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Back of the neck.

That's the strangest looking elephant I've ever seen,

 

Looks like a cross between a dolphin and a donkey

I know I should probably know this.....but what is the association between the town of Bolton and elephants.............other than the fact that they used to roam free and wild on Winter Hill

Im well chuffed with it, a bold attempt to bring some of the town's tradition back to the club - something that has often lacked since the move to Horwich, good start Macron.

 

Its a slightly strange looking elephant... but its our elephant!

I know I should probably know this.....but what is the association between the town of Bolton and elephants.............other than the fact that they used to roam free and wild on Winter Hill

It's to do with the cotton trade we did with India I'm led to believe

I thought it was to do with Bolton being full of elephant washers?

Have a walk around town when there is a bit of nice weather and you will see 100's of scantily clad Elephants, mostly pushing prams and eating pasties

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I know I should probably know this.....but what is the association between the town of Bolton and elephants.............other than the fact that they used to roam free and wild on Winter Hill

 

They used to swim in the baths at Horwich, allegedly.

I know I should probably know this.....but what is the association between the town of Bolton and elephants.............other than the fact that they used to roam free and wild on Winter Hill

 

There used to be a heard of wild elephants living on the moors between Daubhill and Deane

Elephants once frequented the fields on Hunger Hill. They were with the circus mind, think it was around 1999. Can't remember the name, they had lions/tigers too though.

the bishop of coventry coat of arms is the link i seem to remember, hence coventry having it on their badge too, cant remember exactly or be arsed looking, but there was some link between the diocese/parishes 

iam sure i saw a few elephants in the swan on sat night, along with a couple of pigs

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i'd be buzzing if we didn't change something like this every year

 

kind of loses its appeal

 

no complaints though

the bishop of coventry coat of arms is the link i seem to remember, hence coventry having it on their badge too, cant remember exactly or be arsed looking, but there was some link between the diocese/parishes 

 

Is the right answer!

 

From Wikipedia (I know, but they're right on this one!)

 

A coat of arms was associated with the town prior to the borough's incorporation. This consisted of a shield bearing two bendlets or diagonal bands, variously depicted as gold on red or black on gold. The crest above the shield was an elephant bearing a castle on its back.[31] In 1890 Major Otley Parry redesigned the arms for the borough, the new design being officially granted by letters patent from the College of Arms on 5 June. The blazon of the arms was as follows:[32]

Gules two bendlets or a shuttle with weft pendent between an arrow point upwards and a mule spinning spindle in chief palewise all of the last and an escutcheon in base of the second thereon a rose of the first barbed and seeded proper, and for a Crest: Upon a rocky moor an elephant statant proper on its back a castle Or and thereon a rose as in the Arms the trapping per pale gules and vert and charged with a mitre also Or.

The bendlets do not seem to have had any particular significance: the corporation claimed that they represented a "soldier's belt".[33] This was a common explanation for the heraldic symbol at the time.[34] A number of symbols were added to the arms. In the upper part of the shield was an arrow, recalling that archers from Bolton played a part at the Battle of Flodden Field in 1513. Next to this were two symbols of the cotton industry: a spindle from Samuel Crompton's spinning mule and a weaver's shuttle. In the lower section of the shield was a gold escutcheon bearing the red rose of Lancaster, denoting that the town was in Lancashire.[32]

The elephant and castle crest of the unofficial arms was retained. The elephant was believed to have been derived from the arms of the City of Coventry, and the green and red colouring of the trappings was taken from the city's arms. The presence of the elephant was explained by the fact that Bolton anciently lay within the Diocese of Mercia, the see of which was at Coventry. The gold mitre in the crest referred to the diocese. The elephant stood on a representation of a "rocky moor": a depiction of the town's old name of Bolton-le-Moors.[33]

In 1958 the corporation received a further grant of supporters and heraldic badge. The additions to the arms were blazoned as follows:

Supporters: On either side a lion sable gorged with a wreath argent and sable each supporting a staff Or flying therefrom a banner that on the dexter vair Or and gules that on the sinister argent on a bend azure three stags' heads caboshed Or; Badge or Device: Upon an oval gules encompassed by a garland of six roses also gules barbed seeded and leaved proper an arrow point upwards enfiled by a crown palisado Or.[35]

The black lions came from the arms of Flanders, in recognition of the fact that Flemish immigrants founded Bolton's textile industry. They supported flags bearing the arms of the two families who held the Earldom of Derby and principal manors of Bolton: the Ferrers and Stanley families.[3][32]

The motto adopted was Supera Moras or "Overcome Delays". It was a pun on the Latin name of the town: "Bolton-super-Moras".[33]

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_Borough_of_Bolton

The castle turrets haven't been flipped. Simply drag-copied. That's a bit lazy IMO. Should be flipped. Poor.

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Also from Wiki...

 

'...Mercia was originally a Pagan Kingdom, until 656, when King Peado coverted to Christianity...'

 

Nowt new there then, 'joking' aside, I find stuff like that fascinating - it makes a mockery of this new contrived notion of 'Englishness' and it's attendant 'ancient' traditions such as pie and pea dinners served upon beachtowels :) It's only a gnat's fart in time ago we were worshipping toadstools and having Peado as our King.

I like the premise, even if the execution could be better

 

If this is a sign of things to come then it's a god start with Macron

 

Well done BWFC

 

PG is still a cunt though

I like the premise, even if the execution could be better

 

If this is a sign of things to come then it's a god start with Macron

 

Well done BWFC

 

PG is still a cunt though

Its a step in the right direction and people have been asking for years for this

Don't get the connection between Bolton and Coventry/Mercia sounds dubious/bullshit to me.

An elephant :lol:, what next a gerbil?

An elephant :lol:, what next a gerbil?

you need to look into Boltons history

you need to look into Boltons history

 

 

His history is the Premership Years, Not been to a game in 2 years Fuck him

An elephant :lol:, what next a gerbil?

You do know the old badge had an elephant on it don't you? - although that was pre-Premier League, so you may not be aware

Don't get the connection between Bolton and Coventry/Mercia sounds dubious/bullshit to me.

 

Bolton was part of the diocese of Mercia in medieval times. Not bullshit. Just one of them there pesky facts. :thumbsup:

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