is that it now game over no chance of POTUS

 

Rayguns out

10 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Well he's certainly not a Tory.

Run that through an AI app and see what he “has done so far” 

12 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

I know.

I also understand a lot of what has happened.

My problem comes from the old political adage 'if you are explaing, you're failing'

At the moment there are a lot of good things going through but not a coherent vision or strategy.

They're not even 'explaining'. The vast majority of the public aren't even aware any of this stuff is happening. It's a bit nuts really. Such poor comms.

43 minutes ago, Cheese said:

They're not even 'explaining'. The vast majority of the public aren't even aware any of this stuff is happening. It's a bit nuts really. Such poor comms.

I dont actually think is down to the comms team - they follow the narrative. There isnt one. 

Politics is all about vision. You have to coaleace an electable party around how you will make a country better.

Better is the touchword, Make America Great Again (nicked) was a vision. New Labour's 'Education, Education, Eduction' was a strategy. Whether you think its soundbites - they arent. They are strategies honed and then comms come in.

I still dont know what this Labour government wants to do this our country. Its a silent government - im not saying its not doing good - but they need to fight harder and be better at giving direction and I simply dont think Starmer is the PM to do that, much as i respect him as a person.

He's a manager and not a leader.

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2 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

I dont actually think is down to the comms team - they follow the narrative. There isnt one. 

Politics is all about vision. You have to coaleace an electable party around how you will make a country better.

Better is the touchword, Make America Great Again (nicked) was a vision. New Labour's 'Education, Education, Eduction' was a strategy. Whether you think its soundbites - they arent. They are strategies honed and then comms come in.

I still dont know what this Labour government wants to do this our country. Its a silent government - im not saying its not doing good - but they need to fight harder and be better at giving direction and I simply dont think Starmer is the PM to do that, much as i respect him as a person.

He's a manager and not a leader.

What's Farage's big vision?

6 minutes ago, Cheese said:

What's Farage's big vision?

To fill that void.

And everyone is making it easy for him.

He doesn't have a vision, other than to be against.

If Labour or the Consertives gave him nothing to butt against he'd be exposed as the posh southern wind bag he is.

The arrogance of him to be up in the North West telling people that the place is a dumping ground for immigrants forgetting all the shit economic austerity strategy which he still endorsed meant local councils sought money from anyway to still run basic services. Then these shitheads have the gall to turn up and tell us it's someone elses fault and blame someone who is even poorer than you are with no following idea how to make this small island more ecomically balanced, before he fucks off again to Downe.

Twat of the king highest order.

2 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

To fill that void.

And everyone is making it easy for him.

He doesn't have a vision, other than to be against.

If Labour or the Consertives gave him nothing to butt against he'd be exposed as the posh southern wind bag he is.

The arrogance of him to be up in the North West telling people that the place is a dumping ground for immigrants forgetting all the shit economic austerity strategy which he still endorsed meant local councils sought money from anyway to still run basic services. Then these shitheads have the gall to turn up and tell us it's someone elses fault and blame someone who is even poorer than you are with no following idea how to make this small island more ecomically balanced, before he fucks off again to Downe.

Twat of the king highest order.

Therefore your earlier comment that "Politics is all about vision" is incorrect. Farage simply appeals to racists and bigots who aren't really bothered about finer detail, and this country is chock full of those.

Just now, Cheese said:

Therefore your earlier comment that "Politics is all about vision" is incorrect. Farage simply appeals to racists and bigots who aren't really bothered about finer detail, and this country is chock full of those.

No its correct - read back.

3 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

No its correct - read back.

I have read back. It still reads as a contradiction that "Politics is all about vision", yet the whopper who is a shoe-in to be the next PM "doesn't have a vision".

2 hours ago, Cheese said:

I have read back. It still reads as a contradiction that "Politics is all about vision", yet the whopper who is a shoe-in to be the next PM "doesn't have a vision".

doesn't that not show why he's a terrible politician and potential PM, because he lacks the fundamentals, like a vision?

10 hours ago, royal white said:

I’ve not a clue where you’re sitting but you’re not seeing what you think you are.  I have supported The Don on some of the things he’s done well, there’s nothing wrong with that, and I’ve called him out on things he’s not done well. So calling me out over Iran is a bit silly. 
 

So the bloke who’s leading the party you voted for you now don’t want. Maybe it’s you who should be embarrassed, a few visionaries on here called it before the last election. 

It’s blatantly obvious you’re a fan of “The Don”. Your posts on here have made that clear. It’s not about what he’s done well or not so well. It’s the fact he’s a dangerous lunatic who is getting more erratic by the day. Surely you can finally accept the guys a loon & needs to go ? 
 

I voted for a change from SNP & for my local MP. Shes doing a good job so far.
 Voting isn’t as black & white as you’re making out… I may swing again the next time. Why should I be embarrassed about wanting a different leader for Labour ? Seems pretty normal tbh. 
 

