Mental Health/Depression

[MancWanderer]

1 hour ago, Rudy said:

They should be banned. Having radiotherapy for melanoma isn’t something I’d wish on anyone 

Or their use should be severely restricted at least. I lost a pal in Ireland last year. The treatments for melanoma were horrific but it was the secondaries in the brain that got him

[Traf]

4 minutes ago, Youri McAnespie said:

Not bickering about Donald fucking Trump or Tommy fucking Robinson.

...what about the price of rice?

[Youri McAnespie]

2 minutes ago, Traf said:

...what about the price of rice?

Manchester Supermarkets - the old Kwiksave up Deane, cheap as rice.

Only 12% rat faeces too.

Be prepared to have vinegary 'kuffar' looks directed at you though, and Urdu verbal abuse.

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 hours ago, Morizio said:

Has anyone suggested supplementing the diet with vitamin D during this time of year?

No direct link has been found by medical scientists between vitamin D and mental health.

It is vital in immune responses however, and it may be that if you're well physically, then there's a reduced chance of mental health issues. That may purely be as a result of being able to undertake exercise or physical work which releases feel good hormones. 

 

[London Wanderer]

Folk moan a lot about some of the threads on here. But I think there are few places online where folk genuinely listen to other points of view. Yes not everyone on here does listen and few would dare admit it, but I've had my mind changed on numerous things. Even just understanding another point of view is important enough. Social media is the complete opposite & a far more toxic place than this.

It's only a shame more young folk won't join & the average age is 50 plus 😉

[London Wanderer]

On a separate note.

Everyone should take vitamin D from November to March. Highly recommended by the NHS.

It's cheap an all.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

7 minutes ago, London Wanderer said:

On a separate note.

Everyone should take vitamin D from November to March. Highly recommended by the NHS.

It's cheap an all.

Not been taking it this winter, but got the family on it during covid when there were no vaccines.

[Morizio]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

No direct link has been found by medical scientists between vitamin D and mental health.

It is vital in immune responses however, and it may be that if you're well physically, then there's a reduced chance of mental health issues. That may purely be as a result of being able to undertake exercise or physical work which releases feel good hormones. 

 

I find what you’ve posted interesting and provocative. 
 

Do you believe the findings of these ‘medical scientists’?

[RONNIE PHILLIPS]

11 hours ago, jayjayoghani said:

I'm from the school of thought changing something in your life that pisses you off before it becomes an issue.

Once it was living in England and the rut I was in albeit having a very comfortable life. So I moved abroad.

These days it's more my job which can be extremely stressful.  I've done 3 months at companies twice, and quit as I could see they were awful. Currently travelling around Oz in a campervan. 

Now I have worries about rejoining the ratrace 😆

Hi Priscilla 🤣🤣

[mickbrown]

It's a real eye opener that so many on here have these issues.

It's also great that people can talk openly about it.

A sign of the times. In a good way.

[gonzo]

2 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

There are rules at the top of the page. Rule 5.

Its not difficult. 
Some on here will take no notice. 
Many have left or don’t bother posting because of abuse. 
Some on here will take no notice.

It used to be the best forum in Bolton.

Its now down to a handful of people talking shite.

Such as whom?

Don't get any of this tbh. I also havent seen anyone bullied or abused and not give it back.

Its as busy as its been in years, thanks to regular posters new and old with varied opinions and life stories imo.

It is what it is.

Those that left couldnt handle people taking them on with differing views. Fair enough like, if you can't stand the heat...

Be a shame if Rudys gone, certainly hope not, hes sound and the place needs him. I personally havent seen abuse or bullying, only piss taking scepticism, just tell em to fuck off or fire summet back mate. Wouldn't be taking it to heart.

Anyways, this place does more good than it does harm. 

Handful of dicks talking shit? Your one of em bruno. Enjoy the ride.

 

[Leyther_Matt]

The fact that people consider this a safe enough place to open up about mental health (and god knows what else) is something that shouldn’t be underestimated in the slightest.

Although I do get nervous every time I walk in to a pub and hear “that’s LeytherMatt off WanderersWays” (happened twice yesterday alone!) 😂

[Youri McAnespie]

39 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Such as whom?Handful of dicks talking shit? Your one of em bruno. Enjoy the ride.

 

What the fuck has big Frank done to rattle your cage (or N'gotty)?

[royal white]

Loads of fukin poofters on here that need to man up 😉

[Ani]

4 minutes ago, royal white said:

Loads of fukin poofters on here that need to man up 😉

And be thankful we still have a club ?

Amazes me you can still get a reaction with that. 

[royal white]

1 minute ago, Ani said:

And be thankful we still have a club ?

Amazes me you can still get a reaction with that. 

😂😂 same folk every week 

[Ani]

52 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Such as whom?

Don't get any of this tbh. I also havent seen anyone bullied or abused and not give it back.

Its as busy as its been in years, thanks to regular posters new and old with varied opinions and life stories imo.

It is what it is.

Those that left couldnt handle people taking them on with differing views. Fair enough like, if you can't stand the heat...

Be a shame if Rudys gone, certainly hope not, hes sound and the place needs him. I personally havent seen abuse or bullying, only piss taking scepticism, just tell em to fuck off or fire summet back mate. Wouldn't be taking it to heart.

Anyways, this place does more good than it does harm. 

Handful of dicks talking shit? Your one of em bruno. Enjoy the ride.

 

I do think the odd thread gets out of hand , you will 5 or 6 people basically agreeing that another post is a knob because they have expressed another opinion.

TBF it does tend to get targeted at posters who are regulars themselves who will chip in when the boot is on the other foot.

I do remember when all the visionaries were on here dismissing the REMOANERS for daring to question Boris' integrity. Glad that has all stopped. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

3 hours ago, Morizio said:

I find what you’ve posted interesting and provocative. 
 

