It's happening. 

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/17405193.bolton-wanderers-close-to-takeover-from-uk-based-consortium/

Thank fuck

3 minutes ago, leadfrog1 said:

I'm not sure that's true. We'd have found a buyer eventually, maybe someone who could have taken the club forward, people forget that back then we were much more of a salable asset back then.

Anderson's just a businessmen who saw the opportunity to make a quick buck and got to the table before others had the chance. It takes time for seriously wealthy people, the sort that you'd need to run a football club, to go through all the checks and balances.

Anderson's entire business model for Bolton was to reduce costs and sell assets, thats how we've been getting by. 

BWFC were due in court to be liquated before Anderson stepped in that would have been the end no if buts or maybes, Gartside had spent years trying to find a buyer and came up with no one, Anderson (doesn't matter if you like or hate him) was the only game in town 

4 minutes ago, leadfrog1 said:

I'm not sure that's true. We'd have found a buyer eventually, maybe someone who could have taken the club forward, people forget that back then we were much more of a salable asset back then.

Anderson's just a businessmen who saw the opportunity to make a quick buck and got to the table before others had the chance. It takes time for seriously wealthy people, the sort that you'd need to run a football club, to go through all the checks and balances.

Anderson's entire business model for Bolton was to reduce costs and sell assets, thats how we've been getting by. 

There was no eventually. There was 5 minutes. 

ED had been trying to sell the club for 10 years, unsucessfully, and had given up financial investment.

We were done. Toast.

Holdsworths plan to buy had fallen through when his backer pulled out, and there was no-one else interested.

It doesn't matter whether you like Anderson or not, if he hadn't bought us in 2016 there would be no Bolton Wanderers.

Its as simple as that.

8 minutes ago, MalcolmW said:

Anderson may have thought he was buying 47% of the club, not 94%, at the time. Maybe he knew of Holdsworth's lack of funds and maybe he didn't at the point he got involved. Either way, without him we seem likely to have gone under back then.

Malcolm

How dare you accuse Ken Anderson of not being a leech from day one.

Get with the narrative, man.

14 minutes ago, leadfrog1 said:

I'm not sure that's true. We'd have found a buyer eventually, maybe someone who could have taken the club forward, people forget that back then we were much more of a salable asset back then.

Anderson's just a businessmen who saw the opportunity to make a quick buck and got to the table before others had the chance. It takes time for seriously wealthy people, the sort that you'd need to run a football club, to go through all the checks and balances.

Anderson's entire business model for Bolton was to reduce costs and sell assets, thats how we've been getting by. 

you are assuming a helluva lot...

facts, work with facts. or at least educated guesses.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3349655/Bolton-Wanderers-available-15m-owner-Eddie-Davies-targets-quick-exit-financially-crippled-club.html

 

Davies demanded that any buyer had £15 million to fund the club, why would he add that as a condition, if he was going to liquidate it. Plus there was talk of other bidders.

 

Anderson decided to buy Holdsworths shares knowing full well he couldn't run the club in the long term.

 

Plus trying to sell for 10 years do people remember this: 

 

https://lionofviennasuite.sbnation.com/2012/11/8/3617234/massive-investment-by-burnden-leisure-bolton-wanderers-transfers

 

7 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said:

It doesn't matter whether you like Anderson or not, if he hadn't bought us in 2016 there would be no Bolton Wanderers.

Its as simple as that.

 

8 minutes ago, tyldesley_white said:

BWFC were due in court to be liquated before Anderson stepped in that would have been the end no if buts or maybes, Gartside had spent years trying to find a buyer and came up with no one, Anderson (doesn't matter if you like or hate him) was the only game in town 

spare some credit for Deano and his pay day loan

8 hours ago, gonzo said:

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/17526317.bolton-west-mp-wades-into-wanderers-ownership-issue/

see this plays into my theory that a billionaire beckons (or at least that it'll be ok).. 

the noise from these types now , at this time ? They cant do nowt . poseurs.

why didnt they make these  kind of statements when davies stopped paying in 2015 ?

surprised they didnt photshop themselves into the crowd at scarborough and attach it to the bottom. 

 

 

Anderson may have been the only show in town.... still doesn’t excuse it if he’s raped and pillaged the club as he goes along.

1 minute ago, rochdale white said:

Anderson may have been the only show in town.... still doesn’t excuse it if he’s raped and pillaged the club as he goes along.

You're absolutely correct

But that definition suggests he's made millions and left us to die.

As things stand, he's made a lot of money (uncomfortable, but we live in a capitalist world), and he's still trying to get a buyer that can maybe turn things around.

Until this saga is over,  and all the numbers laid bare, we are simply making guesses - some much more educated than others.

If he's paid himself and his greasy cohorts a million or 2 in the last 4 years, and hands us over to a wealthier set up, I'm calling it even.

But the final chapter isn't finished yet.

Howard,

Nixon reckons there's no deal at the moment with 'mystery buyer' and nobody willing to do a deal on current terms. 

Are we still on with the deal with them? 

Do you think things might move quicker now Anderson etc. are back in the UK as Iles says??

5 minutes ago, rochdale white said:

Anderson may have been the only show in town.... still doesn’t excuse it if he’s raped and pillaged the club as he goes along.

Correct.

But you have to look at the two issues of 

a) buying the club

b) how he's run the club

as seperate issues.

Without the first, there simply isn't a club left to argue over.

and with b) I think he's acting the cunt at times.

1 minute ago, Spider said:

You're absolutely correct

But that definition suggests he's made millions and left us to die.

As things stand, he's made a lot of money (uncomfortable, but we live in a capitalist world), and he's still trying to get a buyer that can maybe turn things around.

