great for bolton, as we've been great for him. Weve got plenty of ex wanderers still here, including a manager who was sacked after half a dozen games. Yet he must think were alright even after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 and again, mate what if freedman wants him out? Give him the testimonial he deserves, give him the nod that he's not in your plans in January when he could have gone somewhere else, make a statement fom the top thanking him for his sterling service to BWFC, we have history of this and players who play for the club currently and looking in from the outside it looks shit treatment of a good professional and that's not how you would like your club to be perceived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted March 26, 2013 Moderators Share Posted March 26, 2013 Give him the testimonial he deserves, give him the nod that he's not in your plans in January when he could have gone somewhere else, make a statement fom the top thanking him for his sterling service to BWFC, we have history of this and players who play for the club currently and looking in from the outside it looks shit treatment of a good professional and that's not how you would like your club to be perceived. see, that i'll give you but, theres no knowing that we didn't intend to do that we don't know why the club released that statement today if i had to guess, its cos davies told them he was going public Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 But he has figured in most of Dougies teams - who replaces him for the rest of the season? Maybe Dougie rates him ahead of Sordell and C.Davies. Maybe he thinks, come the summer, he can get a better player on far lower wages. I reckon he can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little whitt Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 It should have been handled better, he could have been offered a player coaching role majoring on coaching he could have been made to be part of the fabric of the club the lack of a testimonial is scandalous, even Robbie Blake was treated better by the club, his wife and talksport are superfluous to this debate. spot fucking on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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