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Politics

What is that "mate" of mine Sadiq Khan trying to achieve ?

 

You lost you demented little cretin, get over it and concentrate on your job you terrorist sympathiser.

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1 hour ago, peelyfeet said:

High credibility, transparent, non profit, with 0 fact check fails in 5 years???

You believe what you want son. When I see the word 'left' the axe comes down.

2 hours ago, bolty58 said:

You believe what you want son. When I see the word 'left' the blinkers comes down.

He is quoting the link you provided ! 
 

They support a fairer tax system hence being classed as Liberal but the link you provided shows they are a reliable source of accurate information. 

42 minutes ago, Ani said:

He is quoting the link you provided ! 
 

They support a fairer tax system hence being classed as Liberal but the link you provided shows they are a reliable source of accurate information. 

Well you rely on them then.

1 hour ago, Ani said:

He is quoting the link you provided ! 
 

They support a fairer tax system hence being classed as Liberal but the link you provided shows they are a reliable source of accurate information. 

Indeed.

As I said before, other sources will also claim similar.

We have lawyers-experts in their field- disagreeing on what is and isn't legal, and what/who exactly a law applies too or how it's applied. 

We've had climate scientists making things up to fit their ideas, damaging the overall push towards an environmentally sustainable future, with the nah sayers claiming man made global warming doesn't exist.

They will typically fall towards a side which fits their personal leanings.

As for the exact numbers that have left, no one will know exactly. Similarly, some that stay here have/will take their businesses away from the UK and into another country with more favourable tax systems.

Either way, it reduces the tax take.

8 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Like this?

https://www.cityam.com/more-than-10000-millionaires-have-left-britain-in-a-year-this-is-where-theyre-all-going/

We can all pick a report, based on research to back one view or another.

Strangely, both groups behind studies, seem to have some similarities in their world views (environment for example).

The ethos behind tax justice is very much along the lines of 'tax the fuck out of people with money', which fundamentally doesn't work once it gets too high.

That has been shown the world over.

The link I posted is an in depth analysis of Henley & Partners wealth migration report, which is what your article is quoting. 

15 hours ago, peelyfeet said:

The report that you’ve linked to is using data from last year. Mainly as a result of the actions taken by Jeremy Hunt. Rachel Reeves went further and is now reconsidering according to the FT. Bolty was talking about the current and future scenario. 
There are other reports.

https://www.ftadviser.com/international-advice/2025/6/3/at-least-10-of-non-doms-have-already-left-uk/

8 hours ago, bolty58 said:

Nice doesn't come into it. If you can't handle the heat and all that.

We saw a little of PMQ's live and thought she'd been out on a bender and came straight to work from there. The opposition parties will taste blood in the water and up the pressure now.

Can't handle the heat?

Like Truss who didn't show up or perhaps Johnson who hid in a fridge?

38 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

The report that you’ve linked to is using data from last year. Mainly as a result of the actions taken by Jeremy Hunt. Rachel Reeves went further and is now reconsidering according to the FT. Bolty was talking about the current and future scenario. 
There are other reports.

https://www.ftadviser.com/international-advice/2025/6/3/at-least-10-of-non-doms-have-already-left-uk/

My link is analysis of the Henley & Partners report. It basically says it's bolloxs and explains why.

2 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

My link is analysis of the Henley & Partners report. It basically says it's bolloxs and explains why.

Yes. For 2024. It’s basically an analysis of the abolishment of tax breaks that Hunt implemented in the March 2024 budget.

Rachel Reeves went further in October and introduced inheritance tax to the game. Current analysis shows that the ‘exudes’ has increased as a result of that. As I said, she is reconsidering that decision according to the FT and others. We shall see soon.
 

10 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Yes. For 2024. It’s basically an analysis of the abolishment of tax breaks that Hunt implemented in the March 2024 budget.

Rachel Reeves went further in October and introduced inheritance tax to the game. Current analysis shows that the ‘exudes’ has increased as a result of that. As I said, she is reconsidering that decision according to the FT and others. We shall see soon.
 

Its analysis of the report widely circulated throughout the media claiming that we'd lose lots of millionaires. Your "current anslysis" is another such report, based on analysis from the same organisation. Henley & Partners, who coincidentally sell "Golden Visas", enticing rich people to move.

 

Mind boggles.

45 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Can't handle the heat?

Like Truss who didn't show up or perhaps Johnson who hid in a fridge?

That's before you get started on The Don.

53 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

Its analysis of the report widely circulated throughout the media claiming that we'd lose lots of millionaires. Your "current anslysis" is another such report, based on analysis from the same organisation. Henley & Partners, who coincidentally sell "Golden Visas", enticing rich people to move.

 

Mind boggles.

This is from my link. There are many more. Are you saying Chris Walker is associated with Henley & Partners?

Again, the figures were for 2024. 

‘A report by former Treasury economist Chris Walker found the Labour administration’s decision to abolish non-dom status was based on “over-optimistic and incomplete” analysis from The University of Warwick.’

It was supposed to save money but it will in fact cost money. Hence why many economists expect her to reassess the rules on Non-doms.

Also just found this about ‘current analysis’

 

Edited by BobyBrno

Could work either way this RR crying thing. 

It'll either lead KS to conclude that she needs potting - or counter intuitively - mean she gets a bit of sympathy. Especially if she can battle through it and come out the other side.

People like seeing that their politicians are human beings, that's why they like Nigel Farage - and my first instinct was to hope she was OK. It could work in her favour (counterintuitively). And Kemi honing in on her might have done likewise. Brits hate a bully (in general and unless it's Donald Trump) 😁

She'll probably get sacked by 1pm now! 

7 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Could work either way this RR crying thing. 

