Slow news day? The real deal? End of the world? 
 

They’re saying it probably came from an animal, has Somebody been shagging monkeys again? 

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

So long as any given vial does have enough for 6 then makes sense to use it.

Perhaps some are a little less willing if there isn't official authorisation, or if they're not aware of it. 

 

I'm not being funny, but its not rocket science

If any centre is chucking a 6th of each vial away questions need asking

1 minute ago, Casino said:

I'm not being funny, but its not rocket science

If any centre is chucking a 6th of each vial away questions need asking

I can't see that happening, if it is, then heads need to roll, but like i say, I really doubt that it's happening on a regular/consistent basis anywhere.

It's such a valuable vaccine, that I'd have thought they're counted out and counted back in again at the end of each day, with every single drop/dose accounted for, no way would they be allowed to have nigh on 17% wastage

8 minutes ago, Casino said:

I'm not being funny, but its not rocket science

If any centre is chucking a 6th of each vial away questions need asking

I agree. You know full well what regulations are like, especially in the medical profession. 

I've not heard whether or not the mhra (or whoever can make the decision) have approved it, nor if it is already standard practice.

If they are sold as 5 dose vials, at least we're not chucking away stuff that we've paid for, just the 'excess'. Still should be using it though.

7 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I can't see that happening, if it is, then heads need to roll, but like i say, I really doubt that it's happening on a regular/consistent basis anywhere.

It's such a valuable vaccine, that I'd have thought they're counted out and counted back in again at the end of each day, with every single drop/dose accounted for, no way would they be allowed to have nigh on 17% wastage

As I've highlighted, they're counted as 5 dose vials. So none of the 5 are wasted; but the excess fill needs to be utilised if there is enough for a 6th.

18 minutes ago, bolton_blondie said:

He will be reet. Paracetemol and fluids I've told him. Gonna lend him my pulseoximeter to check his spo2. He thinks I kill off my patients like the angel of death though so won't listen to anything I say. Daft sod. 

Check his Will first

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

As I've highlighted, they're counted as 5 dose vials. So none of the 5 are wasted; but the excess fill needs to be utilised if there is enough for a 6th.

I get that, but the vials will be filled using incredibly high precision machines that will be calibrated every single day. No way are they putting anywhere near enough "excess" vaccine in to leave sufficient after 5 doses to administer a 6th. That just sounds ridiculous. Of course there will be a +/- tolerance, but not knocking on for 20% I wouldn't have thought.

 

If people are getting 6 jabs out of a "5 jab" vial, then I'd look at who is giving the inoculations and test their eyesight, as they're probably underdosing

And I'm very sure they won't be able/allowed to make up a dose using the remnants from 3 or 4 different vials would they?

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10 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Check his Will first

Daddys girl. I'm gonna be fine 😂

13 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I get that, but the vials will be filled using incredibly high precision machines that will be calibrated every single day. No way are they putting anywhere near enough "excess" vaccine in to leave sufficient after 5 doses to administer a 6th. That just sounds ridiculous. Of course there will be a +/- tolerance, but not knocking on for 20% I wouldn't have thought.

 

If people are getting 6 jabs out of a "5 jab" vial, then I'd look at who is giving the inoculations and test their eyesight, as they're probably underdosing

And I'm very sure they won't be able/allowed to make up a does using the remnants from 3 or 4 different vials would they?

Agree with everything there. No way would they be sucking up dregs from separate vials.

However, its been observed from those doing the work, that there is indeed enough for a sixth dose. 

Esco put a link up which confirmed the European regulator has allowed them to get a sixth shot from them.

I too am amazed they're putting in some much extra. 

4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Agree with everything there. No way would they be sucking up dregs from separate vials.

However, its been observed from those doing the work, that there is indeed enough for a sixth dose. 

Esco put a link up which confirmed the European regulator has allowed them to get a sixth shot from them.

I too am amazed they're putting in some much extra. 

see i told you lot 

 

Useless media chump asks exactly the same question as a member of the public

1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

I agree. You know full well what regulations are like, especially in the medical profession. 

I've not heard whether or not the mhra (or whoever can make the decision) have approved it, nor if it is already standard practice.

If they are sold as 5 dose vials, at least we're not chucking away stuff that we've paid for, just the 'excess'. Still should be using it though.

Just had my daily q and a

Odd ones don't have enough for 6

Its probably sensible to say 5

So, I can call off the dogs.

 

We must be fucked if wheeling out Priti seems a good idea

Just now, Casino said:

Just had my daily q and a

Odd ones don't have enough for 6

Its probably sensible to say 5

So, I can call off the dogs.

 

Makes absolute sense.

Would put too much onus on those giving injections.

Do wonder why they top them up so much.

33 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Useless media chump asks exactly the same question as a member of the public

Understandable when she didn't answer the question

 

On another note, why didn't she listen when told to say G at the end of the word

Shes nearly as annoying as rayner

1 minute ago, Casino said:

Understandable when she didn't answer the question

 

On another note, why didn't she listen when told to say G at the end of the word

Shes nearly as annoying as rayner

I can't take her seriously anymore.

Thick as mince.

1 hour ago, Sweep said:

I get that, but the vials will be filled using incredibly high precision machines that will be calibrated every single day. No way are they putting anywhere near enough "excess" vaccine in to leave sufficient after 5 doses to administer a 6th. That just sounds ridiculous. Of course there will be a +/- tolerance, but not knocking on for 20% I wouldn't have thought

 

Ok

2 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

I can't take her seriously anymore.

Thick as mince.

Surprised you ever took her seriously

1 minute ago, mickbrown said:

I can't take her seriously anymore.

Thick as mince.

I dunno if she's thick or not and its not actually that important how she talks, but I just can't concentrate on the content

Like I said, nowhere near as bad as Raynes though

1 minute ago, boltondiver said:

Surprised you ever took her seriously

I have her the benefit of the doubt until that interview.

Now she'll be forever remembered as thick as pig shit.

1 minute ago, mickbrown said:

I have her the benefit of the doubt until that interview.

Now she'll be forever remembered as thick as pig shit.

Aah, hindsight

1 minute ago, boltondiver said:

Aah, hindsight

Not really. You'd expect cabinet ministers not to be thick. They might be amoral, repugnant fuckers, but you'd expect them to be intelligent at the very least.

Apparently not.

1 minute ago, mickbrown said:

Not really. You'd expect cabinet ministers not to be thick. They might be amoral, repugnant fuckers, but you'd expect them to be intelligent at the very least.

Apparently not.

 In Or Out Again

mickbrown replied to miamiwhite's topic in Behind The Stands

My favourite fuckwit of the lot isPriti . She’s ace she is. Be tough on the perpetrators of counter terrorism and look after the victims of counter terrorism. Genius that lass

45k infections each of last 2 days. Compared to 60k per day last week. 
 

Hopefully start of a trend. 

Meanwhile

The United Kingdom is setting up Temporary Morgues.

 

7 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

 In Or Out Again

mickbrown replied to miamiwhite's topic in Behind The Stands

My favourite fuckwit of the lot isPriti . She’s ace she is. Be tough on the perpetrators of counter terrorism and look after the victims of counter terrorism. Genius that lass

Exactly. The 'that' in the phrase 'that interview' I mentioned earlier, was referring to exactly that.

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