Mental Health/Depression

[Not in Crawley]

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Be careful.

If I forget my sertraline in the morning, I too can feel "better" that day. Almost clearer in the mind.

Then the next day- bang!.

It has quite a long half life so don't always notice the drop off straight away.

 

Yeah, Mrs said the same thing, taken mine today.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

13 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Yeah, Mrs said the same thing, taken mine today.

Good.

Few weeks back, I'd not ordered my next not in time. By the time the quacks had sent the prescription to the chemist, I'd gone 4 or 5 days without. Starting to withdraw and felt shit.

Not recommended. 

The buzz from the win always helps of course!

[gonzo]

2 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Good.

Few weeks back, I'd not ordered my next not in time. By the time the quacks had sent the prescription to the chemist, I'd gone 4 or 5 days without. Starting to withdraw and felt shit.

Not recommended. 

The buzz from the win always helps of course!

Aye fucked mine up over xmas in lapland.

Full blown panic attack on morning we were leaving. Had to down two pints in airport to get me out of it.

[Youri McAnespie]

I have two recurring dreams for years - one I'm playing for Bolton and get put through one on one with only the 'keeper to put it past and I suddenly have the pace of Stephen Hawking. I reckon' I'm probably running in my sleep like a dog.

The second is I'm overseas and pull some stunning girl but have been drinking heavily, and need a leg up from some blues - but I can't find them...

 

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

39 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Aye fucked mine up over xmas in lapland.

Full blown panic attack on morning we were leaving. Had to down two pints in airport to get me out of it.

Jesus🤣

Last night's dream involved me driving a huge pick up truck belonging to someone I knew,  pulling a massive trailer going to an away match at Sunderland. 

He was that precious about me driving his truck (moaning in the back) that we set off too late to get there, so I ended up doing a multi point turn and drove it back home and fucked it all off.

Absolutely true, know idea why, but such way out things are regular.

[Escobarp]

3 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Good.

Few weeks back, I'd not ordered my next not in time. By the time the quacks had sent the prescription to the chemist, I'd gone 4 or 5 days without. Starting to withdraw and felt shit.

Not recommended. 

The buzz from the win always helps of course!

Said at the time when I came off pre-gablin in a very stupid ill thought out manner, i thought i was dying. Never been so out of it. Hallucinating cold sweats and wanted to jump off the nearest bridge. Horrific. 
 

 

[wanderer1984]

At what point does one feel the need for help? When I say help I mean medication.

I've always plowed through but at times think I need some sort of help but never take it further.

Just interested and looking for advice when to take that next step if needed.

84

[Escobarp]

6 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said:

At what point does one feel the need for help? When I say help I mean medication.

I've always plowed through but at times think I need some sort of help but never take it further.

Just interested and looking for advice when to take that next step if needed.

84

Go and speak to your gp never be afraid to ask for help but pills aren’t the only solution pal 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

4 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said:

At what point does one feel the need for help? When I say help I mean medication.

I've always plowed through but at times think I need some sort of help but never take it further.

Just interested and looking for advice when to take that next step if needed.

84

Perhaps you've just done it?

Ring your gp, and make an appointment. 

Ring samaritans or other charitable group if you want- no shame. 

I once rang a place in Bolton, when I hadn't slept for half a week. Sent a taxi for me, went to their place in the middle of the night, and chatted with a couple of guys for an hour or two. Then sent me home in another taxi.

Did I feel better immediately, probably not as I was exhausted, but was it a step along the way- probably. 

[Winchester White]

5 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said:

At what point does one feel the need for help? When I say help I mean medication.

I've always plowed through but at times think I need some sort of help but never take it further.

Just interested and looking for advice when to take that next step if needed.

84

I went to my doctors years back as I was feeling very low. When I went in and sat down, he asked me what the problem was as usual. I just burst into tears and tried to explain whilst blubbering through it all.

They know if you need meds or not, if you feel low then go to your doctor. If you need them, fine and if not, great!

[Tonge moor green jacket]

4 minutes ago, Winchester White said:

I went to my doctors years back as I was feeling very low. When I went in and sat down, he asked me what the problem was as usual. I just burst into tears and tried to explain whilst blubbering through it all.

They know if you need meds or not, if you feel low then go to your doctor. If you need them, fine and if not, great!

Yep, pretty much the same.

Rang my brother first who'd been through similar before. Rang the docs, and my brother came with me.

Sorted.

W84- this time of year is notorious for low mood in folk; nowt to be ashamed of, and as Esco said, there are lots of things to do: diet, exercise, counselling etc all can help.

Loads of us on here are fucked, so join the club!🤣

Pm someone too if you want.

[wanderer1984]

Thanks for your replies.

That's the thing. I'm not sure if I need them because I seem to cope without... just.

I've always tried to find solutions to my problems and sorted them quickly if I can. I can't pin point what triggers my misery... It comes and goes.

In my head I think it's just what everyone goes through.

[bolton_blondie]

Im so up and down at the moment its unbelievable. I can be happy and no worries then all of a sudden it hits me like a tonne of bricks. 

 

 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

3 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said:

Thanks for your replies.

That's the thing. I'm not sure if I need them because I seem to cope without... just.

