Politics

[Escobarp]

Just now, Ani said:

Remember I have a block vote equivalent to 15 cabals. That is how it works. Sorry. 

Ah well no messing with you then. I thought we already had this sort of voting system in place anyway on here? It’s called casino. 😁

[Not in Crawley]

I like being British, calling myself European is an strange concept. I don't think we've ever got over that. Calling myself English, which I am, not sure. But being as broad northern as I am, I understand how accents can define a person.

 

[Escobarp]

12 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Has 'Lord Cheese Adonis' fucked off to bed, the fucking wet fanny fart.

Now now. That’s a personal insult 

[Mounts Kipper]

12 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Has 'Lord Cheese Adonis' fucked off to bed, the fucking wet fanny fart.

Hopefully, bollocks he comes out with. 

[Escobarp]

Beetlejuice beetlejuice beetlejuice 

[miamiwhite]

1 hour ago, London Wanderer said:

👍

I know for a lot of folk it would mean similar circumstances. Is your missus from up here? 

In regards to my line of work, working up here has been a big improvement on down south. Re the economy, I think it isn't much different to the fearmongering around Brexit. We wouldn't be much worse off and in the long run I can see things getting better with some consistency in government policy. 

It's shit that folk would feel the need to leave though. For that reason, it could be another toxic referendum and close to the heart for a lot of people. Maybe it is best left for the next generation. Under a different government then support might waiver. 

Have a read of that pal, decent report on the problems facing the economy in Scotland if Independence was voted for

 

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/oureconomy/snp-must-rethink-its-economic-model-independent-scotland/

[Ani]

26 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

Have a read of that pal, decent report on the problems facing the economy in Scotland if Independence was voted for

 

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/oureconomy/snp-must-rethink-its-economic-model-independent-scotland/

Project McFear. 😀😘😁

[bolty58]

Thanks to all the well wishers, especially those who would have been the most unexpected.

As I have always said, BWFC fans are an absolute minimum of 51% good in my book.

Moved enough to start 2021 with a clean slate. I'll try to be less grumpy cunt and more country gump.

[bolty58]

3 hours ago, Duck Egg said:

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In a generation the UK could be no more, which would be tragic imo.

..and will not happen so calm down. Evaluate the population of the UK and the opportunities to stay with England where the vast bulk of the population resides.

It won't happen for the same reason we all knew that a deal would be struck with the EU.

Project McFear indeed.

Edited December 30, 2020 by bolty58

[London Wanderer]

10 hours ago, miamiwhite said:

Have a read of that pal, decent report on the problems facing the economy in Scotland if Independence was voted for

 

https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/oureconomy/snp-must-rethink-its-economic-model-independent-scotland/

Cheers fella. Good report that.

Interesting at the end they say there is no reason to suggest Scotland couldn't flourish as an independent nation with the right plan on currency, economic model & transition.

They could likely lose if they don't change that model. Might be wrong, but I think it will be longer than we think before it comes around again.

[Escobarp]

11 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Cheers fella. Good report that.

Interesting at the end they say there is no reason to suggest Scotland couldn't flourish as an independent nation with the right plan on currency, economic model & transition.

They could likely lose if they don't change that model. Might be wrong, but I think it will be longer than we think before it comes around again.

Currency. Good point 

 

so krankie says she’s keeping the pound and not going euro. BoE have said no pound I think? EU have said it’s the euro. 
 

so who’s right IYO krankie or the other two? Cant both be right 

[miamiwhite]

23 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

Cheers fella. Good report that.

Interesting at the end they say there is no reason to suggest Scotland couldn't flourish as an independent nation with the right plan on currency, economic model & transition.

They could likely lose if they don't change that model. Might be wrong, but I think it will be longer than we think before it comes around again.

No worries mate.

Yes, they've got to change their own model without doubt. Now, as shown in the report is definitely not the correct time to try for the vote, they're definitely better until COVID is a distant memory.

[Escobarp]

Just now, miamiwhite said:

No worries mate.

