Politics

[Escobarp]

Just now, Cheese said:

Welcome to reality as a 3rd Country.

 

Have you seen the one about raw sausages as well? 

[Mounts Kipper]

3 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Welcome to reality as a 3rd Country.

 

😂🤣😂

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Welcome to reality as a 3rd Country.

 

Presume you are taking the piss?

[Mounts Kipper]

4 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

The scene is set and if she succeeds in getting the go ahead for the referendum to take place then sadly she will Succeed. Everything with brexit etc just sets it up for her. It will be over 55% in favor of independence IMO.  
 

the problem Tories face is that if they reject it then it just seals the fate even more, an easy win for the SNP.
 

at some point, possibly in 4 years time, labour may well need the SNP to form a coalition to get into power and labour will not miss that chance. But by doing so they are signing the death warrant of of the union.  

Not sure how they can force a referendum, the longer it takes the less the clamour to leave. That’s my view, might be talking out of my backside. 

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

The scene is set and if she succeeds in getting the go ahead for the referendum to take place then sadly she will Succeed. Everything with brexit etc just sets it up for her. It will be over 55% in favor of independence IMO.  
 

the problem Tories face is that if they reject it then it just seals the fate even more, an easy win for the SNP.
 

at some point, possibly in 4 years time, labour may well need the SNP to form a coalition to get into power and labour will not miss that chance. But by doing so they are signing the death warrant of of the union.  

Ok, you live with this......what should Boris do?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Just now, Mounts Kipper said:

😂🤣😂

Really trying to make sense of that post.

Anyway, simple solution- make graters over here and sell them too.

FFS.

[Mounts Kipper]

2 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Presume you are taking the piss?

It’s horrendous news isn’t it. 😂

[Cheese]

 

2 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Presume you are taking the piss?

Not in the slightest. Have you ever heard the phrase "You don't know you're born"?

[Escobarp]

1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Not sure how they can force a referendum, the longer it takes the less the clamour to leave. That’s my view, might be talking out of my backside. 

It’s already being portrayed as taken out of the EU against the will Of Scotland and then if he refuses a ref then they will be being held in again against their will. I know some very educated and well to do people that have lost all sight of reality and reason and are foaming at the mouth. Billboards with slogans, paid for by the government, what England wants Scotland gets. 
 

its only going to get worse 

[Mounts Kipper]

3 minutes ago, Cheese said:

 

Not in the slightest. Have you ever heard the phrase "You don't know you're born"?

You need to try harder, even better call it a day. 

Edited December 29, 2020 by Mounts Kipper

[Mounts Kipper]

1 minute ago, Escobarp said:

It’s already being portrayed as taken out of the EU against the will Of Scotland and then if he refuses a ref then they will be being held in again against their will. I know some very educated and well to do people that have lost all sight of reality and reason and are foaming at the mouth. Billboards with slogans, paid for by the government, what England wants Scotland gets. 
 

its only going to get worse 

I’m of the opinion that we shouldn’t hold a nation prisoner against its will, sad if it happens but so be it. 

Edited December 29, 2020 by Mounts Kipper

[Cheese]

2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Really trying to make sense of that post.

Anyway, simple solution- make graters over here and sell them too.

FFS.

Ah. You haven't understood that those things are the very tip of the iceberg. You think I was making a point about regulations on grated cheese?

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Not sure how they can force a referendum, the longer it takes the less the clamour to leave. That’s my view, might be talking out of my backside. 

Parallels to the trade deal negotiations. Hold his nerve, keep saying no then see where the economy/country is at the next election, or offer up extra finance/investment etc to weaken voters' resolve.

Instinct says that covid and the recovery is paramount now- get vaccinating and help businesses back on track and things will get rosier.

[Escobarp]

3 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Ok, you live with this......what should Boris do?

Grant it. It’s the only way it stops it. By doing so the remain campaign (for want of a better term) can point to that as an indicator that the people are being listened to. 
 

I don’t want Scotland to leave the uk. Doing so ends my very happy stay up here in reality. But whilst it sounds counterintuitive the only way they stop it is by granting indyref2. 
 

the key is in the timing of such a referendum though. Agree it next year for 2023. Let things settle down post brexit. Maybe it can be stopped then with a remain vote. 

[Boby Brno]

8 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Welcome to reality as a 3rd Country.

 

There are millions of tweets posted every day. This is a forum about opinions. Imagine if everyone just posted links to tweets. Imagine if every tweet that you posted, someone posted another tweet in response. Imagine. Actually just stay on Twitter.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

Ah. You haven't understood that those things are the very tip of the iceberg. You think I was making a point about regulations on grated cheese?

In what way does it matter

As @Spideroutlined, it is over now. 

[Cheese]

5 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

You need to try harder, even better call it a day. 

I don't need to try at all. Reality is loud enough. I hope you enjoy being the 1st country in the world to erect peace-time trade barriers with their closest neighbour, who happens to be the largest trading bloc on the planet. I really do.

Edited December 29, 2020 by Cheese

[Cheese]

1 minute ago, boltondiver said:

In what way does it matter

As @Spideroutlined, it is over now. 

Why are you still posting here then?

[Guest]

1 minute ago, Escobarp said:

Grant it. It’s the only way it stops it. By doing so the remain campaign (for want of a better term) can point to that as an indicator that the people are being listened to. 
 

I don’t want Scotland to leave the uk. Doing so ends my very happy stay up here in reality. But whilst it sounds counterintuitive the only way they stop it is by granting indyref2. 
 

the key is in the timing of such a referendum though. Agree it next year for 2023. Let things settle down post brexit. Maybe it can be stopped then with a remain vote. 

Will she crap it?

I can’t see the EU letting them in.

They could have a shot at independence 

Yes, perhaps the best strategy

[Guest]

Just now, Cheese said:

Why are you still posting here then?

The real question is; why are you?

[Escobarp]

1 minute ago, Cheese said:

I don't need to try at all. Reality is loud enough. I hope you enjoy being the 1st country in the world to erect peace-time trade barriers with their closest neighbour, who happens to be the largest trading bloc on the planet. I really do.

What do you think about Scotland looking to do exactly the same thing with their biggest trading partner? Out of interest?

[Cheese]

2 minutes ago, Boby Brno said:

There are millions of tweets posted every day. This is a forum about opinions. Imagine if everyone just posted links to tweets. Imagine if every tweet that you posted, someone posted another tweet in response. Imagine. Actually just stay on Twitter.

Try ignoring the fact it's a tweet, and actually reading the information within it. It is information that has just been published by THE GOVERNMENT.

[Mounts Kipper]

2 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Grant it. It’s the only way it stops it. By doing so the remain campaign (for want of a better term) can point to that as an indicator that the people are being listened to. 
 

I don’t want Scotland to leave the uk. Doing so ends my very happy stay up here in reality. But whilst it sounds counterintuitive the only way they stop it is by granting indyref2. 
 

the key is in the timing of such a referendum though. Agree it next year for 2023. Let things settle down post brexit. Maybe it can be stopped then with a remain vote. 

Think the government have to dictate the timing on the referendum, now is not that time for a referendum.

[Mounts Kipper]

3 minutes ago, Cheese said:

I don't need to try at all. Reality is loud enough. I hope you enjoy being the 1st country in the world to erect peace-time trade barriers with their closest neighbour, who happens to be the largest trading bloc on the planet. I really do.

I’m sure we will be fine, a free trade deal is hardly the iron curtain. 

[Cheese]

1 minute ago, boltondiver said:

The real question is; why are you?

For the same reason you are.