Moderators Casino Posted September 1, 2019 Moderators Share Posted September 1, 2019 https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/17769309.bolton-coach-lee-questions-decision-let-jack-earing-leave/ Youre doing all you can to keep the club afloat and one of your own goes public with his criticism I'm told PP and him haven't spoken since Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted September 1, 2019 Moderators Share Posted September 1, 2019 Or maybe it was after this one Who knows https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/17703087.bolton-wanderers-coach-david-lee-eyes-future-shot-at-the-top-job/ Tbh, it doesn't look over the top, but some context is important The manager is getting loads of stick and somebody he needs to trust is, at best, thoughtless in his comments Chuck in mcginlay, his mate, having regular pops, and it stinks, to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Compare to Jimmy Phillips who has wanted the top job a few times but has always knuckled down when overlooked. And was magnanimous in accepting need for a new man this time round. If Lee wants the job he should go somewhere and prove himself a manager. Not just hang round here and ask his friends to do his dirty work via the media. When I read that pitched as preferred bidders were announced I also thought it a disgrace. No time at all for him after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 41 minutes ago, Casino said: Or maybe it was after this one Who knows https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/17703087.bolton-wanderers-coach-david-lee-eyes-future-shot-at-the-top-job/ Tbh, it doesn't look over the top, but some context is important The manager is getting loads of stick and somebody he needs to trust is, at best, thoughtless in his comments Chuck in mcginlay, his mate, having regular pops, and it stinks, to me Fair comments but lee is long before and long after parky. He has come across as a good bloke who loves the club when I’ve met him. I think they are all fair gripes as he was frustrated as many others were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: Compare to Jimmy Phillips who has wanted the top job a few times but has always knuckled down when overlooked. And was magnanimous in accepting need for a new man this time round. If Lee wants the job he should go somewhere and prove himself a manager. Not just hang round here and ask his friends to do his dirty work via the media. When I read that pitched as preferred bidders were announced I also thought it a disgrace. No time at all for him after that. Again I feel this is a tad unfair. Bloke has been with us as a player and coach for nigh on 30 years. fwiw I’m a big fan of jimmy as well. Edited September 1, 2019 by tomski Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 1 minute ago, tomski said: Again I feel this is a tad unfair. Bloke has been with us as a player and coach for nigh on 30 years. fwiw I’m a big fan of jimmy as well. Being here 30 years....is that a good thing? Perhaps he should have proven himself elsewhere. Not a fan of Lee or McGinlay I’m afraid. Both have the mentality they are owed something by BWFC from what I’ve seen and heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burnden Posted September 1, 2019 Members Share Posted September 1, 2019 Lee was apparently very vocal in letting anyone who would listen that he wanted parkys job....not the done thing in our previous situation really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 His absence from the front line when all the other top bods in the academy were front and centre this season speaks volumes for how he's seen amongst the staff at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athywhite1958 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Casino said: https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/17769309.bolton-coach-lee-questions-decision-let-jack-earing-leave/ Youre doing all you can to keep the club afloat and one of your own goes public with his criticism I'm told PP and him haven't spoken since FWIW I work with Jack's mum and he was gutted when he left Bolton, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombwfc Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 56 minutes ago, Casino said: Or maybe it was after this one Who knows https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/17703087.bolton-wanderers-coach-david-lee-eyes-future-shot-at-the-top-job/ Tbh, it doesn't look over the top, but some context is important The manager is getting loads of stick and somebody he needs to trust is, at best, thoughtless in his comments Chuck in mcginlay, his mate, having regular pops, and it stinks, to me Which are all reasons I'd understand if Parky wasn't keen. But there doesn't seem to be a lot there to wish that somebody who seems from the outside to be doing job (and loves the club, been here decades etc. etc.) get the sack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 My boss knows that I want his job one day i’d probably be thought less of at work if I didn’t want to improve myself and enhance my career I’d much rather have folk hungry to get on as they generally deliver better results IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted September 1, 2019 Author Share Posted September 1, 2019 I’ve heard jimmy Phillips and David lee don’t quite get along .