Yes, they've got to change their own model without doubt. Now, as shown in the report is definitely not the correct time to try for the vote, they're definitely better until COVID is a distant memory.

But she’s not bothered. She’s singular in her aim and will stop at nothing to achieve it. 

[miamiwhite]

46 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

But she’s not bothered. She’s singular in her aim and will stop at nothing to achieve it. 

When she's destroyed the economy, her cult might just only realise then what a dangerous egotistical midget she really is.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

One labour mp just said he's not voting for it.

Keep them coming.

Starmer won't be happy. 

[Escobarp]

He said something earlier that was spot on. Along the lines of anyone voting no is wanting somebody elses vote to save them 

Very very true indeed 

[Duck Egg]

10 hours ago, bolty58 said:

..and will not happen so calm down. Evaluate the population of the UK and the opportunities to stay with England where the vast bulk of the population resides.

It won't happen for the same reason we all knew that a deal would be struck with the EU.

Project McFear indeed.

I hope you're right pal but you've not said anything there that persuades me.  Have you seen the latest pro independence stats from Scotland?

[Escobarp]

4 minutes ago, Duck Egg said:

I hope you're right pal but you've not said anything there that persuades me.  Have you seen the latest pro independence stats from Scotland?

Have you also seen the sample sizes and areas etc where those were undertaken?? 
 

you would be as well pitching up at the snp conference and doing a hands up 

 

In saying that support is definitely growing even a couple of my mates who voted no are now on the other side were a vote to happen 

[Duck Egg]

5 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Have you also seen the sample sizes and areas etc where those were undertaken?? 
 

you would be as well pitching up at the snp conference and doing a hands up 

 

In saying that support is definitely growing even a couple of my mates who voted no are now on the other side were a vote to happen 

I haven't and that's good to know.  It just seems from here, that the independence movement is growing in contrast to support for Labour disappearing.  The Tories have never been popular up there and the lack of serious opposition to be the UK govt is playing into Sturgeons hands. 

[Escobarp]

1 minute ago, Duck Egg said:

I haven't and that's good to know.  It just seems from here, that the independence movement is growing in contrast to support for Labour disappearing.  The Tories have never been popular up there and the lack of serious opposition to be the UK govt is playing into Sturgeons hands. 

100% agree with you. I’m just not one for polls. 

They are a single purpose party. They have one aim. Brexit and covid strangely enough have played into their hands. 

[Ani]

1 hour ago, Escobarp said:

He said something earlier that was spot on. Along the lines of anyone voting no is wanting somebody elses vote to save them 

Very very true indeed 

I was discussing this was a leftie mate of mine. He said ‘Labour need to show strong leadership and vote against the deal, especially now the ERG have said they will support it.’ 
 

He was not being ironic. 

[miamiwhite]

13 minutes ago, Ani said:

I was discussing this was a leftie mate of mine. He said ‘Labour need to show strong leadership and vote against the deal, especially now the ERG have said they will support it.’ 
 

He was not being ironic. 

You should stop going to those meetings with your friend 💣 💋 

[Ani]

32 minutes ago, miamiwhite said:

You should stop going to those meetings with your friend 💣 💋 

You would have been proud of me I sent 2 twitter links, dealt in FACTS, told him DYOR and then chucked out a BOOM !! 🙄🤣👍😇

[miamiwhite]

3 minutes ago, Ani said:

You would have been proud of me I sent 2 twitter links, dealt in FACTS, told him DYOR and then chucked out a BOOM !! 🙄🤣👍😇

Just standard mate 😄 

[Casino]

58 minutes ago, Ani said:

I was discussing this was a leftie mate of mine. He said ‘Labour need to show strong leadership and vote against the deal, especially now the ERG have said they will support it.’ 
 

He was not being ironic. 

Touched on this in a separate thread

Not easy for Labour this

I think only way forward for them is to the vote the deal through as by far the better of 2 shit options

They have to make it the Tory deal

Which, it very much is, of course

If it comes good, tories get re elected anyway, as they should, if it isn't, they're out on their ear for at least 2 terms