Sweep Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Selling council houses and not building more was a ridiculous policy. I doubt you'll find anybody who disagrees with that. As pointed out above, the lack of house building over the past 30 years is a disgrace, and we can thanks both Conservative and Labour for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 31 minutes ago, royal white said: There’s loads of decent landlords, many who end up getting shafted for 1000s, money they know they will never see again. It’s a myth that all landlords are making loads of money on the back of vulnerable tenants Many decent landlords are getting shafted, because a UK government decided that it was a good idea to start paying housing benefit to the tenant rather than directly to the landlords to cover rent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 34 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Selling council houses and not building more was a ridiculous policy. It was but let’s not exacerbate the problem by allowing economic migrants to stay and I’ll argue that legal migration has been to high for to long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted August 11, 2023 Moderators Share Posted August 11, 2023 and i'll argue its a necessary evil who the fuck do you think is going to work to earn and pay the taxes to pay care and pensions for all us old fuckers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted August 11, 2023 Moderators Share Posted August 11, 2023 todays shocker, former environment minsiter didnt realise she had shares in shell worth over 70k she promises she wont do it agaion it stinks to high heaven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 19 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: It was but let’s not exacerbate the problem by allowing economic migrants to stay and I’ll argue that legal migration has been to high for to long. Sadly, we do need legal migration, and a lot more of it, if the forecasts are to believed. At present, we have vacancies that we just can't fill, and with an ever aging population, we're going to need somebody to work and pay the taxes, and we're not "producing" enough people ourselves UK natural population set to start to decline by 2025 | Financial Times (ft.com) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted August 11, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted August 11, 2023 Get the fuckers processed and working. Send the shady Albanians packing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, Spider said: Get the fuckers processed and working. Send the shady Albanians packing Yes to both, if only the Government actually wanted to..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Traf said: Many decent landlords are getting shafted, because a UK government decided that it was a good idea to start paying housing benefit to the tenant rather than directly to the landlords to cover rent. Led to us selling our rental. Absolutely screwed us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 1 hour ago, royal white said: There’s loads of decent landlords, many who end up getting shafted for 1000s, money they know they will never see again. It’s a myth that all landlords are making loads of money on the back of vulnerable tenants It is - mine is great but she's also pushed back on the letting agency who are constantly trying to get her to increase the rent. I also know of some absolute horror stories in London. As ever its a mixed bag, but renters do need more protection as well, and indeed its a nightmare for landlords who get a shitty tenet and it tales forver to get unclaimed rent money back and/or to get them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 50 minutes ago, Casino said: and i'll argue its a necessary evil who the fuck do you think is going to work to earn and pay the taxes to pay care and pensions for all us old fuckers To high for too long, not an end to immigration, it has to be controlled, the alternative is to continue at levels that we can’t absorb because we haven’t got the infrastructure required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Sweep said: Sadly, we do need legal migration, and a lot more of it, if the forecasts are to believed. At present, we have vacancies that we just can't fill, and with an ever aging population, we're going to need somebody to work and pay the taxes, and we're not "producing" enough people ourselves UK natural population set to start to decline by 2025 | Financial Times (ft.com) I never said no immigration. See my previous post. Edited August 11, 2023 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted August 11, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted August 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: To high for too long, not an end to immigration, it has to be controlled, the alternative is to continue at levels that we can’t absorb because we haven’t got the infrastructure required. Doubt anyone would argue in favour of uncontrolled immigration. At this point, it would just be nice if the Home Office did their fucking job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted August 11, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted August 11, 2023 23 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: To high for too long, not an end to immigration, it has to be controlled, the alternative is to continue at levels that we can’t absorb because we haven’t got the infrastructure required. We should leave the EU and take control of immigration. Seems the obvious thing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtySanchez Posted August 11, 2023 Members Share Posted August 11, 2023 2 hours ago, royal white said: Then every time there’s plans to build new houses we get the the protestors out complaining about new