Liverpool are awful

What's worst? Losing a FAC semi 5-0. Or losing on pens after coming back from 0-3 and having a last min goal disallowed?

This will take some getting over. 

Just now, Biggish Dave said:

Oh it would have been funny no doubt. I've absolutely nothing against it if it was used for what it was meant to be used for - clear and obvious.

If lines need drawing, it isn't clear or obvious

See, offside is the one thing I don't mind it for.

It's absolute and consistent- unlike many of the other things.

2 minutes ago, Underpants said:

What's worst? Losing a FAC semi 5-0. Or losing on pens after coming back from 0-3 and having a last min goal disallowed?

This will take some getting over. 

Losing 5-0. 

Gutted for them losing by a bloody toe nail off side decision. I suppose you have to accept that if it was off it was off but so unlucky all the same.

2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Losing 5-0. 

5-0 or Holdsworth skying the ball in the stands?

5 hours ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

Quality finish from Szomdics, that's the standard we hoped Charles was

Give over.

Another negative swipe at our players.

Peterborough paid £1m plus add-ons for Szmodics before selling him to Blackburn at a profit.

We paid just over £300k for Charles, nobody was expecting him to be Szmodics-standard.
Fuck all wrong with what we got for £300k.

Just now, Underpants said:

5-0 or Holdsworth skying the ball in the stands?

5-0. I’ve still not got over it. 

Asbestosis aside, how fucking bad is that view.

1 minute ago, Marc505 said:

Asbestosis aside, how fucking bad is that view.

It's terrible, they can see some of the game.

Just now, Traf said:

It's terrible, they can see some of the game.

Haha fair point

3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

5-0. I’ve still not got over it. 

Holdsworth for me. The 5-0 I was halfway down Wembley Way just after halftime. 

Leverkusen with another last minute equaliser

27 minutes ago, Traf said:

Give over.

Another negative swipe at our players.

Peterborough paid £1m plus add-ons for Szmodics before selling him to Blackburn at a profit.

We paid just over £300k for Charles, nobody was expecting him to be Szmodics-standard.
Fuck all wrong with what we got for £300k.

Ignore the Munich Cunt.

36 minutes ago, Underpants said:

What's worst? Losing a FAC semi 5-0. Or losing on pens after coming back from 0-3 and having a last min goal disallowed?

This will take some getting over. 

The reality has to be worse. 

Not affiliated to Coventry in the slightest but I'm gutted. Can't imagine going through that as a fan. 

With the one off the bar in extra time as well. 

Jammy red bastards. VAR shouldn't exist in situations where one side never plays with it. 

4 hours ago, jmjhb said:

You could say it's gone a bit Pears-shaped for Blackburn

Wonder if Joey Barton will comment on this

I know it’s the correct decision, but VAR is sucking the life out if the game. 

43 minutes ago, Underpants said:

What's worst? Losing a FAC semi 5-0. Or losing on pens after coming back from 0-3 and having a last min goal disallowed?

This will take some getting over. 

Feel for the lad who scored Coventrys winner, to have that feeling of glory and then have it ripped from your grasp.

4 hours ago, gonzo said:

Seen them given 

First one looked a pen 

Not sure about the others 

 

 

1 hour ago, Biggish Dave said:

Oh it would have been funny no doubt. I've absolutely nothing against it if it was used for what it was meant to be used for - clear and obvious.

If lines need drawing, it isn't clear or obvious

See I'm not sure if VAR is the issue or the offside rule is 

I think it's shite that the rule is that a cm of boot ahead means offside 

But if that's the rule then VAR has to double check everything because you can't expect the linesman to get it right every time if at all

In which case it's not about clear and obvious, it's just about checking everything 

Which is shite

Just now, Zico said:

See I'm not sure if VAR is the issue or the offside rule is 

I think it's shite that the rule is that a cm of boot ahead means offside 

But if that's the rule then VAR has to double check everything because you can't expect the linesman to get it right every time if at all

In which case it's not about clear and obvious, it's just about checking everything 

Which is shite

VAR isn't the issue.
The offside rule as such isn't the issue here, although that's far from perfect.

The problem is how VAR is being used.

Clear and obvious errors was the remit. A 50-odd year old bloke with a flag 30yds away from a player can't tell in a split second whether the striker is a toenail offside. 

Fuck VAR off and use some of the PL's millions to invest in better wages for match officials and make it more accessible/attractive to a younger fitter person to run the line.

5 minutes ago, Traf said:

VAR isn't the issue.
The offside rule as such isn't the issue here, although that's far from perfect.

The problem is how VAR is being used.

Clear and obvious errors was the remit. A 50-odd year old bloke with a flag 30yds away from a player can't tell in a split second whether the striker is a toenail offside. 

Fuck VAR off and use some of the PL's millions to invest in better wages for match officials and make it more accessible/attractive to a younger fitter person to run the line.

The refs are full time professionals these days 

The linesmen today were 35 and 38

Doesn't matter how young or how good their eyesight is, spitting a toenail at full speed from anywhere is near on impossible

If as a rule the margin for offside is so tight, then clear and obvious can never be the remit and they are going to have to double check everything if they want the correct decision to be made

 

Offside rule is an absolute mess. What ever happened to giving the forward benefit of doubt.

Automated offsides would have saved Cov going through all that.

Our stupid authorities opted out of it while most big leagues took it up.

 

20 minutes ago, Zico said:

See I'm not sure if VAR is the issue or the offside rule is 

I think it's shite that the rule is that a cm of boot ahead means offside 

But if that's the rule then VAR has to double check everything because you can't expect the linesman to get it right every time if at all

In which case it's not about clear and obvious, it's just about checking everything 

Which is shite

I'm sure people used to talk about there having to be 'daylight' between the defender and attacker in order for it to be deemed offside. Maybe the rule changed at some point, but it's more likely I was misunderstanding it. I didn't even know about the "goalkeeper+defender" OR "2 defenders" part of it until an incident last year when a defender was clearly playing someone onside, but the goalkeeper was miles out of his box, so it was disallowed anyway. Can't remember what match it was.

Does the "clear and obvious" bit apply to off-sides?

This line drawing business has always been employed, and checks every goal (certainly anything remotely close).