Marc505 Posted February 5, 2019 Posted February 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, dazl1212 said: Bolton would need to inspire the younger generation. By winning and more reaching out. There are far too many United and Liverpool etc fans around the Bolton area. How many kids have been turned off watching Bolton recently for instance? There are but that's probably always been the case, first season back in PL 2001 I knew loads of people at college or their mates who weren't Bolton fans yet were going games or getting season tickets so they could see the likes of Owen and Beckham in the flesh but over time it grew because we got damn good. And I have to say, first season after relegation to championship and in league 1 we seemed to gain a shit load of youth following us everywhere so there's always hope.
HomerJay Posted February 5, 2019 Posted February 5, 2019 40 minutes ago, dazl1212 said: Bolton would need to inspire the younger generation. By winning and more reaching out. There are far too many United and Liverpool etc fans around the Bolton area. How many kids have been turned off watching Bolton recently for instance? bolton need to do nothing. parents need to get a grip.
bwfc2003 Posted February 5, 2019 Posted February 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, HomerJay said: bolton need to do nothing. parents need to get a grip. Is the correct answer
dazl1212 Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 9 hours ago, HomerJay said: bolton need to do nothing. parents need to get a grip. My kid, when its born in 6 months, is going to be indoctrinated from birth.
dazl1212 Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 10 hours ago, Marc505 said: There are but that's probably always been the case, first season back in PL 2001 I knew loads of people at college or their mates who weren't Bolton fans yet were going games or getting season tickets so they could see the likes of Owen and Beckham in the flesh but over time it grew because we got damn good. And I have to say, first season after relegation to championship and in league 1 we seemed to gain a shit load of youth following us everywhere so there's always hope. If the club can get back to the crowds we had in the prem under new owner, them we'd be doing ok. Look at Bournemouth, reasonably welathy owner, doing well and only get 11k a week so we don't exactly have a small attendance all considered.
radcliffe white Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, HomerJay said: bolton need to do nothing. parents need to get a grip. Just about clinging on my lad but it’s slowly wearing in a school where there’s about 5 bolton fans and 2 are teachers it’s tough, city gave free tickets for their cup game other week, he didn’t go like but for a young lad watch city or bolton no contest Edited February 6, 2019 by radcliffe white
Zico Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, dazl1212 said: If the club can get back to the crowds we had in the prem under new owner, them we'd be doing ok. Look at Bournemouth, reasonably welathy owner, doing well and only get 11k a week so we don't exactly have a small attendance all considered. there's plenty teams we could do as well as for crowds if we got back in - Bournemouth, Watford, Burnley, Huddersfield, Palace, Fulham
dazl1212 Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 1 minute ago, ZicoKelly said: there's plenty teams we could do as well as for crowds if we got back in - Bournemouth, Watford, Burnley, Huddersfield, Palace, Fulham Yep, hence my assertion that we would still be quite attractive to a potential buyer
Mounts Kipper Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: there's plenty teams we could do as well as for crowds if we got back in - Bournemouth, Watford, Burnley, Huddersfield, Palace, Fulham Crowds don’t matter if you are in premier league, it’s only outside of premier league they become important.
birch-chorley Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 I’m not sure crowds matter as much in the championship anymore Tge difference between 15k at £15 a head average and 25k at £15 a head average is £3m a year + a bit more spend on the day TV money at this level is something like £10m a year now isn’t it? £5m TV + £5m Premier League loyalty payment Of course it would help a lot but It’s not making a massive difference anyway. The big budgets in this league come in the shape of either parachute payments for the teams that come down or a wealthy owner chucking millions in. However, even with a wealthy owner, isn’t their a limit to how much they can chuck in a year as part of FFP?
Mounts Kipper Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: I’m not sure crowds matter as much in the championship anymore Tge difference between 15k at £15 a head average and 25k at £15 a head average is £3m a year + a bit more spend on the day TV money at this level is something like £10m a year now isn’t it? £5m TV + £5m Premier League loyalty payment Of course it would help a lot but It’s not making a massive difference anyway. The big budgets in this league come in the shape of either parachute payments for the teams that come down or a wealthy owner chucking millions in. However, even with a wealthy owner, isn’t their a limit to how much they can chuck in a year as part of FFP? If you’ve no parachute payment and no rich owner (BWFC) you need decent crowds to help you stay in the division, otherwise it’s a slippery slope.
