Slow news day? The real deal? End of the world? 
 

They’re saying it probably came from an animal, has Somebody been shagging monkeys again? 

Just now, ZicoKelly said:

It's always like that

 Not tomorrow 

1 minute ago, ZicoKelly said:

It's always like that

beat me to it! only busy boozer from what ive seen in kayed city

3 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

My understanding albeit I haven’t read anything about it is the wage guarantee is for businesses where they can’t open or were going to lay staff off due to lack of trade/income. Not just because someone is off sick or has taken time off to look after someone? Two different things surely? Maybe I’m thinking about it the wrong way 

I read it as it covers anyone who can't work for whatever reason

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51982005

The government is to pay the wages of employees unable to work due to the coronavrius pandemic in a radical move aimed at protecting people's jobs.

It will pay 80% of wages for employees unable to work due to the coronavirus pandemic, worth up to £2,500 a month.

Just now, Rudy’s Message said:

I interpret it as, say they need to lay off or reduce staffs hours by half for example, the government will pay 80% of the wages even if the money isn’t coming in the door.

Cant see it going beyond 3 months like 

That’s what I see it as.
But from what others are saying on here their interpretation is this is for folk off sick of looking after kids. That to me is covered by the company’s own sick pay policy. Which is upto them. 

I think there are going to be some disappointed folk if they think they are getting to take time off sick and get paid for an extended period courtesy of the public purse 

Yes - if businesses are struggling you will get 80% of your wage and the employer can top up if they can afford. It’s an amazing step and certainly welcome here after last week’s news. Means my other half should get her full pay for the next 6 months regardless. 
 

Oddly, my line manager called today and said firstly was I working (we were given a days holiday before all this started as we’d got in the top ten of UK workplaces in somewhere, wasn’t much paying attention) anyway, then sent a letter saying I’d got a pay rise!?!? Apparently all agreed back in Feb with leadership, but in the timing struck me as odd. Still, don’t feel very secure but better than I did 24 hours ago.

7 minutes ago, Rudy’s Message said:

I was in Westhoughton earlier. It was eerily quiet apart from Wetherspoons which was booming 

Will spoons close, don’t think it’s illegal not to shut down so I’m far from convinced They’ll shut. 

1 minute ago, Rudy’s Message said:

 Not tomorrow 

Wouldn't bet against it

Just now, ZicoKelly said:

I read it as it covers anyone who can't work for whatever reason

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51982005

The government is to pay the wages of employees unable to work due to the coronavrius pandemic in a radical move aimed at protecting people's jobs.

It will pay 80% of wages for employees unable to work due to the coronavirus pandemic, worth up to £2,500 a month.

Surely the key is protect peoples jobs. How would that fit into folk off sick? You’re off sick get stat sick pay. It’s only businesses that we’re going to lay people off or stuff I though.  Could be wrong but I honestly don’t think it covers sick 

Just now, Mounts Kipper said:

Will spoons close, don’t think it’s illegal not to shut down so I’m far from convinced They’ll shut. 

The coronavirus bill will make it illegal next week

6 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

This isn't an argument, but, deaths are the reason for everything

We must do what we can to avoid them

Hopefully talking about the numbers will help hammer home the severity of the situation

I find myself doing more each day to help and make sure everyone i know is ok

Stats like that are my driving force

The issue I'm talking about is people saying "Well x-thousand die of the flu every year" which is totally irrelevant, and minimises the severity of the situation. The problem is how many people are going to be hospitalized by this one - which we can't vaccinate against. It cannot be repeated enough.

Edited March 20, 20206 yr by Cheese

Just now, peelyfeet said:

The coronavirus bill will make it illegal next week

Correct and it also gives a serious amount of other powers that currently does exist but may be necessary to control folk as is deemed fit 

I read it as though if you as an employee had to isolate then you could get 80% of your wage. If you've 4 people in your family you could  claim you have to isolate for 14 days for each person which would be 8 weeks off at 80% wage.

I need to say that I'm not wired like that but if even a small % of employees are like that then a lot of companies could be fucked regardless.

Just now, Cheese said:

The issue I'm talking about is people saying "Well x-thousand die of the flu every year" which is totally irrelevant. The problem is how many people are going to be hospitalized by this one - which we can't vaccinate against. It cannot be repeated enough.

Sorry, thought you meant the England v Italy graph

Hopefully people see stuff like that and think twice about how it's more than flu, and not something to fuck about with

Owner of our business ccd me in email to our solicitors asking them if we’d be eligible for government hand outs, we have a dozen staff only 2 over 30k salary, well over a million pound of spare cash in the business he’s trousered millions over the last 25 years and we’re not yet running at a loss, so I hope government tell him to get to fuck. 

Edited March 20, 20206 yr by Mounts Kipper

If you can’t earn because you are forced home or your business can’t operate because they have been forced to shut (ie Theatre, live music) you get 80% of your wage regardless. It’s so there is not hundreds of thousands unemployed and no one to pick up the work when things return to normal. Being ill has got nothing to do with it.

1 minute ago, ZicoKelly said:

Sorry, thought you meant the England v Italy grap

I did in a way. A better graph would be "hospitalisations" rather than "deaths".

2 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Owner of our business ccd me in email to our solicitors asking them if we’d be eligible for government hand outs, we have a dozen staff only 2 over 30k salary, well over a million pound of spare cash in the business he’s trousered millions over the last 25 years so I hope government tell him to get to fuck. 

He will be eligible I would have thought, but why take on the debt if he doesn’t need to?

It is understood that the wage subsidy will apply to firms where bosses have already had to lay off workers due to the coronavirus, as long as they are brought back into the workforce and instead granted a leave of absence

 

what do I know 

8 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

That’s what I see it as.
But from what others are saying on here their interpretation is this is for folk off sick of looking after kids. That to me is covered by the company’s own sick pay policy. Which is upto them. 

I think there are going to be some disappointed folk if they think they are getting to take time off sick and get paid for an extended period courtesy of the public purse 

Yeah SSP covers sick or company’s sick pay policy, think you’re right. 

So mounts if you’ve laid folk off by the sounds of it they can come back and get 80% of their wages paid. But I’m only going off the bbc news website could be wrong. Most thjnk I am it would appear 

2 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

So mounts if you’ve laid folk off by the sounds of it they can come back and get 80% of their wages paid. But I’m only going off the bbc news website could be wrong. Most thjnk I am it would appear 

We’ve not laid anyone off yet, business dipped this week but not edge of a cliff just yet. Perhaps he’s looking at laying folk off if business declines further. 

Edited March 20, 20206 yr by Mounts Kipper

They dont need to go on sick, they say my Laura is showing symptoms so we have to isolate for 14 days. Then after 14 days my Darren is showing symptoms so we have to isolate. And so on.

I should add I would imagine hospitality  and retail are being treated differently as they are in essence now forced to close so would argue staff would need to go so triggering these payments. 
 

my employer can’t just claim for a portion of my wage that’s for sur e

1 minute ago, Mounts Kipper said:

We’ve not laid anyone off yet, business dipped this week but not edge of a cliff just yet. 

I will be absolutely amazed if you can claim anything as it stands. What he will need to do is put people on notice to leave in essence then go to government and say if you don’t give me 80% of their wages they’re gone. Then they will step in. Again just my reading of it 

It’s not that difficult. So, for example theatre’s are shut because the government said they had to, that means my other half can’t earn, no fault of hers of the company. The government will pay 80% of her wage, her company will top up the remaining 20% because they were going to pay her 50% of her salary from next month. It’s a commercial private company, that’s why this is unheard of.
 

It means we’re not homeless and there is a workforce in place when this is over.