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Think you might have got the wrong end of the stick slightly Chief W. I went home last night(staying over for Preston away was what I was on about). I left home just before 7am yesterday and I was meant to get back to Reading for 11pm too catch the last bus but thanks to Cross Country trains I got back to Reading at 2am and had to pay £20 for a cab. So hence the rant, I have had enough of paying stupid money, travelling 100s of miles to watch a crap football team managed by an incompetent twat. [/quote

 

Fair enough, you got home which is good. I was truly not arsed about going yesterday but I did because it was no real mither, no way would I have gone from Reading. In answer to others who may or may not have been being ironic, yes it is what supporting your team is all about, but as most people in Bolton who claim to support Bolton don't actually go I'm giving Dan a bit of a pat on the back here

Massive Superfan points for the trip

 

Massive twatty points for the outburst like a spoilt brat

Not arguing with that, but there's plenty of twatty outbursts on here from folk who never go ever. I was trying to contextualise ( if that's even a word) !

At the moment, relegation seems certain. No goals, no defence, no leader. No sign of the much needed goal getter. Manager looks fed up. Players don't seem interested. Booing is creeping back from the moronic fans

 

Sad state we've become

At the moment, relegation seems certain. No goals, no defence, no leader. No sign of the much needed goal getter. Manager looks fed up. Players don't seem interested. Booing is creeping back from the moronic fans

 

Sad state we've become

A rousing speech there Mr Churchill.

Think you might have got the wrong end of the stick slightly Chief W. I went home last night(staying over for Preston away was what I was on about). I left home just before 7am yesterday and I was meant to get back to Reading for 11pm too catch the last bus but thanks to Cross Country trains I got back to Reading at 2am and had to pay £20 for a cab. So hence the rant, I have had enough of paying stupid money, travelling 100s of miles to watch a crap football team managed by an incompetent twat.

I'm intrigued. You think the manager is "incompetent" - what exactly is he doing wrong?

Could you explain, please, what mistakes Lennon is making, and how a different manager would avoid them? Withou granting the new manager magic powers, which is what most of you "special" folk do...

I'm intrigued. You think the manager is "incompetent" - what exactly is he doing wrong?

Could you explain, please, what mistakes Lennon is making, and how a different manager would avoid them? Withou granting the new manager magic powers, which is what most of you "special" folk do...

We have fuck all money, so whatever he signs has to add something, he signed 2 centre halves in the summer, one played right back on Saturday the other was on the bench.

 

Also on Saturday he set the team up well, when spearing got injured he had the option to bring Vela on to do the same, instead he moved the midfield round to get mavies on the pitch, we were never in the game from that point.

 

He keeps using Heskey, Saturday again he bought him on as a sub and gave Burnley the midfield to have as their own.

 

I do not want Lennon out, but the idea he is immune from criticism or mistakes is just not true.

Sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture (I know thats difficult when your losing regularly) yesterday I genuinely felt there wasnt much between the teams. I felt the performance was decent, we have players still bedding in, Casado, Wheater & Pratley (back from long term injury) Spearing coming back in from long term substitute service. I also think Lennon still searching for his best 11 some of that due to players being injured, yes we need a goal scorer but I do believe we have enough within the squad to pull out of this trouble, we need to start moving upwards soon and like Lennon I believe we can.

At the moment, relegation seems certain. No goals, no defence, no leader. No sign of the much needed goal getter. Manager looks fed up. Players don't seem interested. Booing is creeping back from the moronic fans

 

Sad state we've become

Luckily we've got folk like you to rouse the troops. Look, it's shit at the minute, even the most white-tinted fans get this. But it's not terminal, yet. Binning off Lennon surely isn't the answer, and in the cold light of day were we that bad yesterday? Disappointing, depressing and fucking frustrating yes, away days are grim at the moment, but let's get a bit of a grip. I'm worried, but not panicking yet, let's see how we do against Birmingham and Leeds and see where we are then

We have fuck all money, so whatever he signs has to add something, he signed 2 centre halves in the summer, one played right back on Saturday the other was on the bench.

 

Also on Saturday he set the team up well, when spearing got injured he had the option to bring Vela on to do the same, instead he moved the midfield round to get mavies on the pitch, we were never in the game from that point.

 

He keeps using Heskey, Saturday again he bought him on as a sub and gave Burnley the midfield to have as their own.

 

I do not want Lennon out, but the idea he is immune from criticism or mistakes is just not true.

I'm not saying he's immune from criticism - I'm merely questioning whether he's incompetent. And wondering how we'll get another manager who won't make any mistakes.

Many of my Burnley mates I met in the pub last night reckoned it was quite an even game. They said they thought we were better than a few other sides they have played. 

