Also remember he had a full trial with loads of money for a top lawyer, he was found guilty after all the evidence was considered, not just the bits his team are now feeding the press.

 

Sounds like a drunken night that crossed a line but having heard all the evidence the jury decided the line had been crossed, why the fuck is a professional footballer relying on sloppy seconds from a mate ?

I wouldn't bother with him as I think we are just turning the corner to a more positive atmosphere around the club and I wouldn't want us fucking that up.

 

This would only end up adding negative vibes and bad press that we don't need right now.

Dilemma. If he's a rapist, he's a cunt. Let's see what the appeal comes up with. She certainly does not sound whiter than white but, then again, I suppose that is how a defence lawyer would paint her anyway.

 

Where I have a problem is, as he has served his debt to society, does anyone have the right to deny him his method of earning a living in his chosen profession?

 

I despise these do gooder campaigner types who just want to get their face on TV so I take zero notice of their poisonous outpourings.

 

If he was a plumber or a chair mender, there would be no opinions forthcoming about him going back to his profession.

Agree with Bolty no problem with him earning a living but I wouldn't want the baggage at my club, if I was a chairman of any club I would steer well clear.

His 1st name is stupid, and his last name reminds me of the DMB, so its a no from me.

If he was a teacher, lawyer, copper would he be able to go back to those jobs with that conviction?

Theoretically, if a friend/acquaintance/workmate rang or texted you at 1am to tell you they had a pissed out of her tree girl alone in a hotel room and did you fancy coming for a visit, would you...

a). Grab your car keys, get your boots on and get over there to fill your boots - text a couple of younger mates on the way over, see if they want a job as camera crew.

or

b ). Tell them to piss off and then start to re-evaluate your friendship?

If it's a). you've answered, then you probably think the 'Rough Justice' team should get on the case for poor, old lad Ched.

IIRC the one who 'pulled' the girl was acquitted because she'd consented to sex with him before she lost capacity, Evans was found to be a rapist because he pitched up after she lost capacity, having previously never met her btw, and proceeded to rape her...

Should he be denied employment due to his crime? No, he's served his time. Should he be given employment with our club? You'd hope not.

If this case had involved four 'P*ki' taxi drivers, or, say, bouncers, of any hue, general opinion would probably be (rightly) along the lines of 'stone the cunts', because it's footballers some of the opinion seems to be more lenient, to say the least.

Perhaps there's more to it than this, but he's been tried and found guilty in a court of law, the character of the girl in question is irrelevant. If you rape a prostitute - it's rape, if you rape a porn starlet - it's rape, if you rape a good-time girl who's with a different bloke every week and likes her weed and coke - it's rape.

Perhaps in future young blokes will think on, before assuming that a girl being comatose or being up for it previously with one of your mates is giving implied consent.

Edited October 20, 201411 yr by Youri McAnespie

I reckon she got the morning after guilt trip, felt like a slut, and cried rape. She wont be the first and its still someones dowter, but she's old enough to know the consequences.

 

The jury bought into it too though I bet there was some grey areas and the torch, gaffa tape, and hammer in my toy box would take some explaining to that lot.

I reckon she got the morning after guilt trip, felt like a slut, and cried rape. She wont be the first and its still someones dowter, but she's old enough to know the consequences.

 

The jury bought into it too though I bet there was some grey areas and the torch, gaffa tape, and hammer in my toy box would take some explaining to that lot.

 

Don't forget the rope.

Dilemma. If he's a rapist, he's a cunt. Let's see what the appeal comes up with. She certainly does not sound whiter than white but, then again, I suppose that is how a defence lawyer would paint her anyway.

 

Where I have a problem is, as he has served his debt to society, does anyone have the right to deny him his method of earning a living in his chosen profession?

 

I despise these do gooder campaigner types who just want to get their face on TV so I take zero notice of their poisonous outpourings.

 

If he was a plumber or a chair mender, there would be no opinions forthcoming about him going back to his profession.

Chosen profession......Footballer, his value is what he contributes to the club, so he can pursue that, he may find that his value is now lower than before and that reflects that is just not about what you do on the pitch.

 

If he was a plumber would you be happy him turning up at your house to do a job with only a woman in the house whilst he was there ? He has to sign sex offenders register so would affect any job he applies for.

 

This is all being pushed by money from his girlfriends millionaire father, I agree there are some do gooders with an agenda but there are plenty more on the other side who think money can buy themselves a different legal system.

Chosen profession......Footballer, his value is what he contributes to the club, so he can pursue that, he may find that his value is now lower than before and that reflects that is just not about what you do on the pitch.

 

If he was a plumber would you be happy him turning up at your house to do a job with only a woman in the house whilst he was there ? He has to sign sex offenders register so would affect any job he applies for.

 

This is all being pushed by money from his girlfriends millionaire father, I agree there are some do gooders with an agenda but there are plenty more on the other side who think money can buy themselves a different legal system.

 

 

Please observe the first word I typed. I think we generally agree.