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mona Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, gonzo said: I’ve heard jimmy Phillips and David lee don’t quite get along .... If it came down to jimmy or dids being potted,I’d go for dids jimmy has always put his neck on the block 100 % wanderer does his job and conducts himself with total dignity and respect my absolute wanderers hero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrotter Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 55 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said: FWIW I work with Jack's mum and he was gutted when he left Bolton, Sure he was, and i liked him from the little I saw in our youth cup runs, but he's 20 yrs old and gone to a non-league side 3 tiers below us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondi Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 1 hour ago, gonzo said: I’ve heard jimmy Phillips and David lee don’t quite get along .... I've heard the same thing, think it was on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOWTUN BAKED Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 4 hours ago, Casino said: Loyal Give me a break 147 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Birch has nailed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 12 hours ago, Mona said: If it came down to jimmy or dids being potted,I’d go for dids jimmy has always put his neck on the block 100 % wanderer does his job and conducts himself with total dignity and respect my absolute wanderers hero I would pot both. Not exactly full of lads capable of playing pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, Big E said: I would pot both. Not exactly full of lads capable of playing pro If Hill could bring the bloke who ran Rochdale's youth setup Chris Beech that might be an idea. Brought through a lot of players they sold on for big money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, bwfcfan5 said: If Hill could bring the bloke who ran Rochdale's youth setup Chris Beech that might be an idea. Brought through a lot of players they sold on for big money. Hmmm heard some stuff about him I didn’t like, not happy replacing decent BWFC academy coaches/managers for someone who’s not BWFC through and through, would he do better job than David Lee? I doubt it, or are you thinking of him replacing phillips? No thanks. Edited September 2, 2019 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said: Hmmm heard some stuff about him I didn’t like, not happy replacing decent BWFC academy coaches/managers for someone who’s not BWFC through and through, would he do better job than David Lee? I doubt it. See I don't get this. We don't have to employ people just because they played for us. Which academy has been more successful? I would say huge questions about our youth development in the past two decades. Not saying it was a failure - you need a full context for that. But certainly in terms of output I don't think it has come close to what was expected of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 2, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted September 2, 2019 Two decades? During which time we spent much of it in the top flight. During which a number of players have still come through and gone on. They won't all be top level players but it doesn't matter if they've generated income. Having looked at casino's links, yes can see his point, but it would be a pointless interview if he can't express disappointment at one of his players, who he rated, being moved on. It seems there is some general disappointment at PP for not giving youth more of a chance, especially given the state of the team at the time, which may have left him frustrated. As for Phillips, iirc he once said he didn't want to be manager. Ultimately though, it comes down the Hill to organise his staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 10 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Two decades? During which time we spent much of it in the top flight. During which a number of players have still come through and gone on. They won't all be top level players but it doesn't matter if they've generated income. Having looked at casino's links, yes can see his point, but it would be a pointless interview if he can't express disappointment at one of his players, who he rated, being moved on. It seems there is some general disappointment at PP for not giving youth more of a chance, especially given the state of the team at the time, which may have left him frustrated. As for Phillips, iirc he once said he didn't want to be manager. Ultimately though, it comes down the Hill to organise his staff. Not all Phillips or Lee's fault. And I'd not condemn them without real facts and benchmarking. But my gut feel is we've not produced players that other clubs have managed. Not in numbers of quality terms. I might be wrong. Like I say you need some real benchmarking and analysis to tell exactly how well or otherwise it has performed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said: Hmmm heard some stuff about him I didn’t like, not happy replacing decent BWFC academy coaches/managers for someone who’s not BWFC through and through, would he do better job than David Lee? I doubt it, or are you thinking of him replacing phillips? No thanks. Hes not decent though is he. we produce the square root of fuck all. Also Jimmy / David not getting on means we should move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 26 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said: Not all Phillips or Lee's fault. And I'd not condemn them without real facts and benchmarking. But my gut feel is we've not produced players that other clubs have managed. Not in numbers of quality terms. I might be wrong. Like I say you need some real benchmarking and analysis to tell exactly how well or otherwise it has performed. I posted some stuff up a few months ago on this but no idea what thread it was in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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