builds. Mentioned it last week, my old school teacher, ex Labour councillor, screaming on social media the we need new houses then then the other month he was at a demo trying to prevent new houses being built. All for new housing just not near them Especially when affordable housing gets mentioned or a HMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: All for new housing just not near them Especially when affordable housing gets mentioned or a HMO Indeed, nobody wants "affordable" housing near them, as generally housing associations buy them up and then move loads of scutters in One of the new estates they're building on the edge of our village was going to have some affordable housing on it, but the village busy bodies managed to complain to the right people, and not there isn't going to be any. The company building the houses, to get around it, are doubling up on the affordable housing element on one of their other build sites around Luton somewhere I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtySanchez Posted August 11, 2023 Members Share Posted August 11, 2023 17 minutes ago, Sweep said: Indeed, nobody wants "affordable" housing near them, as generally housing associations buy them up and then move loads of scutters in One of the new estates they're building on the edge of our village was going to have some affordable housing on it, but the village busy bodies managed to complain to the right people, and not there isn't going to be any. The company building the houses, to get around it, are doubling up on the affordable housing element on one of their other build sites around Luton somewhere I believe. Wouldn't have been due to the busy bodies complaining, it would need the developer to show that it would not be financially viable to do so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) What do we want? New affordable housing when do we want it? Never if its near me. And repeat Edited August 11, 2023 by royal white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtySanchez Posted August 11, 2023 Members Share Posted August 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, royal white said: What do we want? New affordable housing when do we want it? Never if its near me. And repeat It's amazing how many people reckon if they say they've seen great crested newts then it'll stop the whole thing, despite there being no water for over a mile away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 14 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: Wouldn't have been due to the busy bodies complaining, it would need the developer to show that it would not be financially viable to do so Fair enough, I do know they were on the original plans, the Parish Council asked us to write some letters (I couldn't be arsed) and then next thing, no more scutter homes. No matter what the reason, they're not being built here now, which is great news for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtySanchez Posted August 11, 2023 Members Share Posted August 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, Sweep said: Fair enough, I do know they were on the original plans, the Parish Council asked us to write some letters (I couldn't be arsed) and then next thing, no more scutter homes. No matter what the reason, they're not being built here now, which is great news for us If it was for less than 10 houses then there's no requirement to provide affordable housing but some developers do as a 'sweetener' Maybe the objections made them drop it in the hope that it would get through as councillors on planning committees are well known for making up spurious reasons Probably relatively cheap in Luton so shove them there and under the flight path to the airport Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 1 minute ago, DirtySanchez said: If it was for less than 10 houses then there's no requirement to provide affordable housing but some developers do as a 'sweetener' Maybe the objections made them drop it in the hope that it would get through as councillors on planning committees are well known for making up spurious reasons Probably relatively cheap in Luton so shove them there and under the flight path to the airport I think it was for 8 houses if I remember correctly... To be honest, they shouldn't be building anymore new houses here, the infrastructure just isn't there. Any new kids that come into the village, have fuck all chance of getting into the small school here. Still, I guess they have to be built somewhere, back to the old argument of "Let's build them......but not near me" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Spider said: We should leave the EU and take control of immigration. Seems the obvious thing to do. That'll never work, sounds a crazy plan to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, Sweep said: I think it was for 8 houses if I remember correctly... To be honest, they shouldn't be building anymore new houses here, the infrastructure just isn't there. Any new kids that come into the village, have fuck all chance of getting into the small school here. Still, I guess they have to be built somewhere, back to the old argument of "Let's build them......but not near me" Can they not just extend the school like they do elsewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, Sweep said: I think it was for 8 houses if I remember correctly... To be honest, they shouldn't be building anymore new houses here, the infrastructure just isn't there. Any new kids that come into the village, have fuck all chance of getting into the small school here. Still, I guess they have to be built somewhere, back to the old argument of "Let's build them......but not near me" Kids could go to school in London. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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