Who did you vote for last time around?

I’d say it’s embarrassing when your reaction to a lunatic starting a pointless war & threatening genocide when things aren’t going his way, is to say ‘Whatabout Kier Starmer’.

 Our PM is a saint in comparison 

 

5 hours ago, Zico said:

doesn't that not show why he's a terrible politician and potential PM, because he lacks the fundamentals, like a vision?

Yes, but that's not what NiC said.

9 hours ago, Cheese said:

What's Farage's big vision?

Money & fame

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

Yes, but that's not what NiC said.

I dunno, maybe I'm missing something or not being literal enough, but this seems like a fairly straightforward exchange you had that in summary is "Farage is not in it for the politics"

 

"Politics is all about vision. You have to coaleace an electable party around how you will make a country better."

"What's Farage's big vision?"

"He doesn't have a vision"

"Farage simply appeals to racists and bigots who aren't really bothered about finer detail"

 

 

Why the fuck has Melania Trump suddenly “decided” to make a statement nobody asked for about Epstein?

Can only assume something is about to emerge.

Which would be a real shock wouldn’t it?

59 minutes ago, Spider said:

Why the fuck has Melania Trump suddenly “decided” to make a statement nobody asked for about Epstein?

Can only assume something is about to emerge.

Which would be a real shock wouldn’t it?

She’s saying she didn’t shag a rich old nonce?

Aye, that would be totally against all she stands for. 

2 hours ago, Spider said:

Why the fuck has Melania Trump suddenly “decided” to make a statement nobody asked for about Epstein?

Can only assume something is about to emerge.

Which would be a real shock wouldn’t it?

I suspect the same, otherwise, it's all very odd 

2 hours ago, Spider said:

Why the fuck has Melania Trump suddenly “decided” to make a statement nobody asked for about Epstein?

Can only assume something is about to emerge.

Which would be a real shock wouldn’t it?

Trump says he didn't know she was going to make a speech 

Spokesperson for Mrs Trump says he did 

It was later changed to he didn't know what she was going to talk about 

44 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said:

Trump says he didn't know she was going to make a speech 

Spokesperson for Mrs Trump says he did 

It was later changed to he didn't know what she was going to talk about 

Well it's a very rare slip from the Donster, he normally has such good control of every situation around him.

 

1 hour ago, DirtySanchez said:

Trump says he didn't give her permission to speak 

Spokesperson for Mrs Trump says he did 

It was later changed to he didn't know what she was going to talk about 

 

Amanda Ungaro is the reason why Melania gave that speech. She has given an interview to a Spanish paper and it will be out this weekend. 

36 minutes ago, Manchester_whites said:

Amanda Ungaro is the reason why Melania gave that speech. She has given an interview to a Spanish paper and it will be out this weekend. 

Here’s hoping 🤞 💣 

6 hours ago, Manchester_whites said:

Amanda Ungaro is the reason why Melania gave that speech. She has given an interview to a Spanish paper and it will be out this weekend. 

I've just been reading about this. Sounds like one hell of a headache for the Trumps if there's any substance to it. 

Imagine if THIS is what brings the whole house of cards down! 

Either way it's one hell of a story 😁

Are we sure they aren't now using the Epstein scandal to distract from the Iran debacle, which was to distract from the Epstein scandal?

10 hours ago, London Wanderer said:

It’s blatantly obvious you’re a fan of “The Don”. Your posts on here have made that clear. It’s not about what he’s done well or not so well. It’s the fact he’s a dangerous lunatic who is getting more erratic by the day. Surely you can finally accept the guys a loon & needs to go ? 
 

I voted for a change from SNP & for my local MP. Shes doing a good job so far.
 Voting isn’t as black & white as you’re making out… I may swing again the next time. Why should I be embarrassed about wanting a different leader for Labour ? Seems pretty normal tbh. 
 

Who did you vote for last time around?

I’d say it’s embarrassing when your reaction to a lunatic starting a pointless war & threatening genocide when things aren’t going his way, is to say ‘Whatabout Kier Starmer’.

 Our PM is a saint in comparison 

 

Supported/fan call it what you want, ive never denied it, he's done plenty of good things and plenty of bad. Pretty much the standard for most leaders. And yes hes a loon, but needs to go? Is that you questioning democracy now?
 

The posts I  made with Starmer were a tongue in cheek tweet and a reply to fromage who was questioning “thickos”, I thought it was only fair to bring in other “thickos” into the mix. You probably need to stop over thinking things cocker. 

14 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I've just been reading about this. Sounds like one hell of a headache for the Trumps if there's any substance to it. 

Imagine if THIS is what brings the whole house of cards down! 

Either way it's one hell of a story 😁

Amanda Ungaro was friends with Melania for 20 years so she will know everything. She is in Brazil now so hopefully she won’t fall out of a 20 floor window 🫣