Zico Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 13 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: I’m not sure crowds matter as much in the championship anymore Ken would certainly argue otherwise along with Leeds and Villa fans
Zico Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 also, saw yesterday Wigan had losses of £7.7M for year ending 2018 (league one) - compared to £4.3M the year before and the difference was mainly turnover down from 18.4M to 6.7M - due to no parachute payments it's tough out there
dazl1212 Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 TV money is the big driver but crowds will be important to any investor. Plus the overall fan base for things like shirt sales etc. That said I do hate all this big club small club crap as its used as a stick to beat clubs by some idiots.
radcliffe white Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 Clubs like us Wigan & Preston have benefited from large away followings in this league, come end of season I bet all 3 are in the top 5 for most visited.
kent_white Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: also, saw yesterday Wigan had losses of £7.7M for year ending 2018 (league one) - compared to £4.3M the year before and the difference was mainly turnover down from 18.4M to 6.7M - due to no parachute payments it's tough out there I propose joining forces and renaming the club Wigton
dazl1212 Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 37 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: Ken would certainly argue otherwise along with Leeds and Villa fans I hate fans like Leeds and Villa etc "Ohhh you battered us but we have more fans than you." yeah good for you.
waffer cup 07 Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 Piece in BEN re takeover bids, our Ken will be along shortly to dis lies and rip it to bits.
Casino Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, waffer cup 07 said: Piece in BEN re takeover bids, our Ken will be along shortly to dis lies and rip it to bits. its football club takeover for dummies and im not having it that hes written it
gonzo Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 11 hours ago, HomerJay said: bolton need to do nothing. parents need to get a grip. Mate it’s a bit more difficult than that. My eldest is the only bolton in his whole school. It was the forest match that properly turned him and he still loves coming for the day out. But that won’t last if home games stay as shit as they are. He’s already put the feelers out to see if he’s ‘allowed to like spurs’ as his prem team. Took the youngest the other week and he was bored to tears and says he doesn’t want to go back.
Flannel Truscott Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 1 hour ago, birch-chorley said: I’m not sure crowds matter as much in the championship anymore Tge difference between 15k at £15 a head average and 25k at £15 a head average is £3m a year + a bit more spend on the day TV money at this level is something like £10m a year now isn’t it? £5m TV + £5m Premier League loyalty payment Of course it would help a lot but It’s not making a massive difference anyway. The big budgets in this league come in the shape of either parachute payments for the teams that come down or a wealthy owner chucking millions in. However, even with a wealthy owner, isn’t their a limit to how much they can chuck in a year as part of FFP? So you wouldn't like a 30% increase in our budget?
radcliffe white Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, gonzo said: Mate it’s a bit more difficult than that. My eldest is the only bolton in his whole school. It was the forest match that properly turned him and he still loves coming for the day out. But that won’t last if home games stay as shit as they are. He’s already put the feelers out to see if he’s ‘allowed to like spurs’ as his prem team. Took the youngest the other week and he was bored to tears and says he doesn’t want to go back. Snap, lad was at a party Saturday I gets in from Sheffield first thing “ go on dad how many we get beat by”
frank_spencer Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 When I was at primary school I liked Liverpool and citeh as well as my dad's team. Once I got to high school and my individual tastes formed I went fully with the dad and grandad in supporting Bolton. It helped that this coincided with the Bruce Rioch era. My lad has no interest in football but he's 6 and autistic as fuck so that's no surprise.
Tonge moor green jacket Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 Frank; there's a lad in our road who is mega autistic, and he's a big fan and goes quite a bit, so there's hope for you! After we'd beaten Peterborough, he asked a copper if he could go on the pitch- what a guy!
emus wig Posted February 6, 2019 Posted February 6, 2019 2 hours ago, frank_spencer said: When I was at primary school I liked Liverpool and citeh as well as my dad's team. Once I got to high school and my individual tastes formed I went fully with the dad and grandad in supporting Bolton. It helped that this coincided with the Bruce Rioch era. My lad has no interest in football but he's 6 and autistic as fuck so that's no surprise.
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