Chosen profession......Footballer, his value is what he contributes to the club, so he can pursue that, he may find that his value is now lower than before and that reflects that is just not about what you do on the pitch.

 

If he was a plumber would you be happy him turning up at your house to do a job with only a woman in the house whilst he was there ? He has to sign sex offenders register so would affect any job he applies for.

 

This is all being pushed by money from his girlfriends millionaire father, I agree there are some do gooders with an agenda but there are plenty more on the other side who think money can buy themselves a different legal system.

 

 

I can't imagine I'd ever recruit someone convicted of rape.

Please observe the first word I typed. I think we generally agree.

For once I did not think we were disagreeing.

His girlfriend must be a nugget.

 

What the fuck is she doing sticking by him when he is going about raping a girl that is asleep after one of his mates has shagged her?

 

As for him he wants knocking out the welsh cunt

Don't forget the rope.

Why did you do the dusting with the chloroform rag yesterday?

Why did you do the dusting with the chloroform rag yesterday?

true story, I had a call from someone called chloroform Wong the other week. I wanted to say, that's so Wong but stayed professional

true story, I had a call from someone called chloroform Wong the other week. I wanted to say, that's so Wong but stayed professional

 

I was dealing with a Mr Wanki (might of been two I's) last week, cant believe i kept a straight face.

Meet Bert Wank...

 

http://www.linkedin.com/in/bertwank

 

Also from the States, Willie Wanker.

 

   http://kmlcorp.com/about.php

 

His mild-mannered, underpromise-and-over-deliver approach keeps customers coming back time and again.

 

 

I'll bet it does, the dirty sod.

Edited October 20, 201411 yr by Youri McAnespie

If he was a teacher, lawyer, copper would he be able to go back to those jobs with that conviction?

 

No.  

 

And although I agree with Bolty's post above, a pro footballer is a role model and significant high profile member of the community. Whether they like that or not, it's undeniable and comes as part of the package.  It's a no from me.  

 

Have you ever pulled a bird and then she's fell asleep whence back at her/your gaff?  I know i'm clearly an interesting and charming man for this to occur but, as horny as I was even back in my teens I would never, ever, have tried to pull her pants to the side and pop me-self in whilst she was out of it.  If you can't see that's wrong, even after a heavy sesh, you should get help;)

 

(tbf - I would think her to be the biggest cock tease/lesbian that ever existed and probably spend the rest of the evening/next day bonding with the wank sock)

 

What was he doing?!

He's a convicted rapist, fresh out of jail. You can argue the ins and ours of the case, but that's the bottom line.

 

Forgetting the football aspect for now, if you had your own business, would you employ a convicted rapist just out of jail?

 

Yes, everyone deserves a second chance, but if that job is in a family focused business, you'd perhaps say 'no thanks'. At least until that person had shown genuine remorse and shown they were a changed person. That's definitely not Ched Evans right now, who is a walking PR disaster.

 

Someone will pick him up, perhaps even Sheff United. But you would hope that it was after his appeal cleared up any outstanding issues and if that appeal is bounced, after he showed some genuine remorse for what he had done to the girl in question - not just for cheating on his missus.

He's a convicted rapist, fresh out of jail. You can argue the ins and ours of the case, but that's the bottom line.

 

Forgetting the football aspect for now, if you had your own business, would you employ a convicted rapist just out of jail?

 

Yes, everyone deserves a second chance, but if that job is in a family focused business, you'd perhaps say 'no thanks'. At least until that person had shown genuine remorse and shown they were a changed person. That's definitely not Ched Evans right now, who is a walking PR disaster.

 

Someone will pick him up, perhaps even Sheff United. But you would hope that it was after his appeal cleared up any outstanding issues and if that appeal is bounced, after he showed some genuine remorse for what he had done to the girl in question - not just for cheating on his missus.

 

Surely by using these terms you're inadvertently making Evans sound appealing to impressionable fans of Gangsta Rap*.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

* I've heard sixty four year old Bishop's son, 'Westwood' use these terms in a positive and glorifying manner.

Edited October 20, 201411 yr by Youri McAnespie

Surely by using these terms you're inadvertently making Evans sound appealing to impressionable fans of Gangsta Rap*.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

* I've heard sixty four year old Bishop's son, 'Westwood' use these terms in a positive and glorifying manner.

To be fair, "fresh out of jail" isn't exactly "straight outta Compton"

To be fair, "fresh out of jail" isn't exactly "straight outta Compton"

Wways hippidy hop group Notreets With Alcohol?

Wways hippidy hop group Notreets With Alcohol?

 

 

I was thinking Gonzo and the Lemon Party had a ring to it

Edited October 20, 201411 yr by boltondiver

Meet Bert Wank...

 

http://www.linkedin.com/in/bertwank

 

Also from the States, Willie Wanker.

 

   http://kmlcorp.com/about.php

 

 

 From the same link as Bert Wank, my favourite, Randie Bumgardner.