Escobarp Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: She should. Looks even worse on someone who has always claimed to be honest and upfront with the public throughout this pandemic. If we're living a culture where other ministers aren't resigning when breaking codes and committing other 'offences' then it's relevant. Not that it should be an excuse for her. She distances herself from westminister at every opportunity as do her cultish supporters. Why would Westminster become relevant all of a sudden to them other than to deflect? Cant have it both ways Quote
London Wanderer Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Not all of them no. They openly canvassed and approached people to ask them and then encouraged them to come forward. Just seems odd to me. But maybe they deemed it necessary given concerns about his behaviour? Who knows what has gone on in reality. But there have definitely been people trying to cover this up. That’s for sure If allegations had been made and there were concerns about his behaviour then openly approaching people seems fine (IMO). There's no proof that he did it. But 13 allegations is a lot and I find it hard to believe that all those women were lying or part of a wider conspiracy. Agree re the cover up. Quote
London Wanderer Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, Escobarp said: She distances herself from westminister at every opportunity as do her cultish supporters. Why would Westminster become relevant all of a sudden to them other than to deflect? Cant have it both ways I agree. Even more reason why she needs to resign. Quote
Escobarp Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 Just now, London Wanderer said: I agree. Even more reason why she needs to resign. I think she will refuse and vote of no confidence will be tabled by ruth d. And then if the greens bail sturgeon out that’s them fucked so I can’t see them doing that surely? Be suicide to back her after this? Quote
Escobarp Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: If allegations had been made and there were concerns about his behaviour then openly approaching people seems fine (IMO). There's no proof that he did it. But 13 allegations is a lot and I find it hard to believe that all those women were lying or part of a wider conspiracy. Agree re the cover up. I don’t believe for one minute he’s not done something wrong. You don’t get smoke without fire. If he has got away with sexually harassment or worse then it’s not good. But he won’t be the first or the last unfortunately Quote
London Wanderer Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Thank you pal, don't waste your time on him. He hasn't got a fucking clue. Just like when he was backing the wrong horse last year in BLM. Oh dear. Tough day? 😆 Quote
miamiwhite Posted March 18, 2021 Author Posted March 18, 2021 Just now, London Wanderer said: Oh dear. Tough day? 😆 Great day pal....yours is the tough one 😄 Re approaching folk....they were not allowed to do that once the police investigation had opened.....and that is exactly what the SNP did, major point you've overlooked here mate. All in the records for you to research at leisure . Quote
London Wanderer Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, miamiwhite said: Great day pal....yours is the tough one 😄 Re approaching folk....they were not allowed to do that once the police investigation had opened.....and that is exactly what the SNP did, major point you've overlooked here mate. All in the records for you to research at leisure . You know it has been a long day. Been enjoying costa del scotland weather though. Do I have to research? You know I'm shite with google, just send me the evidence Quote
Escobarp Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, London Wanderer said: You know it has been a long day. Been enjoying costa del scotland weather though. Do I have to research? You know I'm shite with google, just send me the evidence Edinburgh hottest place in the uk today I believe. And by a few degrees too? I got back here at 430 after being down south and it was 19.5 degrees on the car temp glorious. Quote
London Wanderer Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Edinburgh hottest place in the uk today I believe. And by a few degrees too? I got back here at 430 after being down south and it was 19.5 degrees on the car temp glorious. Didn't know that. Long may it continue. Quote
Escobarp Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 Small article now full report next week. Interesting that the government are focusing on the non snp committee members for their anger whilst neglecting to acknowledge the fact that at least one of their own has voted to say she misled the inquiry. Strange that really Quote
miamiwhite Posted March 18, 2021 Author Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, London Wanderer said: You know it has been a long day. Been enjoying costa del scotland weather though. Do I have to research? You know I'm shite with google, just send me the evidence Yes, i know you're shite with research but I'm no lapdog mate, research and find the truth into your leader, you will enjoy the Enlightenment, excuse the obvious pun🐟 🐠 🐑 💣 Quote
miamiwhite Posted March 18, 2021 Author Posted March 18, 2021 50 minutes ago, Escobarp said: Small article now full report next week. Interesting that the government are focusing on the non snp committee members for their anger whilst neglecting to acknowledge the fact that at least one of their own has voted to say she misled the inquiry. Strange that really I thought Andy Wightman swung it ? Quote
miamiwhite Posted March 18, 2021 Author Posted March 18, 2021 59 minutes ago, boltondiver said: Nothing on the BBC as yet.... Panorama programme was on at 8. Quote
Escobarp Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, miamiwhite said: I thought Andy Wightman swung it ? I just read that now. I didn’t know the exact make up of the committee. I thought it was 5 snp. But he’s ex Green Party isn’t he. Quote
miamiwhite Posted March 18, 2021 Author Posted March 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Escobarp said: I just read that now. I didn’t know the exact make up of the committee. I thought it was 5 snp. But he’s ex Green Party isn’t he. Yes. 4 v4 from party lines, then he was the floater. Surprising he voted against her for once but made the correct choice. Quote
Escobarp Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, miamiwhite said: Yes. 4 v4 from party lines, then he was the floater. Surprising he voted against her for once but made the correct choice. It’s a farce that anyone voted for her tbf from what I saw. They should now be looked into for being lying cunts too Quote
miamiwhite Posted March 18, 2021 Author Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Escobarp said: It’s a farce that anyone voted for her tbf from what I saw. They should now be looked into for being lying cunts too Definitely mate. She has at least been consistent throughout with her nonstop lies 😄 🤣 Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 2 hours ago, London Wanderer said: If people have been sexually harassed then shouldn't they be encouraged to come forward? I don't think it's strange at all. Only 1.7 % of reported rapes are prosecuted in court. Based on that the Salmon case outcome sounds about right. Do you think all 9 women were part of a conspiracy? You miss understand and should read miami's previous link to the affidavit. It does indeed claim that the women were "ecouraged" that's why I put it in inverted commas. Conspiracy may well be accurate. You also hint at him being guilty purely because not many others get found guilty. Quote
London Wanderer Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: You miss understand and should read miami's previous link to the affidavit. It does indeed claim that the women were "ecouraged" that's why I put it in inverted commas. Conspiracy may well be accurate. You also hint at him being guilty purely because not many others get found guilty. I mean he could well be completely innocent. But I'm more inclined to think he did something wrong and then they've asked more to come forward. It's the amount of women make the allegation that swings it. But I could be wrong. Anyway - it has clearly been made a shambles of. Edited March 18, 2021 by London Wanderer Quote
Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 Yet not guilty of any. If so many came forward, yet none successful perhaps that says something else? Its quite sad that you are judging him guilty on the basis of numbers despite being cleared. Perhaps that's what they wanted? Fwiw, he admitted that he behaved unprofessionally, and he maybe a tactile, but that doesn't mean he's an offender. Moreover, if he was, then the actions of the SNP have truly backfired. Quote
London Wanderer Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 30 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Yet not guilty of any. If so many came forward, yet none successful perhaps that says something else? Its quite sad that you are judging him guilty on the basis of numbers despite being cleared. Perhaps that's what they wanted? Fwiw, he admitted that he behaved unprofessionally, and he maybe a tactile, but that doesn't mean he's an offender. Moreover, if he was, then the actions of the SNP have truly backfired. It could say something else. I'm not judging him guilty anything, I don't know. I just said I'm inclined to think. Hearing the accounts of some of the women, & their experience of going to court, I found it hard to believe they were all fabricating the stories or part of a conspiracy. But that was a reaction on my part. Maybe it's the soppy lefty in me 😉 Could be completely wrong. Quote
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