We have fuck all money, so whatever he signs has to add something, he signed 2 centre halves in the summer, one played right back on Saturday the other was on the bench.

 

Also on Saturday he set the team up well, when spearing got injured he had the option to bring Vela on to do the same, instead he moved the midfield round to get mavies on the pitch, we were never in the game from that point.

 

He keeps using Heskey, Saturday again he bought him on as a sub and gave Burnley the midfield to have as their own.

 

I do not want Lennon out, but the idea he is immune from criticism or mistakes is just not true.

This exactly - and that justifies Sober Dan's rant

 

I have ranted about NL but he is better than the dross before him and if he can get just enough to bring in a prolific goal scorer we will rise up this league

Let's see where we are after the next 4-5 games. Losing at Burnley wouldn't be such a problem if we hadn't tossed the point(s) away at MK & QPR.

I am 100% behind Neil Lennon, think he will have a very good career, and will be a success here.

 

He's made some daft decisions lately though.

I am 100% behind Neil Lennon, think he will have a very good career, and will be a success here.

 

He's made some daft decisions lately though.

 

 

out of interest, which do you consider daft

This exactly - and that justifies Sober Dan's rant

 

I have ranted about NL but he is better than the dross before him and if he can get just enough to bring in a prolific goal scorer we will rise up this league

 

theres 90 teams in the country looking for one of them

out of interest, which do you consider daft

Randomly dropping Prince, Pisano and Mark Davies. Bringing on Heskey instead of Clayton. Persisting with Neil Danns and freezing out Vela

Randomly dropping Prince, Pisano and Mark Davies. Bringing on Heskey instead of Clayton. Persisting with Neil Danns and freezing out Vela

I can understand some to a point:

 

Pisano looks like a pub player to me

 

Prince has made mistakes

 

Davies has hardly controlled games playing CM

 

Heskey has proven he can be a handful off the bench (not sure I always agree him rather than Clayton for impact though)

 

I just don't get the Danns / Vela thing though, I really don't

theres 90 teams in the country looking for one of them

 

92 - every team is always looking

Randomly dropping Prince, Pisano and Mark Davies. Bringing on Heskey instead of Clayton. Persisting with Neil Danns and freezing out Vela

 

Bringing that useless sack of shit on when we need a goal is akin to trying to put a fire out with petrol.  He's shit.  I know we're skint and all that but Heskey?

theres 90 teams in the country looking for one of them

We had one a plate, the powers that be decided that they wouldn't risk a few bob, short termism yet again, now were scratching around for one with similar money we could have signed one for, we reap what we sow.

I can understand some to a point:

 

Pisano looks like a pub player to me

 

Prince has made mistakes

 

Davies has hardly controlled games playing CM

 

Heskey has proven he can be a handful off the bench (not sure I always agree him rather than Clayton for impact though)

 

I just don't get the Danns / Vela thing though, I really don't

I do I don't think Velas good enough centre mid, I know I'm in the minority here but Lennon seems to feel the same, in fact I'd have a motivated Medo in front of Vela all day long.

We had one a plate, the powers that be decided that they wouldn't risk a few bob, short termism yet again, now were scratching around for one with similar money we could have signed one for, we reap what we sow.

I'm not our chairman's biggest fan, but if the money simply wasn't there, it wasn't there

I'm not our chairman's biggest fan, but if the money simply wasn't there, it wasn't there

You can't always choose the time when the right player becomes available sometimes you have to bite the bullet and have a vision, I don't really believe that the money couldn't have been found even if it was with a view to sacrificing a player or 2 elsewhere further down the line, unfortunately the current owner, chairman and whoever is bumming round the boardroom don't have any vision for the club, hence were on our arse bottom of the table, with no direction and can't even attract loanees. I hope ED loses whatever equity is left in the club he deserves fuck all.

You can't always choose the time when the right player becomes available sometimes you have to bite the bullet and have a vision, I don't really believe that the money couldn't have been found even if it was with a view to sacrificing a player or 2 elsewhere further down the line, unfortunately the current owner, chairman and whoever is bumming round the boardroom don't have any vision for the club, hence were on our arse bottom of the table, with no direction and can't even attract loanees. I hope ED loses whatever equity is left in the club he deserves fuck all.

You're missing the point mate, it might have been conditional; I.e. Literally no money there

 

Let's say Eddie won't give any more (we think that's true)

 

The bank won't (we think that's true)

 

Maybe we LITERALLY (in the true sense of the word) couldn't afford it, couldn't shift players to make the funds available etc?

 

If so....and this is all hypothetical but very possible, then it ain't owt to do with a lack of vision