Until this saga is over,  and all the numbers laid bare, we are simply making guesses - some much more educated than others.

If he's paid himself and his greasy cohorts a million or 2 in the last 4 years, and hands us over to a wealthier set up, I'm calling it even.

But the final chapter isn't finished yet.

And also remember good old Holdsworth, what the fuck did he make out of the club and what did he put in, I think the general felling  was quite a bit and fuck all  in that order

Howard - will the mystery buyer be attending the game on Saturday at QPR? And maybe yourself also?

To your knowledge, has the mystery buyer attended any other BWFC matches recently?

And do they have any emotional connections with BWFC?

Do you?

Look no one blames him for making money but for people to defend him like he's a victim is fucking retarded, he's full grown man, whos' spent the last few years sucking the club dry of assets to fund a gamble (his attempted sale)

i feel like we are going in circles.

what money has he taken that is out of the ordinary?

4 minutes ago, Spider said:

You're absolutely correct

But that definition suggests he's made millions and left us to die.

As things stand, he's made a lot of money (uncomfortable, but we live in a capitalist world), and he's still trying to get a buyer that can maybe turn things around.

Until this saga is over,  and all the numbers laid bare, we are simply making guesses - some much more educated than others.

If he's paid himself and his greasy cohorts a million or 2 in the last 4 years, and hands us over to a wealthier set up, I'm calling it even.

But the final chapter isn't finished yet.

I'm sure he has milked it as much as he can, and it's one thing telling FGR to fuck off and not pay up (meaning they may take us to court after KA has left), but it's another when he won't spend to pot PP and take us back down again 

We'll see

 

1 minute ago, HomerJay said:

i feel like we are going in circles.

what money has he taken that is out of the ordinary?

Probably the money he denied taking for so long 

4 minutes ago, leadfrog1 said:

Look no one blames him for making money but for people to defend him like he's a victim is fucking retarded, he's full grown man, whos' spent the last few years sucking the club dry of assets to fund a gamble (his attempted sale)

no one is defending him.

what I said was that if you remove the conjecture, guesswork and social media histrionics, nobody can say for sure what’s gone on since the last accounts were published.

be wary of anyone who does, because it’s impossible to know.

based on what we know, he’s taken a huge amount of money in consultancy fees, which he’s entitled to do, even if it is a bit on the high side considering the state of the clubs woes.

so he’s been a cunt mainly. But we need to see how it ends before deciding how much of a cunt. Innocent til proven otherwise etc..

Edited March 26, 20197 yr by Spider

8 minutes ago, leadfrog1 said:

Look no one blames him for making money but for people to defend him like he's a victim is fucking retarded, he's full grown man, whos' spent the last few years sucking the club dry of assets to fund a gamble (his attempted sale)

what has he sold?

8 minutes ago, leadfrog1 said:

Look no one blames him for making money but for people to defend him like he's a victim is fucking retarded, he's full grown man, whos' spent the last few years sucking the club dry of assets to fund a gamble (his attempted sale)

From what we know, A) He taken less then Holdsworth  B ) He's taken less then Amos C ) done more then the both of them combined to some how keep us going , the last one maybe have to wait a week or two

Do people forget that the probable reason Holdsworth's backers pulled out was because Anderson sold Zach Clough without informing the other shareholder. People thought at the time that this was done with the knowledge they'd pullout thus reducing the value of Holdsworth's asset meaning that he would have to go into liquidation meaning that Anderson could take full control of the club at a reduced cost. All we have is conjecture and guess work with a few facts thrown in because we've been lied to so often.  

 

1 minute ago, leadfrog1 said:

Do people forget that the probable reason Holdsworth's backers pulled out was because Anderson sold Zach Clough without informing the other shareholder. People thought at the time that this was done with the knowledge they'd pullout thus reducing the value of Holdsworth's asset meaning that he would have to go into liquidation meaning that Anderson could take full control of the club at a reduced cost. All we have is conjecture and guess work with a few facts thrown in because we've been lied to so often.  

 

Holdsworth's backers pulled out before KA got involved, that's why he turned to him - he had no other options. Deano was gone before Clough was sold.

4 minutes ago, leadfrog1 said:

Do people forget that the probable reason Holdsworth's backers pulled out was because Anderson sold Zach Clough without informing the other shareholder. People thought at the time that this was done with the knowledge they'd pullout thus reducing the value of Holdsworth's asset meaning that he would have to go into liquidation meaning that Anderson could take full control of the club at a reduced cost. All we have is conjecture and guess work with a few facts thrown in because we've been lied to so often.  

 

Leapfrog: are you for real?

you cant make up history

 

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/15078963.holdsworth-i-am-not-to-blame-for-zach-clough-exit-to-forest/ 

1 minute ago, leadfrog1 said:

Do people forget that the probable reason Holdsworth's backers pulled out was because Anderson sold Zach Clough without informing the other shareholder. People thought at the time that this was done with the knowledge they'd pullout thus reducing the value of Holdsworth's asset meaning that he would have to go into liquidation meaning that Anderson could take full control of the club at a reduced cost. All we have is conjecture and guess work with a few facts thrown in because we've been lied to so often.  

 

Yes, people have forget that. Mainly because people realise that time travel is impossible, so your conjecture is impossible.

Anderson stepped up when Holdsworths backers pulled out. They pulled out before Anderson/Holdsworth bought the club. They pulled out before Clough was sold. They pulled out hours before the club was due to be liquidated, leaving the club dead.

No one is defending Andersons actions after he took over the club, but do not try to re-write the narrative of how the club ended up in his hands.