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Politics

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6 minutes ago, Zico said:

Ask some different questions then

Well that wouldn't fit the actual reason for the interview, which is that he has a book coming out.

A tax payer funded shill has been found out, bet nowt happens though.

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13 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Well that wouldn't fit the actual reason for the interview, which is that he has a book coming out.

A tax payer funded shill has been found out, bet nowt happens though.

Ask some different questions and at the end he can tell us about his new book

23 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

Well that wouldn't fit the actual reason for the interview, which is that he has a book coming out.

A tax payer funded shill has been found out, bet nowt happens though.

So the BBC, aren't as some dicks would claim, anti-Tory?

Who'd have thunk it

I see one of the more shameful episodes in our country's history is reaching some kind of conclusion.  Typically, even the 'compromise' is a shit show with our Govt and the US Govt both happy and the poor victims still feeling shafted.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c98ynejg4l5o

 

13 minutes ago, Duck Egg said:

I see one of the more shameful episodes in our country's history is reaching some kind of conclusion.  Typically, even the 'compromise' is a shit show with our Govt and the US Govt both happy and the poor victims still feeling shafted.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c98ynejg4l5o

 

I heard this earlier, must admit, and it may just be me, but I'm struggling to give a toss either way

It seems a mistake to me

Not least because Mauritius has no great claim to the islands either

2 hours ago, Sweep said:

I thought the BBC were all left wing?

They are. And channel 4. And after GMB’s performance, so are ITV. I think Bolty mentioned Sky were too. Plus the Guardian, the I, the Mirror, the Sun and the Times.

Anything that isn’t GB News and the Daily Mail.

16 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

It seems a mistake to me

Not least because Mauritius has no great claim to the islands either

They don't really but it was a pragmatic conclusion by all sides.

The fact this has been in discussion for several years and has been broadly agreed upon for quite some time seems to be lost on some trying to make a political point on the matter. 

To be fair, Channel 4, the Guardian, and the Mirror are consciously left-wing

I think in general, broadcast media leans left, print media leans right

3 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

They don't really but it was a pragmatic conclusion by all sides.

Well, except the Chagossians themselves

1 minute ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Well, except the Chagossians themselves

You make a good point but I don't think anyone gives a fuck.

It was a headache that has been resolved, I don't think there's too much to get worked up about especially as it has been worked on for god knows how many years.

7 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

To be fair, Channel 4, the Guardian, and the Mirror are consciously left-wing

I think in general, broadcast media leans left, print media leans right

Lefty Laura?

Sky News?

GB News?

TalkTV?

Alreet. 

1 hour ago, Duck Egg said:

I see one of the more shameful episodes in our country's history is reaching some kind of conclusion.  Typically, even the 'compromise' is a shit show with our Govt and the US Govt both happy and the poor victims still feeling shafted.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c98ynejg4l5o

 

It’ll be under water in 50 years.

4 minutes ago, RoadRunnerFan said:

Lefty Laura?

Sky News?

GB News?

TalkTV?

Alreet. 

leans, not is exclusively

4 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said:

It’ll be under water in 50 years.

A good point

What a perfectly normal country we live in. 🙃 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1k7w9mppw3o

Prince William was out and about the other day fundraising for Air Ambulances. Meanwhile, the Royals have recently ordered 2 new helicopters at our expense. Double-bubble! 👍

5 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

leans, not is exclusively

Which ones then?

MorningStarFM?

SocialistWorkerTV?

Beeb tends to swing to the government of the day. Think the left wing bias accusation is seriously overdone as part of a concerted effort to shift the Overton Window. 

3 hours ago, Winchester White said:

I think the only mistake was the BBC editors finding out.

Iiiiin one!!

17 minutes ago, RoadRunnerFan said:

Which ones then?

MorningStarFM?

SocialistWorkerTV?

Beeb tends to swing to the government of the day. Think the left wing bias accusation is seriously overdone as part of a concerted effort to shift the Overton Window. 

It's less about the channels and organisations and more about the presenters, journalists and the shows

The existence of GB News and TalkTV no more means the broadcast media doesn't, in general, lean left than the existence of the Guardian and the Mirror means print media doesn't, in general, lean right

3 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

It's less about the channels and organisations and more about the presenters, journalists and the shows

The existence of GB News and TalkTV no more means the broadcast media doesn't, in general, lean left than the existence of the Guardian and the Mirror means print media doesn't, in general, lean right

But the Guardian and Mirror are  outnumbered and outsold by the Mail, Express, Sun, Telegraph & Times which all lean right. 

I don't want to sound a bit Cheesy here but which broadcast media have a left leaning editorial slant to counter the examples I gave? Cos I can't see any.

1 minute ago, RoadRunnerFan said:

But the Guardian and Mirror are  outnumbered and outsold by the Mail, Express, Sun, Telegraph & Times which all lean right. 

Yes, they are

That is the point - it's not the number of organisations, it's the number of journalists, presenters, viewers, readers, listeners, etc.

I'm not making the claim that all in broadcast media lean to the left, or are even necessarily left-wing (socially liberal is probably more accurate), just the balance is tipped in that direction

It really isn't the controversial claim you seem to think it is

The BBC in general is doing a good job at being impartial because they generally are.

They have some bizarre ideas on how to achieve that however.

The likes of Bolty who thinks that are left wing needs to educate themselves on who runs it these days.

Their political programming has been heavily towards the right for years and years now but they did at least try to give the veneer of impartiality.

Laura K is just blatant, but strangely tied to Boris in some way.

5 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Yes, they are

That is the point - it's not the number of organisations, it's the number of journalists, presenters, viewers, readers, listeners, etc.

I'm not making the claim that all in broadcast media lean to the left, or are even necessarily left-wing (socially liberal is probably more accurate), just the balance is tipped in that direction

It really isn't the controversial claim you seem to think it is

I want proof

15 minutes ago, RoadRunnerFan said:

But the Guardian and Mirror are  outnumbered and outsold by the Mail, Express, Sun, Telegraph & Times which all lean right. 

I don't want to sound a bit Cheesy here but which broadcast media have a left leaning editorial slant to counter the examples I gave? Cos I can't see any.

Channel 4 News is probably the only one, and even that's debatable.

Anyway, proud to have a rational debate technique named in my honour. 🥰

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