It'll either lead KS to conclude that she needs potting - or counter intuitively - mean she gets a bit of sympathy. Especially if she can battle through it and come out the other side.

People like seeing that their politicians are human beings, that's why they like Nigel Farage - and my first instinct was to hope she was OK. It could work in her favour (counterintuitively). And Kemi honing in on her might have done likewise. Brits hate a bully (in general and unless it's Donald Trump) 😁

She'll probably get sacked by 1pm now! 

She won't get sacked. She might resign, but I doubt it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce375w2z6yyo

7 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

This is from my link. There are many more. Are you saying Chris Walker is associated with Henley & Partners?

Again, the figures were for 2024. 

‘A report by former Treasury economist Chris Walker found the Labour administration’s decision to abolish non-dom status was based on “over-optimistic and incomplete” analysis from The University of Warwick.’

It was supposed to save money but it will in fact cost money. Hence why many economists expect her to reassess the rules on Non-doms.

 

Its a retrospective review of the report by Henley & Partners, theyre analysing if what they said would happen, did actually happen.  Conclusion is it didn't.

 

Chris Walkers new analysis uses data from Henley & Partners.

Henley & Partners make profits from non doms relocating.

Its like getting a report on how bad Aldi is from a Lidl director.

Anyway...just seen that Diogo Jota has died aged 28. Left 3 kids. Life's to short to argue over our differing opinions.

Left 3 kids and a new wife.

 

How sad.

 

 

 

10 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Could work either way this RR crying thing. 

It'll either lead KS to conclude that she needs potting - or counter intuitively - mean she gets a bit of sympathy. Especially if she can battle through it and come out the other side.

People like seeing that their politicians are human beings, that's why they like Nigel Farage - and my first instinct was to hope she was OK. It could work in her favour (counterintuitively). And Kemi honing in on her might have done likewise. Brits hate a bully (in general and unless it's Donald Trump) 😁

She'll probably get sacked by 1pm now! 

I watched it live whilst having my lunch. The attack by Kemi was preconceived and under the circumstances, understandable. The ad-lib about her looking miserable was before the tears. They came after Starmer refused to confirm that her position was safe. That was my initial impression and also by many political analysts immediately after the incident. Obviously, since then, rumours of an altercation with Hoyle and personal issues have surfaced. 

31 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Could work either way this RR crying thing. 

It'll either lead KS to conclude that she needs potting - or counter intuitively - mean she gets a bit of sympathy. Especially if she can battle through it and come out the other side.

People like seeing that their politicians are human beings, that's why they like Nigel Farage - and my first instinct was to hope she was OK. It could work in her favour (counterintuitively). And Kemi honing in on her might have done likewise. Brits hate a bully (in general and unless it's Donald Trump) 😁

She'll probably get sacked by 1pm now! 

She didn't cry any tears of sympathy when she took the winter allowance off pensioners, screwed the farmers and fucked over small businesses with the NI increases, soft bitch 😢

16 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said:

She didn't cry any tears of sympathy when she took the winter allowance off pensioners, screwed the farmers and fucked over small businesses with the NI increases, soft bitch 😢

* Took winter allowances of pensioners whilst increasing other payments leaving them better off overall

* Asked farmers to pay the same taxes that all the rest of us have to pay (we wouldn't want a two tier system now would we)?

* Don't know enough about the NI contributions to comment

40 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

I watched it live whilst having my lunch. The attack by Kemi was preconceived and under the circumstances, understandable. The ad-lib about her looking miserable was before the tears. They came after Starmer refused to confirm that her position was safe. That was my initial impression and also by many political analysts immediately after the incident. Obviously, since then, rumours of an altercation with Hoyle and personal issues have surfaced. 

To be fair - I didn't see it live. The way it was edited when I saw it made Kemi look like she was just laying into someone at an inappropriate time. 

Might just be how the footage was out together though. 

I'd love to know the full story behind what happened. 

10 hours ago, bolty58 said:

It will be a long wait.

😁

4 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said:

She didn't cry any tears of sympathy when she took the winter allowance off pensioners, screwed the farmers and fucked over small businesses with the NI increases, 

put the mail back on its shelf

Just now, Casino said:

put the mail back on its shelf

😇

2 hours ago, kent_white said:

Could work either way this RR crying thing. 

It'll either lead KS to conclude that she needs potting - or counter intuitively - mean she gets a bit of sympathy. Especially if she can battle through it and come out the other side.

People like seeing that their politicians are human beings, that's why they like Nigel Farage - and my first instinct was to hope she was OK. It could work in her favour (counterintuitively). And Kemi honing in on her might have done likewise. Brits hate a bully (in general and unless it's Donald Trump) 😁

She'll probably get sacked by 1pm now! 

If she survives I'll eat my (marzipan) hat. No chance. Incompetent and they know it. They are laying the bullshit down now so she will be seen to have resigned based on personal issues rather than be seen to be potted by the Starmtrooper.

2 hours ago, peelyfeet said:

Anyway...just seen that Diogo Jota has died aged 28. Left 3 kids. Life's to short to argue over our differing opinions.

Left 3 kids and a new wife.

How sad.

Terrible news. Was he driving the Lamborghini or his brother?

2 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

If she survives I'll eat my (marzipan) hat. No chance. Incompetent and they know it. They are laying the bullshit down now so she will be seen to have resigned based on personal issues rather than be seen to be potted by the Starmtrooper.

I think she'll be very lucky to still be in the job in 12 months. 

And I think it might be more of a 'mutual consent' thing than a sacking. 

I do feel a bit for her. She's not working in isolation - she's part of a team and a cabinet. But it's one of those high profile roles where the buck stops with you. 

There are just so many variables with the economy. I sympathise with anybody in that position. I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole. 

 

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