Do you believe the findings of these ‘medical scientists’?

Yes, why not?

It may change in time, but at the moment no direct link found.

I think a lot is known about the biological processes of the body, and more coming along all the time.

It's probably an anecdotal belief that vitamin D has this effect, but, as I said previously, more likely an indirect effect.

Also the case that sunshine produces serotonin which we know is key.

[only1swanny]

In October my mh got to a state that I couldn't manage, still habe nightmares about the toxic workplace I ended up in..  

 

So I upped and left, one day boxed up my stuff and never went back.  Doubt I'll teach again. A fellow WW poster helped me get an interview and I'm just driving a big van now. No stress easy as. I'm trying other pt work to subsidise the 16k pay cut I took. Sometimes it's just not worth it. 

Wife didn't get it, loads of opposition to me doing it amd initially wanted to just go back self employed but she wants the regular income. She's since admitted she's glad I stopped teaching. 

Got my class 2 hgv test next month. Its taken me since October as I told dvla that I have previous depression,  ill tell anyone now... don't tell them.. you have to be signed off by your doctor and its been 14 weeks so far!

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

3 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

In October my mh got to a state that I couldn't manage, still habe nightmares about the toxic workplace I ended up in..  

 

So I upped and left, one day boxed up my stuff and never went back.  Doubt I'll teach again. A fellow WW poster helped me get an interview and I'm just driving a big van now. No stress easy as. I'm trying other pt work to subsidise the 16k pay cut I took. Sometimes it's just not worth it. 

Wife didn't get it, loads of opposition to me doing it amd initially wanted to just go back self employed but she wants the regular income. She's since admitted she's glad I stopped teaching. 

Got my class 2 hgv test next month. Its taken me since October as I told dvla that I have previous depression,  ill tell anyone now... don't tell them.. you have to be signed off by your doctor and its been 14 weeks so far!

 

Had similar myself.

Obviously, after a seizure, you lose your licence for a year. Upon re applying for it a while back, they required me to have a special gp appointment, as I detailed mental health issue at the time.

Gp was unsure what he was supposed to do, so asked if I was OK, and ticked the boxes!

It's not worth keeping the information from the delay though- if something untoward happened whilst driving, then you really can be up shit creek.

[MancWanderer]

3 hours ago, mickbrown said:

It's a real eye opener that so many on here have these issues.

It's also great that people can talk openly about it.

A sign of the times. In a good way.

Indeed. The stigma of mental health issues is getting less and less. Slowly, but bits happening. Not that long ago virtually nobody would say anything whereas now (particularly on here) folk will talk openly about their issues, their meds and how they feel.

This place can get a bit antsy at times and there’s some snidey remarks thrown out but in the main the support offered is amazing. Folk on here will genuinely go out of their way to help others

I’m lucky. I know I am. I suffer no mental health problems and never have. I can be a bit withdrawn at times but that’s just me avoiding situations that I don’t like and it works for me

I think that it was Rudy in another thread that asked people to be nice. I made a comment once on a post on here and the poster sent me a DM to thank me. To me, my comment was nowt really, but to him/her it obviously meant a lot. It’s difficult to explain how happy that made me

Massive bunch of attention seeking puffs on here but there’s not one I wouldn’t sit down and have a pint and talk shit with. And I have with a few. And they are fantastic folk. From totally different entrenched views as well

Mancy, Mancy, Mancy, Mancy Wandererrrrrr x

[Morizio]

45 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Yes, why not?

It may change in time, but at the moment no direct link found.

I think a lot is known about the biological processes of the body, and more coming along all the time.

It's probably an anecdotal belief that vitamin D has this effect, but, as I said previously, more likely an indirect effect.

Also the case that sunshine produces serotonin which we know is key.

I’d be interested in you pointing me towards these findings. 

I just wonder though if you are playing on words, regarding direct link.

What I am aware of differs from what you’ve said, hence the provocative. 

[only1swanny]

3 minutes ago, Morizio said:

I’d be interested in you pointing me towards these findings. 

I just wonder though if you are playing on words, regarding direct link.

What I am aware of differs from what you’ve said, hence the provocative. 

I'd reckon the method of getting more vitamin D (Outside exercising or fresh air) is just as important 

[jules_darby]

20 hours ago, Winchester White said:

I went to my doctors years back as I was feeling very low. When I went in and sat down, he asked me what the problem was as usual. I just burst into tears and tried to explain whilst blubbering through it all.

They know if you need meds or not, if you feel low then go to your doctor. If you need them, fine and if not, great!

Mental health issues are really prevalent in my line of work, so I retain a psychologist who does mindfulness stuff and a lot on 1 to 1’s. It’s really good but often diagnosis is needed.

Not long ago one of our girls self diagnosed that she thought the reason she was struggling with certain things was that she had ADHD (we had a neurodiversity specialist in which is where she learnt about it). So anyway she goes to the docs and apparently the doctor told her the waiting list to get diagnosed properly and “in the system” is years, and just offered her some form of speed type meds instead and told her she was depressed.

She got the feeling that the doc was that busy she just wanted to tick a box and send her on her way.

I’m glad there seem to be many on here that appear to have had a better experience with medical professionals on MH matters 👍🏻

[MancWanderer]

24 minutes ago, Morizio said:

I’d be interested in you pointing me towards these findings. 

I just wonder though if you are playing on words, regarding direct link.

What I am aware of differs from what you’ve said, hence the provocative. 

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1365-2796.2008.02008.

Worth a look if you can be arsed trawling through a clinical study. It’s a very specific patient group. Skip to the discussion at the end

Looks like there “might” be a link but needs more research. It’s quite a well-put-together study but has limitations