I've always tried to find solutions to my problems and sorted them quickly if I can. I can't pin point what triggers my misery... It comes and goes.

In my head I think it's just what everyone goes through.

To an extent its true, many do.

Doesn't mean you can't seek help with it- I'm finding daylight makes a big difference (or lack of it). Sometimes a chat and some tests will help a doctor decide how to help you.

If ultimately a tablet helps even things out for you, then great. Remember these things are there to help you help yourself, and not control you. You're not failing in any way by feeling low, or thinking about help.

That is actually a good thing- part of you getting better.

Are you wed, or have someone close who you can talk with, and who can provide moral support should you go to your gp?

 

 

[Winchester White]

9 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said:

Thanks for your replies.

That's the thing. I'm not sure if I need them because I seem to cope without... just.

I've always tried to find solutions to my problems and sorted them quickly if I can. I can't pin point what triggers my misery... It comes and goes.

In my head I think it's just what everyone goes through.

Explain this to your doc and they will advise, they won't push meds if you don't want them. But don't discount them either, I have been on and off them for a long time. I always look to reduce when I can but they really do work for most people and are a massive help.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Took me a year to finally start taking sertraline- was scared at first and thought I'll manage without. Summer was OK, then the dark days returned and bugger fuck twat.

Got on them then.

[Escobarp]

29 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said:

Thanks for your replies.

That's the thing. I'm not sure if I need them because I seem to cope without... just.

I've always tried to find solutions to my problems and sorted them quickly if I can. I can't pin point what triggers my misery... It comes and goes.

In my head I think it's just what everyone goes through.

Stay away from the politics thread HTH

[Zico]

28 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said:

 

28 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said:

In my head I think it's just what everyone goes through.

My problem half the time is thinking I'm the only one going through it 

And occasionally i have conversations where i find out im not  

I'm not into talking or cognitive stuff though, i just know that won't make certain feelings go away

But in any case it's no good keeping it in your head 

I never considered myself depressed or down, i just couldn't control my anxiety when it occasionally boiled over, and i was in a vicious circle trying to quell it, in the wrong ways

I drank and smoked myself into oblivion before ending up at the doctor's, even then i just happened to mention i was always anxious and a prescription of citalopram later and i felt the best I've felt in years and never looked back 

 

[wanderer1984]

Just now, Escobarp said:

Stay away from the politics thread HTH

Unfortunately for some.. nothing winds me up on here 🙂 I've kept away from most things that seem to separate people on here. I've already been branded from past comments and that's fine.

I know what you mean though. That thread needs putting in the bin. Nothing will ever come good of it. Only petty points scoring that some seem to love.

[gonzo]

3 minutes ago, Zico said:

 

My problem half the time is thinking I'm the only one going through it 

And occasionally i have conversations where i find out im not  

I'm not into talking or cognitive stuff though, i just know that won't make certain feelings go away

But in any case it's no good keeping it in your head 

I never considered myself depressed or down, i just couldn't control my anxiety when it occasionally boiled over, and i was in a vicious circle trying to quell it, in the wrong ways

I drank and smoked myself into oblivion before ending up at the doctor's, even then i just happened to mention i was always anxious and a prescription of citalopram later and i felt the best I've felt in years and never looked back 

 

Exactly the same.

[London Wanderer]

35 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said:

Thanks for your replies.

That's the thing. I'm not sure if I need them because I seem to cope without... just.

I've always tried to find solutions to my problems and sorted them quickly if I can. I can't pin point what triggers my misery... It comes and goes.

In my head I think it's just what everyone goes through.

Counseling & therapy can often help. But your GP can advise that.

Really helped me pinpoint why I was getting anxiety & then feeling miserable. Behaviours that I thought were helping me cope were just making things worse. Having someone with that level of experience 'look in' really helped.

Tough months these though.. Like others say. S.A.D effects most folk to varying degrees. 

Hope you feel better soon.

 

[bolton_blondie]

I have anxiety about things I can't control. Peoples health and safety mainly. I think it's the lack of control I can't cope with. Grandparents are still really poorly and everyone thinks I'm being the strong one in the family when secretly inside i feel like im losing it. The pain sometimes is unbareable. 

[gonzo]

Dont be afraid of meds. They just stimulate a thing in your brain that creates the same chemicals as everyone else. Like having a jump start on your engine.

My biggest fear was feeling numb to stuff. Couldn't be further from reality. All they do is give your brain chance to be rational like eveyone else. Still flip and get angry or panic youve lost your keys or not deleted your messages. Still get depressed for 3 days after a session and still need a beer to sort your head out from time to time..all this is normal. Meds just allow you to deal with all that normally.

I tried all that therapy, Cbt stuff. Total waste of time for me. There was no amount of talking going to make my body make more serotonin and stop me be anxious or having panic attacks.

[Traf]

...not deleted your messages... 😉

[jayjayoghani]

I'm from the school of thought changing something in your life that pisses you off before it becomes an issue.

Once it was living in England and the rut I was in albeit having a very comfortable life. So I moved abroad.

These days it's more my job which can be extremely stressful.  I've done 3 months at companies twice, and quit as I could see they were awful. Currently travelling around Oz in a campervan. 

Now I have worries about rejoining the ratrace 😆