Itk Transfer Thread

[anewman]

His initial remit was promotion, that much is true.

 

When we missed out on that in his first season, and with the threat of FFP looming, his job changed to bringing the club finances back in line.

 

It's not THAT hard to comprehend that targets can change from season to season.

We didn't miss out

 

He fucked up

 

Playing hall as a lone striker against Blackpool, Jesus h Christ he should of been sacked there and then

[onlyoneawalker]

Coyle and freedman both had relative success early on they both thrn fell off a cliff when the going got tough they were found very badly lacking neither were up to the job they were in so they got sacked - I look at it that both left the club in worse shape than they found it so as freedman took over from coyle he must be worse they were both shite football managers and it would seem freedman was a dick round the place too

[Carlos]

I'm with DopeyJohn, FFP has always been at the forefront. The only team who ignored it were QPR and Dodgy 'Arry. They really are fucked the moment they get relegated.

[jules_darby]

I'm with DopeyJohn, FFP has always been at the forefront. The only team who ignored it were QPR and Dodgy 'Arry. They really are fucked the moment they get relegated.

Nobody said FFP doesn't have an effect

 

But as you've stated, it effects everyone

 

So should be no excuse for DF's shite

 

Unless you're blind

[Sweep]

Playing hall as a lone striker against Blackpool

I think that really was the most bizarre thing he did. Clearly he was trying to be far too clever

[Casino]

freedmans shite were costing us 15 million a year in wages, give or take

 

coyles 65, give or take

 

seeing as the league positions were pretty similar, i find it hard to see how anybody sane can argue freedman was making a worse job of it than coyle

 

unless your blind

 

 

 

also, one of em cost us our place in the premier league

 

one of em didn't

[Casino]

I think that really was the most bizarre thing he did. Clearly he was trying to be far too clever

 

 

 

We didn't miss out

 

He fucked up

 

Playing hall as a lone striker against Blackpool, Jesus h Christ he should of been sacked there and then

 

 

clearly the view from down south and the flying flute was a bit murky

 

craig davies started up front

 

becuase ngog was injured

[ex_midlandwhite]

I think that really was the most bizarre thing he did. Clearly he was trying to be far too clever

Hall up front on his own is just made up though, it was Craig Davies up front on his own and he changed to two up front bringing Hall off early on.

 

No doubt he couldn't get the best out of what he brought in but I do think he has hopefully left us some decent young players.

[jules_darby]

freedmans shite were costing us 15 million a year in wages, give or take

 

coyles 65, give or take

 

seeing as the league positions were pretty similar, i find it hard to see how anybody sane can argue freedman was making a worse job of it than coyle

 

unless your blind

 

 

 

also, one of em cost us our place in the premier league

 

one of em didn't

Only because he didn't have the opportunity to

 

2 bad, bad Managers

 

But this stating he did the job he was supposed to is bollocks. We HAD to cut wages. He still couldn't manage the team.

 

In a few years if NL fucks up then DF's stock will rise, much like a load of you seem to now think Megson wasn't taking us to a really bad place

 

In other news Joe Riley is now Cafu

[kent_white]

I'll be interested to see what happens if and when DF gets a new club. He just went into terminal decline with us and reached the point where even a win wasn't enough to get the confidence of the squad back.

 

My biggest criticism is how he used to overcomplicate things, but I imagine he learnt a hell of a lot during his time with us and if he's still got the appetite, it wouldn't surprise me to see him being a success at a club like Preston or Shed U if he's given the chance.

[jules_darby]

I'll be interested to see what happens if and when DF gets a new club. He just went into terminal decline with us and reached the point where even a win wasn't enough to get the confidence of the squad back.

 

My biggest criticism is how he used to overcomplicate things, but I imagine he learnt a hell of a lot during his time with us and if he's still got the appetite, it wouldn't surprise me to see him being a success at a club like Preston or Shed U if he's given the chance.

His whole future shouldn't be written off because of one bad job

 

However, let's not make up that he did what he was supposed to

[Casino]

In other news Joe Riley is now Cafu

 

aye, ive seen that

[gonzo]

We've been here so many times its ridiculous.

 

Freedman inherited a whopping wage bill and a sqaud more than capable of making a push for promotion.

 

The downsizing and cost cutting was a direct result of his failings.

 

Its only when the board shit their pants and realised we were sinking faster than the titanic they ordered new directives.

 

Freedman was backed more than amply for this division until the very end when became apparent we were going only one way and that was down.

 

Can we not just put this to bed?

 

The man is massive black mark on the football club and given more time would have caused more Damage than any other manger including that buffoon coyle.

 

Like Mrs Freedman said in an earlier post way back when...I could shrink the wage bill an offload high earners. It was freedmans job to do the hard part and bring in cheap players and get them to compete.

 

He failed dramatically at the latter. Fact.

[Danny G]

What the hell has happened to Medo anyway?

[BOWTUN BAKED]

What the hell has happened to Medo anyway?

Played for the stiffs other night with Heskey & Bogdan.

[Cheese]

No point having theoretical arguments about the past. What's done is done. Onwards and upwards. COYWM

[mickbrown]

Freedman apologists?

 

Jesus, I genuinely never thought I'd see this day.

 

Whatever his remit was, he was absolutely shit at it.

Edited December 24, 2014 by mickbrown

[onlyoneawalker]

aye, ive seen that

Why? Where?

[onlyoneawalker]

What the hell has happened to Medo anyway?

Coventry on loan I read in nixons sun column

[Guest Blixa]

I will show my arse if Heskey ever puts a first team Bolton shirt on.

I'm guessing the arse will be out around half time? Hopefully it will warm up for you fella.

 

Is it town hall steps or centre circle?

Edited December 24, 2014 by Blixa

[jagermoot]

What's happened to Riley?

[awandering]

What's happened to Riley?

On loan at Oxford.

[SnoopJohnnyJohn]

But this stating he did the job he was supposed to is bollocks. We HAD to cut wages. He still couldn't manage the team.

 

Which is exactly what I said... He did the job of cutting wages well but couldn't manage to team to go on and win games... It's all in the post I'm quoting below.

 

Freedman had an effective role as the hatchet man at Bolton. Between him and Gartside, a lot of credit has to be given for us not being hit with a FFP transfer ban.

 

Admittedly he was a shit man-manager and his tactics were bollocks (I was ever the optimist and willing to give him far more time than he deserved in all honesty), but he did serve a purpose and in the grand scheme of things it might be that he was an important cog in the Wanderers machine.

 

Oh, you'll also notice that I say I was wrong about him in that too.

 

And as others have said it is obvious that once we weren't challenging for promotion his remit was changed to getting in line for FFP whilst remaining in this division. You don't need to be in board meetings to see that.

Edited December 24, 2014 by SnoopJohnnyJohn

[jules_darby]

Which is exactly what I said... He did the job of cutting wages well but couldn't manage to team to go on and win games... It's all in the post I'm quoting below.

 

 

Oh, you'll also notice that I say I was wrong about him in that too.

 

And as others have said it is obvious that once we weren't challenging for promotion his remit was changed to getting in line for FFP whilst remaining in this division. You don't need to be in board meetings to see that.

Obvious? Or convenient?

 

If he did the job that was assigned to him why was he sacked?

 

FFS

[Sweep]

Obvious? Or convenient?

If he did the job that was assigned to him why was he sacked?

He was onviously sacked because he was shit, the same as Coyle was.

 

The only manager we have sacked recently, who wasn't shit is Megson. Had we kept him, we would still have been at the top table and wouldn't be concerned about some of the issues we have now

 

 

 

......here fishy, fishy